President Donald J. Trump

[RealCool Daddio]

I don`t often agree with the Cool one, but on this, we`re in total agreement.

Trump's candidacy has exposed the true divisions in the American political landscape - not left vs. right, but the civilized vs. the barbaric.
Our differences aside, I'm not shocked we ended up on the same page in this case.

[RealCool Daddio]

Trump Supporter Who Made Nazi Salute Explains Why She Made the Gesture

Ms. Peterson, who was born in West Berlin in 1946 and became an American citizen in 1982, said she took offense to the comparison of Mr. Trump to Hitler.

“They said Trump is a second Hitler,” Ms. Peterson said. “I said do you know what that sign stands for? Do you know who Hitler really was?”

“I make the point that they are demonstrating something they had no knowledge about,” she said. “If you want to do it right, you do it right. You don’t know what you are doing.”

That is when she made the Nazi salute â€" a gesture that is banned in Germany â€" as a form of counterprotest. But that is all it was, she said.

“Absolutely I’m not a Nazi, no,” she said. “I’m not one of those.”[/b]

Full article:
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/12/trump-supporter-who-made-nazi-salute-explains-why-she-made-the-gesture/

"Yeah, yeah, it was just a counter protest."

https://youtu.be/iyp9fh-u4w8

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Ha, thanks I think the same of you. I was being a bit facetious, with the "false flag" "inside job" comments, I thought folks would get. But, then again. But to me individuals matter; not racial, ethnic, or religious groups- but when one of any says "I'm the enemy" I won't say, no you are not once they attack. If I look at history, maybe selfishly, I will say for all the "bad" done I will take Western Civilization and even Christianity over the others. And I don't wish to offend anyone or ever use personal attacks. Sorry, if did so. But I do find this idea that some methods or conspiracy theorizing are only 'allowed' for some situations or, even, believed based intentional of presumed badness. But, depending on situation- or especially who, or what groups (since it is all about identity politics and race, thank you Obama, and decades of cultural revisionism, political correctness, etc,) the same type of tactics, or even conspiracy theory, are verboten? Not a few decades ago attacking, for example, black school kids forced into white schools- or worse bused into outside of district schools was vilified. Rightly so. And the Democrats who did it in the South, or in Boston, moved on. But now BLM types can shut down an airport? Illegals can shut down roads? "Activists" routinely shut down schools, political speeches, throw bottles, rocks, even shoot and burn and loot because BLM or illegals need more hand-outs? BLM- they even tend to kill more of each OTHER on a yearly basis than "evil white cops" or even KKK over history? Crazy! Illegals matter- but look at where they come from or how they treat each other to get over here! Yeah, the best of the best. Crazy!
Sorry, no offense, seriously because I enjoy your posts and never want to personalize things to stupid crap. But that is, in a way, my point, reducing everything to BLM, Illegals, etc ignores the individuals and makes everything Balkanized and tears down the country which, admittedly, was Obama's goal ('fundamental transformation'- you don't want to 'fundamentally transform' something that you have any loyalty or belief in.)

No offense taken!  I know you don't take our disagreements personally, and I don't either.  I kid because I like you. 

Cheers!

[Taco Bell]

Trump's candidacy has exposed the true divisions in the American political landscape - not left vs. right, but the civilized vs. the barbaric.
Our differences aside, I'm not shocked we ended up on the same page in this case.

It is a wild and wacky time here, politically. It will be interesting for everyone within their own community to see how many become unexpectedly political, for either side. Imagine that old lady down the street who's a widow. She could totally be the opposite of what you'd think, she tosses a sign in her yard. That young couple with a kid could totally surprise you. You see a sticker on their car. Never saw that coming.

It's times like these the quiet speak out softly as the idiots speak louder. The hard part is drowning the loud ones out.

It's odd. You make your decision in your own head, then you sit back and watch it all happen. Not just in your neighborhood, but your city, county, state, and nationally. And to think your one vote doesn't really matter. It's unbelievable we have the freedom to do so.  I wouldn't trade it, I dont want to know another way.

[21st Century Man]

Ahhh the good old days when our federal and state govts. didn't put up with this shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpg0UfpuUAs

[FightTheFuture]

It`s 1968 again in America. George Wallace Donald Trump is hard at work dividing the country and further isolating the US from the rest of the civilized world. "Punch them in the face!"

[FightTheFuture]

No, it's BLM and the usual suspects. Don't give lefty shit disturbers a pass, they'd be doing shit like this to Cruz if Trump wasn't around.

I never said it wasn`t. What I am saying , is Trump is grossly exacerbating the anger and racial divide which is driving more and more protests to take place --  keep spreading shit and you can bet the flies will appear. Clearly ...clearly you must be able to see that much. And as far as I can tell, Trump is not of a mind to tone the rhetoric down. I promise you, this "movement" is only going to get uglier and uglier. At some point, rational-minded Americans will wake the f*** up and put an end to this nonsense.

Only 2 scenarios will play out. First, Trump will be crushed in the general election by Clinton and the circus will be over. Or, he wins the general and finds himself in the White House and completely unable to get anything accomplished, which will usher in a mid-term bloodbath for the RNC. If Trump makes it through his first term, he will be regarded as the greatest political blunder in history and the Democrats will control the White House and enjoy super majority in the congress for decades.

[ItsOver]

Yeah, he's just not getting it. But fuck that. *suckles on MV's teats*.

Oh, geez.  Don't make Putin jealous.  We don't need a mega dolphin and whale slaughter.

[analog kid]

Anyone remember how bad it was during the 2004 elections? We're not there yet, but it may get that bad.

[ItsOver]

2004?  How about 2000.  It was decided by the Supreme Court.  Now 2016 will be deciding the Supreme Court.  Unless Mitch The Turtle and his RINOs sell-out early.

[henge0stone]

I never said it wasn`t. What I am saying , is Trump is grossly exacerbating the anger and racial divide which is driving more and more protests to take place --  keep spreading shit and you can bet the flies will appear.

Only 2 scenarios will play out. First, Trump will be crushed in the general election by Clinton and the circus will be over.

Clinton WILL beat Trump in a general election, Bernie would crush him.

This is really all the proof we need that trump has called for violence in his rally's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fyFN-rXoU

Now he's threatening to send his supporters to Sander's rally's. Well if your supporters are as non-violent as you say then that's not much of a threat but it was a threat, so draw your own conclusions.

It's more likely that the protesters were mostly Bernie fans because no one is passionate about Clinton at all.

I do feel bad for the Trump supporter who was killed. No one should be killed over stuff like this. Poor guy.

[The King of Kings]

I never said it wasn`t. What I am saying , is Trump is grossly exacerbating the anger and racial divide which is driving more and more protests to take place --

Trump is exacerbating the racial divide?

The only people who are exacerbating the racial divide has been Obama, Black Lives Matter and their subordinates, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Bernie Sanders and other racial grievance industry groups.

We have witnessed violence on the streets, violence on the campus of our schools, and now they are bringing violence to Trump's rally.

We all know you are pretty fucking stupid and uniformed FightTheTears, but you can't honestly believe this is Trump's fault at all when you have seen the violence and rhetoric way before Trump even announced his candidacy.

Call Trump an idiot, call Trump supporters idiots, fine, but to ignore what is happening and who is at fault is just plain lunacy.

[analog kid]

2004?  How about 2000.  It was decided by the Supreme Court.  Now 2016 will be deciding the Supreme Court.  Unless Mitch The Turtle and his RINOs sell-out early.

I mean the violence and turmoil during the election season. It came to a head during the national conventions, as far as I remember. A lot has gone down the memory hole, but 2004 was insane. Largely due to lingering depression over 9/11 and the Iraq war. There were women getting knocked to the ground and kicked and stepped on. I don't think the current climate is anywhere near as bad, is all.

[The King of Kings]

Be a good goy and listen to the media when they say Trump and his supporters are violent.

[henge0stone]

Be a good goy and listen to the media when they say Trump and his supporters are violent.

And no Trump supporter has ever said anything similar to this  :

And certainly no violence from Trump himself

[The King of Kings]

And no Trump supporter has ever said anything similar to this  :

And certainly no violence from Trump himself

Post something then.

Trump supporter was killed in Chicago.

Trump has held rallies all over America for months with zero incidents.

When the BLM thugs show up and incite violence, Trump is blamed not the thugs.

When Moveon.org shows up in planned aggressive violence, Trump gets blamed not Moveon.org.

The liberal left and their goons spouting nonsense, that weak minded idiots like yourself parrot.

[The King of Kings]

And no Trump supporter has ever said anything similar to this  :

And certainly no violence from Trump himself

When was Trump violent?  Please answer this, I am laughing how stupid this assertion is and really wanting to laugh even harder.

[SredniVashtar]

When was Trump violent?  Please answer this, I am laughing how stupid this assertion is and really wanting to laugh even harder.

I tried to shake the man's hand at a shindig he was holding in Palookaville when his "hair" jumped down and dug its claws into my head. I am suing him for assault and emotional fondlement.

[analog kid]

I tried to shake the man's hand at a shindig he was holding in Palookaville when his "hair" jumped down and dug its claws into my head. I am suing him for assault and emotional fondlement.

Related to nothing, but that reminds me that Trump was once a germaphobe who wouldn't eat after shaking someone's hand, which was a problem since, as a celebrity, people were constantly shaking his hand. This was early 2000s I think. I'm an OCD germaphobe myself, but it doesn't get in the way of pigging out.

[FightTheFuture]

Clinton WILL beat Trump in a general election, Bernie would crush him.

This is really all the proof we need that trump has called for violence in his rally's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fyFN-rXoU

Now he's threatening to send his supporters to Sander's rally's. Well if your supporters are as non-violent as you say then that's not much of a threat but it was a threat, so draw your own conclusions.

It's more likely that the protesters were mostly Bernie fans because no one is passionate about Clinton at all.

I do feel bad for the Trump supporter who was killed. No one should be killed over stuff like this. Poor guy.

Yeah, certainly no shortage of material to impeach the Clown. But the mouth-breathers who support him have no need of the truth. They`re angry, racist, and terribly uninformed, not to mention breathtakingly gullible. Nice little compilation here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fvoG_CfmO8

[henge0stone]

Clinton WILL beat Trump in a general election, Bernie would crush him.

This is really all the proof we need that trump has called for violence in his rally's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fyFN-rXoU

Now he's threatening to send his supporters to Sander's rally's. Well if your supporters are as non-violent as you say then that's not much of a threat but it was a threat, so draw your own conclusions.

It's more likely that the protesters were mostly Bernie fans because no one is passionate about Clinton at all.

I do feel bad for the Trump supporter who was killed. No one should be killed over stuff like this. Poor guy.

KOK you clearly aren't reading my posts.

Here is the supporter who punched that guy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-protester-sucker-punched-at-north-carolina-rally-videos-show/

Edit: how many other rally's have violence at them? Trumps didn't start out violent but he insistently approves of the violence. This violence towards peaceful protesters has enraged people to the point of where now some of them are violent.

Neither side has any right to be violent towards the other but you can't keep ignoring the things Trump has said about the protestors at these rallys and denying that he has any part in inciting violence.

[SciFiAuthor]

I never said it wasn`t. What I am saying , is Trump is grossly exacerbating the anger and racial divide which is driving more and more protests to take place --  keep spreading shit and you can bet the flies will appear. Clearly ...clearly you must be able to see that much. And as far as I can tell, Trump is not of a mind to tone the rhetoric down. I promise you, this "movement" is only going to get uglier and uglier. At some point, rational-minded Americans will wake the f*** up and put an end to this nonsense.

Well, that's what the media talking heads and some of the establishment and Bernie Sanders have been out saying. Basically blame Trump for leftwing violence. No, having watched Baltimore and Ferguson, I'm not falling for that shit and neither should you. Obama told these people to get in "people's faces" and "bring a gun to a knife fight" and set this tone. Just because Donald Trump talks like a guy that has a set of balls does not mean that he's inciting Bernie Sander's supporters to be violent.

Only 2 scenarios will play out. First, Trump will be crushed in the general election by Clinton and the circus will be over. Or, he wins the general and finds himself in the White House and completely unable to get anything accomplished, which will usher in a mid-term bloodbath for the RNC. If Trump makes it through his first term, he will be regarded as the greatest political blunder in history and the Democrats will control the White House and enjoy super majority in the congress for decades.

I much prefer that to Cruz's certainty of losing either Ohio or Florida and losing the election because of a lack of 270 electoral votes. You need to revisit the circumstances of the 2012 electoral map, look into the demographic changes behind why Romney lost and think carefully about things. You are not watching a normal election, you are watching the last chance that the GOP has to ever hold the presidency again. We had one path to victory in the electoral college, and that is now closed. Only wildcard candidates like Trump can win (or spectacularly lose) presidential elections on our side now. The Democrats have turned the presidency into a one-party office, aided by the republican neoconservative establishment over the last 20 years, and that needs to stop. It needed to stop a decade ago. Don't ask me to vote for an unelectable candidate like Cruz when this is the last hurrah.

[The King of Kings]

KOK you clearly aren't reading my posts.

Here is the supporter who punched that guy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-protester-sucker-punched-at-north-carolina-rally-videos-show/

Edit: how many other rally's have violence at them? Trumps didn't start out violent but he insistently approves of the violence. This violence towards peaceful protesters has enraged people to the point of where now some of them are violent.

Neither side has any right to be violent towards the other but you can't keep ignoring the things Trump has said about the protestors at these rallys and denying that he has any part in inciting violence.

They aren't peacefully protesting.

They are disrupting, being aggressive with people, yelling epithets and other derogatory language towards Trump supporters at Trump rallies.

Trump has been a candidate since I believe July of last year.  He has held countless rallies across the USA.  None of the violence started until people who organize online come to his rallies to disrupt and incite violence to break out.

I guarantee that if Trump supporters organized online, and started coming to Hillary or Bernie rallies with the sole intent to disrupt and incite violence, that violence would occur.  I wouldn't blame Hillary or Bernie, I would blame the Trump supporters.

You have an active volcano of hate and violence that is being spouted online against Trump by Sanders and Hillary supporters, and Black Lives Matter.  They are calling for his assassination, the assassination of his children and killing of Trump supporters.  These are not isolated incidents.  These are ongoing threats from liberals.

A Trump supporter was actually killed in Chicago Friday night.

This isn't hard to follow or understand.  It just takes a bit of opening the eyes.

[SciFiAuthor]

Jeez. Kasich is out talking about giving illegals a "path to legalization" within his first 100 days in office if elected. That's really called an amnesty. It's like Jonathan Reed took a political candidate from 2004, stuck him in a freezer next to the alien, then thawed him out and turned him loose in 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Zy_FVT4hY

[henge0stone]

They aren't peacefully protesting.

They are disrupting, being aggressive with people, yelling epithets and other derogatory language towards Trump supporters at Trump rallies.

Now its your turn to show me where protesters before Saturday had been violent. Trump has said they were being aggressive but I've never seen any evidence to back that up we have plenty of evidence of people being handled roughly as they were taken out (the guy being punched for instance). The violence has only escalated since Trump started yelling out at the people being escorted out. Remember when that one person almost rushed Bernie who was escorted out? Instead of yelling at them saying he would pay the legal fees of anyone who punched that person he ignored it and as far as I know no other incidences have occurred.

I'm not saying these protestors who showed up in Chicago were wonderful peaceful people, far from it since someone was actually killed, but Trump himself has a huge role in the inciting of violence at these rallys that can not be denied.

[Designx]

It's pretty simple. Trump is holding rallies in places no Republican candidate would ever go - places that have been eternally blue and full of government dependents and entitlements.
If Trump wanted to play it safe, he would hold rallies in places that required a personal vehicle to attend.

[henge0stone]

People protest political speeches all the time, the difference is the person speaking usually doesn't stop to tell his supporters to punch them.

[RealCool Daddio]

Well, that's what the media talking heads and some of the establishment and Bernie Sanders have been out saying. Basically blame Trump for leftwing violence...

The head doing the talking belongs to Donald:

"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."
"Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."
"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."
"Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"Knock the crap out of them."
"Maybe he should have been roughed up."
"I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will."

The transparent attempts of his supporters to blame black people speaks volumes about who they really are.  The demonizing of a free press speaks volumes about who they really are.  Their attempts to silence opposition through intimidation and violence speaks volumes about who they really are: the barbarians at the gate.

[SciFiAuthor]

The head doing the talking belongs to Donald:

"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."
"Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."
"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."
"Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"Knock the crap out of them."
"Maybe he should have been roughed up."
"I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will."

The transparent attempts of his supporters to blame black people speaks volumes about who they really are.  The demonizing of a free press speaks volumes about who they really are.  Their attempts to silence opposition through intimidation and violence speaks volumes about who they really are: the barbarians at the gate.

Obama said lots of shit like that and Ferguson and Baltimore burnt down long before Trump entered the race. It's stupid to ignore that. And then you have shit like this where Jake Tapper insinuates among some very odd hand gestures that pressing charges against a violent protestor is somehow inciting violence. I don't want to live in a society where pressing charges on someone assaulting me is seen as the reason I was assaulted in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgWjXgHn3QQ

[SciFiAuthor]

It's pretty simple. Trump is holding rallies in places no Republican candidate would ever go - places that have been eternally blue and full of government dependents and entitlements.
If Trump wanted to play it safe, he would hold rallies in places that required a personal vehicle to attend.

There is wisdom in this statement. He came to St. Louis yesterday and held his rally down town. I've never seen a Republican candidate do that, they usually hold them out in the wealthy Republican dominated suburbs. I understand why he's doing that, you should go where you don't have any voters, not where you have them sewn up already, but it's a REALLY dangerous strategy.