President Donald J. Trump

[albrecht]

He'd need a whole government department just devoted to covering up his lifetime of crappy dealings. The latest is his breaking the longtime U.S. embargo on business dealings in Cuba, about 15-20 years ago, then covering it up.

I think Billary and those on that internet payroll thing are going down bad roads mentioning business deals and the sexual stuff considering the Clinton's long and sordid history. I understand it, there is nothing positive about her previous experience or policy decisions to promote, but still it just dredges up all the old stuff on them. From allowing the sale of tainted Arkansas' prisoners' blood (covered by the BBC and Canadian press since most of the infect people were there,) to futures markets, Tyson foods, questionable land deals, Wal-Mart, Sun-Diamond Growers, Park-0-Meter, all their convicted Asian "bundlers" (some of whom tried to flee in action worthy of an old Mr.Moto film,) Arkansas Development Finance Authority, and THEN we get to all the sexual shenanigans, alleged rapes, proven cheating (though in some areas if you are in a position of authority over an underling it is a sexual crime to engage in sex with them,) the Foundation(s) and nominal charities and university, and the "pay to play" scheme involving her illegal, unsecured private email server and also the DNC corruption against Bernie and also some more "pay to play."
ps: I'm sure there is so much more I'm forgetting but the decades of curious and questionable incidents one can't be expected to remember all the players, charges, investigations, and incidents. Some might "reappear," as infamous documents tend to do with the Clintons after they disappear (stolen or deleted) if it is in their favor to do so.

[GravitySucks]

I think Billary and those on that internet payroll thing are going down bad roads mentioning business deals and the sexual stuff considering the Clinton's long and sordid history. I understand it, there is nothing positive about her previous experience or policy decisions to promote, but still it just dredges up all the old stuff on them. From allowing the sale of tainted Arkansas' prisoners' blood (covered by the BBC and Canadian press since most of the infect people were there,) to futures markets, Tyson foods, questionable land deals, Wal-Mart, Sun-Diamond Growers, Park-0-Meter, all their convicted Asian "bundlers" (some of whom tried to flee in action worthy of an old Mr.Moto film,) Arkansas Development Finance Authority, and THEN we get to all the sexual shenanigans, alleged rapes, proven cheating (though in some areas if you are in a position of authority over an underling it is a sexual crime to engage in sex with them,) the Foundation(s) and nominal charities and university, and the "pay to play" scheme involving her illegal, unsecured private email server and also the DNC corruption against Bernie and also some more "pay to play."
ps: I'm sure there is so much more I'm forgetting but the decades of curious and questionable incidents one can't be expected to remember all the players, charges, investigations, and incidents. Some might "reappear," as infamous documents tend to do with the Clintons after they disappear (stolen or deleted) if it is in their favor to do so.

This is a link to a white paper that the Obama campaign circulated in 2008 documenting the Clinton's ties to Indian (dot) business interests and quotes to where she called herself the "Senator from Punjab". And you wonder why the Clinton foundation used waterdowned AIDS drugs,  manufactured in India, and distributed in Africa. From a company that was banned from selling these same water-downed drugs in the US.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/memo1.pdf

[GravitySucks]

https://youtu.be/64xoDyethW8

[21st Century Man]

https://youtu.be/64xoDyethW8

Love it!!!   Some idiot took one of my Romney signs during the last election but luckily I had a replacement.  No signs for me this go round as I'm just not enthused but I'd like to boobytrap a sign next time I have the urge to put one up.

[FightTheFuture]

I always wondered why he didn't just appear and scare the bejeezus out of Caesar. The savings as far as martyrdom would have been substantial, and the spread of the religion much easier.

Fair question. I suppose such a vulgar display of power would only frighten people and turn them against God.  You have free will to follow the teachings of Christ...or not. It`s entirely up to you.

[albrecht]

Fair question. I suppose such a vulgar display of power would only frighten people and turn them against God.  You have free will to follow the teachings of Christ...or not. It`s entirely up to you.

Really? Actually lots of debate about that historically. Not weighing on opinions but crazy that someone wouldnt know. The most of which, in modern era, were between Reformation and various denominations.

[GravitySucks]

Really? Actually lots of debate about that historically. Not weighing on opinions but crazy that someone wouldnt knows so much. The most of which, in modern era, were between Reformation and various denominations.

This is a good book. Excellent chapter on how the apostles went from being cowards in the upper room to being evangelists that were willing to go through gruesome executions (mostly crucifixions themselves) to be evangelists for the gospel and early church.

The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. Read the description. He was an aetheist and investigative reporter for the Chicago Sun Times that set out to prove Christianity was BS. He ended up convincing himself he was wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Journalists-Personal-Investigation/dp/0310339308

[albrecht]

This is a good book. Excellent chapter on how the apostles went from being cowards in the upper room to being evangelists that were willing to go through gruesome executions (mostly crucifixions themselves) to be evangelists for the gospel and early church.

The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. Read the description. He was an aetheist and investigative reporter for the Chicago Sun Times that set out to prove Christianity was BS. He ended up convincing himself he was wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Journalists-Personal-Investigation/dp/0310339308

Thanks will check out for good stuff.. Now we getting good with giants n atlantis in Appalachia.

[136 or 142]

They weren't candidates, they were political observers. You know, pundits. Seeing the opportunity wasn't a big deal because without the right candidate to push people's buttons, it's all academic anyway.

And, I'll admit, Trump is very good at pushing this crowd's buttons. Meanwhile, they are thrilled that such a bigwig is noticing them.

Oh.  I don't know of any pundits who noticed this new Republican voting block either before Trump came along.  It's possible that a few pundits speculated after Santorum's surprisingly relatively successful 2012 Presidential Primary  campaign that a pro-labor (or non anti labor) Republican who was opposed to free trade,  immigration like Santorum but without the far right social conservative focus might do well, but I don't know of any pundits who followed up on that in any way, and I don't know of any pundits who predicted before the start of the 2016 Republican Presidential Primary that any prospective Republican candidate who might come fairly close to that profile would do well. The names nearly all pundits through out as the likeliest to be nominated were Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and Scott Walker with Ted Cruz in a fairly distant forth. 

The additional incoherent point about Trump that is sort of a main thing with many of his idiot supporters is his generally anti neo conservative foreign policy outlook.  (Incoherent because he combines it with some sort of plan to quickly 'wipe out' ISIL and also wants to increase military spending), but he has also campaigned against other neo-conservative policy positions.  I can't remember what Santorum's foreign policy views were in the 2012 campaign, or if he even had any foreign policy views.

However, all of the names I mentioned above of those the pundits (and most Republican officials and other insiders) predicted as the most likely Republican Presidential nominee, with maybe the exception of Scott Walker whose foreign policy positions I also can't remember, are all neo-conservatives.

The only anti neo-conservative in the race taken seriously by the pundits initially (though not to the point that they thought that he had a realistic shot at winning the nomination) was Rand Paul, and even he backed away from a strict isolationist libertarian foreign policy in the hopes of improving his odds at winning the nomination.

[136 or 142]

The whole premise of the Tea Party - take our country back.

Right, take our country back...from those different from us: the coloreds, the gays...

[Dr. MD MD]

I came across this last night and thought it was pretty funny. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfXdmHseiFA

The imitations are quite good! 

[FightTheFuture]

Guess who`s setting a big ol` trap for Dumbass Drumpf??






Go ahead donnie. Pick a fight with the first lady

[FightTheFuture]

FIRST TIME IN ITS HISTORY...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/29/dont-vote-for-donald-trump-editorial-board-editorials-debates/91295020/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Scathing editorial. They nail it. Trump UNFIT to be POTUS.

[FightTheFuture]

This almost difficult to watch. Trump has out done himself this time. I thought Katrina Pierson was the most breathtakingly ignorant spokesperson (besides his OTHER spokesperson, Omarosa) ever seen on live television. But Trump decided he needed to really drive the point home that he has a good brain. Unfortunately, Baghdad Bob was unavailable, so he chose the nest best person -- Jason Miller:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/those-are-fan-polls-man-chuck-todd-grills-trump-spox-for-touting-online-poll-victory/

[SciFiAuthor]

Fair question. I suppose such a vulgar display of power would only frighten people and turn them against God.  You have free will to follow the teachings of Christ...or not. It`s entirely up to you.

I don't think anyone does follow them, partly because no one seems to agree on just what his teachings were. If they did agree, everyone would be orthodox and there would be no denominations, if for no other reason than that was seemingly Jesus' biggest fear. Worries of disunity seemed to have weighed greatly on him. Given that it culminated in much bloodshed during the protestant reformation that could have been avoided had God issued a clarification memo of some sort detailing specifically what the hell he wanted from people, I'm left once again wondering about the ethics of heaven.

[FightTheFuture]

I don't think anyone does follow them, partly because no one seems to agree on just what his teachings were. If they did agree, everyone would be orthodox and there would be no denominations, if for no other reason than that was seemingly Jesus' biggest fear. Worries of disunity seemed to have weighed greatly on him. Given that it culminated in much bloodshed during the protestant reformation that could have been avoided had God issued a clarification memo of some sort detailing specifically what the hell he wanted from people, I'm left once again wondering about the ethics of heaven.

You need to do some reading. Start with Romans 3:22 - 24:

                   22 And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.…

Jesus died a hideous death on the cross so that we can still bask in the glory of God and Heaven, even though we are sinners. What is the requirement for such a gift? Belief. That`s it.

                      John 3:16
      16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Pretty groovy, eh?



                     

[Lt.Uhura]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-early-tweet-storm-alicia-machado-228947

It looks like Trump will be ratcheting up his nasty personal attacks between now and Election Day in full self-sabotage mode, paving the way for a decisive victory for Hillary.  She's probably preparing a thank you note already.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

I don't think anyone does follow them, partly because no one seems to agree on just what his teachings were. If they did agree, everyone would be orthodox and there would be no denominations, if for no other reason than that was seemingly Jesus' biggest fear. Worries of disunity seemed to have weighed greatly on him. Given that it culminated in much bloodshed during the protestant reformation that could have been avoided had God issued a clarification memo of some sort detailing specifically what the hell he wanted from people, I'm left once again wondering about the ethics of heaven.

He did leave a clarification memo that summarized his teachings; love God above all and love neighbor as self. 

[Yorkshire pud]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-early-tweet-storm-alicia-machado-228947

It looks like Trump will be ratcheting up his nasty personal attacks between now and Election Day in full self-sabotage mode, paving the way for a decisive victory for Hillary.  She's probably preparing a thank you note already.

I wonder if he'd commnicate a presidency via tweets? His misogyny is a given and no longer shocks. Its nasty but his normal.

[FightTheFuture]

He did leave a clarification memo that summarized his teachings; love God above all and love neighbor as self.

Good one

[Lt.Uhura]

I wonder if he'd commnicate a presidency via tweets? His misogyny is a given and no longer shocks. Its nasty but his normal.

True, but he held his nasty dog in check at the last debate, almost looked mature and reasonable.  He's expected to fully unleash for the next one.  Supposedly the equally rabid Chris Christie is helping him prepare, guaranteeing a public relations disaster.  But then again he hasn't murdered anyone yet, so his followers probably think he still has a chance.

[SciFiAuthor]

You need to do some reading. Start with Romans 3:22 - 24:

                   22 And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.…

Jesus died a hideous death on the cross so that we can still bask in the glory of God and Heaven, even though we are sinners. What is the requirement for such a gift? Belief. That`s it.

                      John 3:16
      16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Pretty groovy, eh?          

Yeah, but nobody agrees on that and probably a majority of Christians believe that the other denominations are going to roast, though things have been more touchy feely friendly as of late. And those Christians will cite other passages to back up their viewpoints. Wars were fought over that stuff, which does not bode well for the resume of the Holy Spirit.

I think my biggest problem with the idea of organized religion is that it's so human. I could totally buy that the universe is a computer simulation written by some kind of god. In fact, that may even be statistically likely if the anthropic principle is to be believed. And the order of the universe and the precision of the laws of physics lend credence to the idea that the universe is pretty damned competently constructed for a computer simulation. But sticking an island consciousnesses on a planet just to fight with each other until they finally die and presumably move to another level of the simulation seems really human, flawed and silly to me. Then again, God may just be some computer scientist playing around with an ant farm living in a simulation himself.

I say this because I think religion is going to go obsolete and stop making sense in the not too distant future. We're getting closer to a number of ways to defeat death and eventually that will happen. No death means no need for salvation. More, we'll eventually be able to build a supercomputer capable of simulating the universe ourselves complete with A.I. consciousnesses within it. At that point, we become God. No religion has any mechanism to deal with that eventuality.

[Value Of Pi]

Oh.  I don't know of any pundits who noticed this new Republican voting block either before Trump came along.  It's possible that a few pundits speculated after Santorum's surprisingly relatively successful 2012 Presidential Primary  campaign that a pro-labor (or non anti labor) Republican who was opposed to free trade,  immigration like Santorum but without the far right social conservative focus might do well, but I don't know of any pundits who followed up on that in any way, and I don't know of any pundits who predicted before the start of the 2016 Republican Presidential Primary that any prospective Republican candidate who might come fairly close to that profile would do well. The names nearly all pundits through out as the likeliest to be nominated were Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and Scott Walker with Ted Cruz in a fairly distant forth. 

The additional incoherent point about Trump that is sort of a main thing with many of his idiot supporters is his generally anti neo conservative foreign policy outlook.  (Incoherent because he combines it with some sort of plan to quickly 'wipe out' ISIL and also wants to increase military spending), but he has also campaigned against other neo-conservative policy positions.  I can't remember what Santorum's foreign policy views were in the 2012 campaign, or if he even had any foreign policy views.

However, all of the names I mentioned above of those the pundits (and most Republican officials and other insiders) predicted as the most likely Republican Presidential nominee, with maybe the exception of Scott Walker whose foreign policy positions I also can't remember, are all neo-conservatives.

The only anti neo-conservative in the race taken seriously by the pundits initially (though not to the point that they thought that he had a realistic shot at winning the nomination) was Rand Paul, and even he backed away from a strict isolationist libertarian foreign policy in the hopes of improving his odds at winning the nomination.

Thr voting block hadn't emerged yet, but the few observers I'm talking about were looking at various trends among voters and where their growing dissatisfaction with the status quo was focused. America First, anti-globalization and anti-political correctness were big with the Tea Party, for example. The Tea Party didn't go away, it has just morphed into Trumpism.

Nobody predicted Trump or that a single politician would bring all the emerging trends together in one candidacy. All they saw was the fertile ground if one was to come along. The potential for this election was there and Trump wasn't the only one who realized it.

[analog kid]

Right, take our country back...from those different from us: the coloreds, the gays...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tKvRqzeXnE

[136 or 142]

Thr voting block hadn't emerged yet, but the few observers I'm talking about were looking at various trends among voters and where their growing dissatisfaction with the status quo was focused. America First, anti-globalization and anti-political correctness were big with the Tea Party, for example. The Tea Party didn't go away, it has just morphed into Trumpism.

Nobody predicted Trump or that a single politician would bring all the emerging trends together in one candidacy. All they saw was the fertile ground if one was to come along. The potential for this election was there and Trump wasn't the only one who realized it.

OK, that may have been picked up as that fits into the Alex Jones view of the world, and has been growing with Republicans as has the general acceptance of conspiracy theories with a large number of Republicans (birtherism, death panels).  But, I don't know of any pundit who thought that any Republican Presidential Primary candidate could harness that into support in the Primary as those Tea Baggers who adopted Alex Jones lunacy generally also disclaimed the Republican Party and, while no candidate wanted to have anything to do with the birthers, I believe a number of candidates had at one time or another claimed the 'death panels' nonsense was a real concern.  So there were a number of candidates:  Ben Carson, likely Chris Christie and Scott Walker and maybe Marco Rubio (he wasn't in the U.S Senate when Obamacare was an issue) who the 'mainstream' Republican conspiracy theory loons could have rallied around.

[RealCool Daddio]

https://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/781831557845704704

[RealCool Daddio]

https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/781835773612060672

[mikuthing01]

Guess who`s setting a big ol` trap for Dumbass Drumpf??






Go ahead donnie. Pick a fight with the first lady

[analog kid]

The funny thing is, there is no sex tape. It's obvious staged footage from some reality TV show.

[GravitySucks]

The funny thing is, there is no sex tape. It's obvious staged footage from some reality TV show.

It was apparently enough to cause Bobby Abreu to call off their engagement.