President Donald J. Trump

[Up All Night]

Another day has gone by and Trump is still President.

The 2016 114th CONGRESS HR 132 Repeal Obamacare Bill went like this:

To repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “ObamaCare Repeal Act”.

SEC. 2. Repeal of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.

(a) Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.â€"Effective as of the enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111â€"148), such Act is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.

(b) Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.â€"Effective as of the enactment of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (Public Law 111â€"152), such Act is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.

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There was no "2-year" wait as far as I can see with the 2016 Bill. We're either smarter or dumber now, if leaving Obamacare in place for another 2 years is the road the Senate and HR now want to take, now that a different President is in office.

[PaulAtreides]

Another day has gone by and Trump is still President.

And another day has gone by and Trump hasn't done shit except play golf.

[Kidnostad3]

I am given to understand that he is also a notorious homosexual who suxxs off sailors at gunpoint.  Beware shipmate, beware.

Yeah, he learned that from his mother who had to do the same thing to get laid. She's by far the Ugliest woman in all KUKISTAN.  How ugly could she be you might ask. Clocks stop and paint actually begins to peel of the walls when she enters a room.  Her frightful appearance once stampeded a heard of dairy cows and traumatized them so badly that they didn't produce milk fo two months.   True story. 

[Dr. MD MD]

And another day has gone by and Trump hasn't done shit except play golf.

Hillary would've sold us out to at least 3 countries (adversaries) by now. WINNING! 

[paladin1991]

My COBRA was $450 per month with a $2500 deductible. When it ran out, the cheapest plan available to me in Texas was $960 per month with a $5000 deductible. Prior to the ACA, I could have gotten an individual policy for $400 per month with a $3000 deductible.

I went with one of the faith based health sharing networks for $200 per month. 3 years later and the benefits have already increased somewhat with no rise in monthly contributions.

Outstanding Gravity.  You worked your way through the ins nightmare and chose one of the faith based plans. Glad that you have ins.  Glad that you're not being buttfucked with Ocare. 
Faith based will be my fall back.

My story.  As Ocare rolled out, my company started shedding part time employees into Ocare.  My ins ran me 180 a month for a fam of four.  If I fell too low in hours, I would lose my company ins and 'have to' resort to Ocare.   But hey!, if I liked my old insurance policy I would have been able to keep it under Ocare.  (Bullshit!)
I looked into the cheapest plan for my fam.  The Bronze plan I think it was called.  960 buxx a month.  For less coverage.  Higher deductible/copays.   
IIRC, I had to start paying for that monthly and the 'subsidy' (calculated at roughly 200 buxx) would go as a tax credit against my Tax Return.
WINNING!

[paladin1991]

It sounds like you were lucky to find an individual policy prior to the ACA, i.e. no pre-existing conditions.

My premium went down significantly after the ACA, saving me about $600/mo, and from a $6,000 deductible to no deductible (with a minimal co-pay per visit).

Crazy.  How does it work out like that for you but not the rest of the working class?

[PB the Deplorable]

Crazy.  How does it work out like that for you but not the rest of the working class?

I'm still wondering how a person working at a good job in the medical field has such poor health insurance to begin with.  Maybe she's actually a bot program that translates Democrat talking points into personal experiences online.

[Gd5150]

It sounds like you were lucky to find an individual policy prior to the ACA, i.e. no pre-existing conditions.

My premium went down significantly after the ACA, saving me about $600/mo, and from a $6,000 deductible to no deductible (with a minimal co-pay per visit).

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Yeah and Trump colluded with Russians to rig the election and beat Hillary. Great story bro.

[SredniVashtar]

I'm still wondering how a person working at a good job in the medical field has such poor health insurance to begin with.  Maybe she's actually a bot program that translates Democrat talking points into personal experiences online.

If you had socialised healthcare then you'd be able to get proper meds to cope with these paranoid delusions. The generic ones they're giving you clearly aren't getting the job done.

[Dr. MD MD]

If you had socialised healthcare then you'd be able to get proper meds to cope with these paranoid delusions. The generic ones they're giving you clearly aren't getting the job done.

Shreddie! Why have you been so elusive lately? 

[SredniVashtar]

Shreddie! Why have you been so elusive lately? 

NWO summer camp.

[Dr. MD MD]

NWO summer camp.

Ah! The camp "councilors" have had you busy eating barks, bugs and leaves and singing anti-capitalist songs around the campfire. I'd ask if you were homesick yet but I know England isn't all that different now. 

[GravitySucks]

Outstanding Gravity.  You worked your way through the ins nightmare and chose one of the faith based plans. Glad that you have ins.  Glad that you're not being buttfucked with Ocare. 
Faith based will be my fall back.

My story.  As Ocare rolled out, my company started shedding part time employees into Ocare.  My ins ran me 180 a month for a fam of four.  If I fell too low in hours, I would lose my company ins and 'have to' resort to Ocare.   But hey!, if I liked my old insurance policy I would have been able to keep it under Ocare.  (Bullshit!)
I looked into the cheapest plan for my fam.  The Bronze plan I think it was called.  960 buxx a month.  For less coverage.  Higher deductible/copays.   
IIRC, I had to start paying for that monthly and the 'subsidy' (calculated at roughly 200 buxx) would go as a tax credit against my Tax Return.
WINNING!

Liberty Healthshare does not cover prescriptions but I have used goodrx.com to find massive discounts on prescriptions. One I started recently would have cost $266 per month. With goodrx.com it cost $31 using the same pharmacy.

[SredniVashtar]

faith based health sharing networks

Only in America.

For the low low price of 200 dollars a month, St Paul will fix your genital warts personally.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

Only in America.

For the low low price of 200 dollars a month, St Paul will fix your genital warts personally.

I just got off the phone with my insurance company, BCBS, pretty sure it was Lucifer himself I spoke to.   

[SredniVashtar]

I'm waiting for the first faith-based airline. Everyone starts singing hymns as they prepare to land.

[Lt.Uhura]

I'm still wondering how a person working at a good job in the medical field has such poor health insurance to begin with...

You really need to get out and talk to people more often, PB. Your eyes are wide shut.

Most people forget that health insurance premiums were rising significantly leading up to the ACA, so hospitals, like many corporations, reduced or eliminated part-time employees and supplemented full-time staff with relief (per diem), and temporary employees ("travelers"), for whom they pay no benefits. I have worked 'part-time' relief without benefits by choice for many years, and thus had to pay for my own health insurance. But, this decision has allowed me to remain in a stressful, demanding job where the turnover rate for full-time employees is extemely high (imagine 13 hr shifts on your feet taking care of others, often with no breaks to look after yourself).

Ironically, the last time I had employer-provided health insurance, the company disappeared overnight, stiffing employees with outstanding bills. Until the ACA, I was winging it with either over-priced, inadequate plans, or no insurance at all--which I don't recommend.

[Lt.Uhura]

I'm waiting for the first faith-based airline. Everyone starts singing hymns as they prepare to land.

😂

Welcome back Mr. Vashtar!

[CozyRozie]

Yeah, I learned that from my mother who had to do the same thing to get laid. She's by far the Ugliest woman in all KIDNOSTAD3.  How ugly could she be you might ask. Clocks stop and paint actually begins to peel of the walls when she enters a room.  Her frightful appearance once stampeded a heard of dairy cows and traumatized them so badly that they didn't produce milk fo two months.   True story.

WoW, Kidnostad3 your mother was really some ugly piece of work... LOL !!

[Kidnostad3]

If you had socialised healthcare then you'd be able to get proper meds to cope with these paranoid delusions. The generic ones they're giving you clearly aren't getting the job done.

For better or for worse, going to a single payer plan now seems inevitable.   In foisting upon the American taxpayer an unworkable market based plan that was enacted through trickery and deceit, the Dems legitimized the idea of universal health care.  They knew that once medical care began to be seen as a right there would be no going back no matter how much of a dog the ACA turned out to be.


When the Dems gain control of the Houee again you can bet that they will push to enact some version of socialized medicine citing the ACA as a noble but failed effort.    I can't wait for them to tell us how they intend to pay for it and the size of the bureaucracy they will need to administer it. 

[CozyRozie]

NWO summer camp.

Hey you, SredniVashtar
is that "summer camp" a code name for giving sexual favors to ISIS fighters ??

[CozyRozie]

Only in America.

For the low low price of 200 dollars a month, St Paul will fix your genital warts personally.

Hey you,SredniVashtar
but can you recalculate that 200 dollars a month to English money please.
I understand you had your genital warts fixed.. who gave them to you? Must be those shitskins you are importing to your Great Britain, LOL !!  

[SredniVashtar]

Hey you, SredniVashtar
is that "summer camp" a code name for giving sexual favors to ISIS fighters ??

That would be taking work from your mom, who needs the cash to support her retarded son.

[Kidnostad3]

You really need to get out and talk to people more often, PB. Your eyes are wide shut.

Most people forget that health insurance premiums were rising significantly leading up to the ACA, so hospitals, like many corporations, reduced or eliminated part-time employees and supplemented full-time staff with relief (per diem), and temporary employees ("travelers"), for whom they pay no benefits. I have worked 'part-time' relief without benefits by choice for many years, and thus had to pay for my own health insurance. But, this decision has allowed me to remain in a stressful, demanding job where the turnover rate for full-time employees is extemely high (imagine 13 hr shifts on your feet taking care of others, often with no breaks to look after yourself).

Ironically, the last time I had employer-provided health insurance, the company disappeared overnight, stiffing employees with outstanding bills. Until the ACA, I was winging it with either over-priced, inadequate plans, or no insurance at all--which I don't recommend.

One wonders why your employers don't value your services as much as you do and offer full medical coverage as a benefit.  It must have something to do with the labor market. 

[PB the Deplorable]

I'm waiting for the first faith-based airline. Everyone starts singing hymns as they prepare to land.

Isn't your immigration policy faith based? 

Opening the door to the worst people in the world, with the hope they'll become something different?

[SredniVashtar]

They knew that once medical care began to be seen as a right

Those evil bastards.

Anyway, this thread has converted me to faith-based healthcare. I'll just light a candle the next time I need something fixed.

[SredniVashtar]

Isn't your immigration policy faith based? 

Opening the door to the worst people in the world

No, we draw the line at Americans.

[Kidnostad3]

I'm waiting for the first faith-based airline. Everyone starts singing hymns as they prepare to land.

Every time you step on a plane it's an act of faith.  Especially if you're flying Delta.

[CozyRozie]

That would be taking work from my mom, who needs the cash to support her retarded son SredniVashtar.

Oh,SredniVashtar you are such a loving considerate son, making sure your mother get's the "action"

BTW, SredniVashtar  what's the reason for your retardation,..??
did your father had sex with your mother when she was pregnant with you in 8 month and his 'head' was pounding on your head and you got "damaged"

[PB the Deplorable]

... I'll just light a candle the next time I need something fixed.

Promise?