President Donald J. Trump

[Metron2267]

My my you have been busy this morning!    It's funny you bring up the recession as being an impact afterwards, because when I did, you dismissed it; Of course nothing to do with Obama being the POTUS at the time.

Very obviously when the jobs dried up, so did the illlegals.

https://web.stanford.edu/group/recessiontrends/cgi-bin/web/sites/all/themes/barron/pdf/Immigration_fact_sheet.pdf

In sum, although permanent and undocumented migration rose in the years leading up to the Great Recession, only tempo- rary labor migration rebounded and, indeed, accelerated after 2009. At present, permanent immigration is currently holding steady at around a million entries per year, refugee migration is just over 50,000 entries per year, and undocumented migra- tion has effectively ceased. Only guest worker migration has risen substantially. The main conclusion, then, to this point is that the undocumented influx ended with the Great Reces-sion, whereas the number of guest workers took off.

Hey what do you think to Trump denying he fired Comey because of Russia, in a tweet today, even though there's video footage in his interview with Lester Holt admitting that's exactly why he fired him? The dementia is setting in. 

I frankly do not give a fig.

But your need to deflect the discussion back to Trump (as always) is established.

[Yorkshire pud]

Very obviously when the jobs dried up, so did the illlegals.

https://web.stanford.edu/group/recessiontrends/cgi-bin/web/sites/all/themes/barron/pdf/Immigration_fact_sheet.pdf

In sum, although permanent and undocumented migration rose in the years leading up to the Great Recession, only tempo- rary labor migration rebounded and, indeed, accelerated after 2009. At present, permanent immigration is currently holding steady at around a million entries per year, refugee migration is just over 50,000 entries per year, and undocumented migra- tion has effectively ceased. Only guest worker migration has risen substantially. The main conclusion, then, to this point is that the undocumented influx ended with the Great Reces-sion, whereas the number of guest workers took off.


I frankly do not give a fig.

But your need to deflect the discussion back to Trump (as always) is established.

Look at the title of the thread...  :

[albrecht]

I agree...Accusing Ted Cruz's dad of helping to assassinate JFK; Making the racist comment that a judge (Born in Indiana) was biased because he was Hispanic.

Replace "white" or "European" n the organization the judge belonged and had positions in and see then if your media would support. If he was an honest judge he would recuse himself because of his clear bias and ethnic partisanship. Imagine how it would fly if there was "White European Bar Society" or "National Advancement Party For Whites" or "Congressional White Caucus?" Think your buddies at MSNBC and CNN would like support a judge ruling with those ties?


ps: for someone so well-traveled you seem oddly misinformed. "Hispanic" is not a race, per official policy/law and general use. However, such clear ethnic bias by the judge should have made him recuse himself.

[Metron2267]

Look at the title of the thread...  :

Look at the flow of the discussion on actual illegal immigration numbers, the ones that just decimated your lying ass.

[Gd5150]

After 30 years of fails, President Donald J Trump will now lead the United States, and the world to remove North Korea’s thermonuclear weapons programs and create peace on the Korean Peninsula.

And the demokkkrats contribution? After 30 years they lead the demokkkrat media to remove Rosanne Bar’s show.

[Metron2267]

It's all about priorities for the Rats, sadly they seem to have infiltrated even presumed conservatives, nice of Mr. Gowdy to reveal who he is on the way out the door:



http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/05/31/trey-gowdy-claims-americans-want-fbi-using-informants-in-political-campaigns/
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) claimed this week that Americans want the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) snooping in political campaigns, even as he undermined President Donald Trump’s claims of a “spy” in his own.
Those remarks, which Gowdy made to Fox News‘ Martha MacCallum on Tuesday evening and on CBS This Morning on Wednesday, made Gowdy an instant hero to Democrats to the media, were met with blistering criticism from conservatives.

Gowdy told MacCallum that he could not explain why former FBI director James Comey did not give the Trump campaign a “defensive briefing,” if their real concern was to protect the campaign from Russian infiltration. But he added: “I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got. And that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.”

It is not clear how Gowdy arrived at the conclusion that Americans would want the FBI to send a spy, or “informant” â€" the term preferred by former Obama intelligence chief James Clapper â€" to campaigns, particularly those run by the political opposition.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Hey what do you think to Trump denying he fired Comey because of Russia, in a tweet today, even though there's video footage in his interview with Lester Holt admitting that's exactly why he fired him? The dementia is setting in. 

The president can fire any of the appointees who serve at his pleasure for any reason.  There were multiple reasons to fire Comey, and Trump is't any more required to list all of them every time than anyone else would be. 

Every Obama holdover should have been fired.  They were all either Left-wing hacks, willing to commit felonies on behalf of him and his administration, or were sell out Republicans - like Comey - willing to do anything to stay in power.  By the way, that's your answer on Muller too, he wasn't ''respected by everyone'', he was just another sellout. 

[PB the Deplorable]

I was thinking about Trump and lies yesterday.  Between his lies, and the lies the Fake Media and D-Rats tell about him (and you perpetuate), which is a larger number?  Which are more destructive to the country?  Which are more evil vs. those which would be considered self aggrandizement?

[albrecht]

The president can fire any of the appointees who serve at his pleasure for any reason.  There were multiple reasons to fire Comey, and Trump is't any more required to list all of them every time than anyone else would be. 

Every Obama holdover should have been fired.  They were all either Left-wing hacks, willing to commit felonies on behalf of him and his administration, or were sell out Republicans - like Comey - willing to do anything to stay in power.  By the way, that's your answer on Muller too, he wasn't ''respected by everyone'', he was just another sellout.

I turned on CNN about an hour ago and some Congressman from Tenn (Cohen?) was talking to Wolf Blitzer, you gotta love how they come up with these names, was talking about impeaching Trump because of his pardons. Even Wolf was, somewhat, aghast and had to keep pointing out that pardons and clemency is expressly Constitutional and that every President, even Clinton and Trump, have done so (and for people with far more controversy, I will add.) This guy kept saying "I know" but in the Federalist Papers this was discussed and reasons to impeach. However he could not cite the citation and babbled a bit finally admitting that a President can pardon for whatever reason but still Congress should impeach him for it.  Apparently the guy is a lawyer by education but is very unprepared for arguments.

[PB the Deplorable]

I turned on CNN about an hour ago and some Congressman from Tenn (Cohen?) was talking to Wolf Blitzer, you gotta love how they come up with these names, was talking about impeaching Trump because of his pardons. Even Wolf was, somewhat, aghast and had to keep pointing out that pardons and clemency is expressly Constitutional and that every President, even Clinton and Trump, have done so (and for people with far more controversy, I will add.) This guy kept saying "I know" but in the Federalist Papers this was discussed and reasons to impeach. However he could not cite the citation and babbled a bit finally admitting that a President can pardon for whatever reason but still Congress should impeach him for it.  Apparently the guy is a lawyer by education but is very unprepared for arguments.

Well, as Shreddi pointed out, these aren't ''lies'', it's just ''politics''. 

[Jackstar]

Hey what do you think to Trump denying

After years of your hit'n'run forum fascist bullshit, no one cares about what you think is important, Fucko. It's the end of the line--you're obviously an even bigger idiot than Falkie. Utterly pathetic. Very low energy. Come visit some time, bring a pack of gum--I'll show you how to chew it.

t. human

[SredniVashtar]

I was thinking about Trump and lies yesterday.  Between his lies, and the lies the Fake Media and D-Rats tell about him (and you perpetuate), which is a larger number?  Which are more destructive to the country?  Which are more evil vs. those which would be considered self aggrandizement?

I'll help you out since you seem unsure. If Trump can't establish a reasonable reputation for honesty then he can't do any deals. Or, if he does, he has to bribe them so much that it doesn't matter.

[SredniVashtar]

This may surprise you but I’ve done a bit of traveling myself.  In fact, I have set foot on every continent except Antarctica.   

I see Captain Nemo has returned. You ought to go pay it a visit. You might even get stuck under an ice sheet.

[Metron2267]

I'll help you out since you seem unsure. If Trump can't establish a reasonable reputation for honesty then he can't do any deals. Or, if he does, he has to bribe them so much that it doesn't matter.

Proof of these  alleged "bribes" is where?

[Jackstar]

If Trump can't establish a reasonable reputation for honesty then he can't do any deals. Or, if he does, he has to bribe them so much that it doesn't matter.

That's really just your opinion -and- you used the word "if" a lot. Keep dreaming and grasping at straws, if that's all you got.

[albrecht]

I'll help you out since you seem unsure. If Trump can't establish a reasonable reputation for honesty then he can't do any deals. Or, if he does, he has to bribe them so much that it doesn't matter.

Al Yamamah

[GravitySucks]

Proof of these  alleged "bribes" is where?

That plane load of unmarked bills he delivered to Iran. Oh, wait. That was the other guy.

[PB the Deplorable]

I'll help you out since you seem unsure. If Trump can't establish a reasonable reputation for honesty then he can't do any deals. Or, if he does, he has to bribe them so much that it doesn't matter.

You do realize how ludicrous the Trump haters sound when they act as though Trump is the one who introduced lying to politics in general, and Washington DC in particular don't you?  For example, I don't recall Obama or either of the Clintons telling the truth about anything, ever - do you?  George W Bush has earned a bit of a rep for lying about a few things.  What about all the Establishment Republicans who campaign as conservatives during election years, then return to DC and are anything but?  What about all the ''progressives'' claiming to be for the poor and middle class - didn't some of them confess the reason they lost the last election is because that's no longer true? 

One difference is Trump is actually doing what he campaigned on.  Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and ISIS and the rest of the terrorists certainly seem to be taking him seriously.  And by the way, so are our so-called NATO allies - they just pretend otherwise because they don't like what they're hearing.

[albrecht]

That plane load of unmarked bills he delivered to Iran. Oh, wait. That was the other guy.

Lest we also forget another guy also flying pallets of cash to a Muslim country. Weird how we sometimes support Iran and sometimes support Iraq and seem to always, depending on decade, want to invade or meddle in both.

[SredniVashtar]

You do realize how ludicrous the Trump haters sound when they act as though Trump is the one who introduced lying to politics in general, and Washington DC in particular don't you?  For example, I don't recall Obama or either of the Clintons telling the truth about anything, ever - do you?  George W Bush has earned a bit of a rep for lying about a few things.  What about all the Establishment Republicans who campaign as conservatives during election years, then return to DC and are anything but?  What about all the ''progressives'' claiming to be for the poor and middle class - didn't some of them confess the reason they lost the last election is because that's no longer true? 

One difference is Trump is actually doing what he campaigned on.  Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and ISIS and the rest of the terrorists certainly seem to be taking him seriously.  And by the way, so are our so-called NATO allies - they just pretend otherwise because they don't like what they're hearing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

I'll drop this in here since you're such a notable exponent.

I'd take a chimp with a shotgun pretty seriously too. I think you ought to wait for some solid achievements in foreign policy before you start to crow about them.

[SredniVashtar]

That's really just your opinion -and- you used the word "if" a lot. Keep dreaming and grasping at straws, if that's all you got.

I used it twice, if you consider that a lot. But I guess you do since it's one more than the number of times you've had sex with something that wasn't a trapped animal.

[SredniVashtar]

Al Yamamah

Is that your safeword at the Riyadh bath-house?

[Jackstar]

Weird how we sometimes support Iran and sometimes support Iraq

How is it 'weird' when that whole paradigm comes out directly from the official playbook?

Further, the geographical and political boundaries between those two countries were initially drawn by people who did not care which puppet government the unruly nomads allied with, nor do the aggressors care where their prey is dwelling in relation to those bullshit lines at this time.


All over the world, people who live in one place and do things, it's fine, but do those same things a few miles over--and it's a death sentence. Wait, what? Fucking says fucking who? WHO ARE THESE RULE MAKERS? This same pattern, over and over, repeated endlessly--it's been going on way, way before Orwell put pen to paper.


Just think it over.

I used it twice, if you consider that a lot.

doubleplus duckspeak

But I guess you do since it's one more than the number of times you've had sex with something that wasn't a trapped animal.

What are you even fucking talking about? It's completely insensible to me.

[Jackstar]

I think you ought to wait for some solid achievements in foreign policy

Man-Child, I'm still waiting for that from either Bush. Grow up.

[Gd5150]

Lest we also forget another guy also flying pallets of cash to a Muslim country. Weird how we sometimes support Iran and sometimes support Iraq and seem to always, depending on decade, want to invade or meddle in both.

I wonder if Iran’s Intelligence and Public Security Police followed in the footsteps of the F.B...I. and placed spies and wire taps in President Hassan Rouhani‘a campaign to, you know, protect their country from those meddling Americans.

[albrecht]

Is that your safeword at the Riyadh bath-house?

Ha. No Sir Jack, or Lawrence for that matter, who might be into all that Arab and African stuff, am I and you know well to what I'm referring when I post al Yamamah.

[starrmtn001]

https://youtu.be/BJDSti-gweY

[PB the Deplorable]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

I'll drop this in here since you're such a notable exponent.

I'd take a chimp with a shotgun pretty seriously too. I think you ought to wait for some solid achievements in foreign policy before you start to crow about them.

Those were actually two separate thoughts:

- Trump is actually doing what he campaigned on. 

- Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and ISIS and the rest of the terrorists certainly seem to be taking him seriously

[SredniVashtar]

Those were actually two separate thoughts:

- Trump is actually doing what he campaigned on. 

- Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and ISIS and the rest of the terrorists certainly seem to be taking him seriously

How is the big beautiful wall/fence/moat going?
And the delicious - tasting healthcare for everyone?

[SredniVashtar]

I'm still waiting for that from either Bush.

I'm completely uninterested in your bedroom preferences, you filthy animal.