President Donald J. Trump

[Yorkshire pud]

So, he should've done a proper investigation before the proper investigation before you'd take him seriously?! Oh, that is some rich doublespeak from the British empire. 

Nope. He should have had his investigation before telling everyone what the results were. That's how it works. But as you're Trump's bitch, you accept anything he tells you.

[The King of Kings]

You need good evidence that there's some need for an investigation first. Not simply because DT doesn't like being a loser.

This is what I don't understand. 

If Trump does press on with an investigation and it is found there was no voter fraud, won't Trump look like an even bigger buffoon in your eyes and the eyes of others?  Wouldn't something like that be part of the ammunition that could be used against him if wanted to run again in four years?  Why would you be against Trump possibly making himself look like a bigger buffoon?  In your and other's ramblings you would think you would be happy that something as benign as a national voter fraud investiagtion would keep Trump busy and keep him away from doing something harmful.

Personally, I don't think that is what the investigation will find if it actually happens.  You obviously have the historical data showing rampant voter fraud in the past, you have a pretty credible poll asking illegal immigrants if they voted in US elections with 30% of them saying they did, not to mention the undercover video showing a high ranking DNC operative explaining how they inform illegal aliens what they need to vote which in the video is described as "a document showing a valid home address."

[Dr. MD MD]

Nope. He should have had his investigation before telling everyone what the results were. That's how it works. But as you're Trump's bitch, you accept anything he tells you.

No, I'll actually agree with you on his wording. He should've said he suspected it, not that there was yet. Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure most Americans are with him on this after witnessing the truly corrupt practices of the DNC as revealed in the Project Veritas videos. 

And let's not forget the rigging of the DNC convention itself. 

[Yorkshire pud]

This is what I don't understand. 

If Trump does press on with an investigation and it is found there was no voter fraud, won't Trump look like an even bigger buffoon in your eyes and the eyes of others?  Wouldn't something like that be part of the ammunition that could be used against him if wanted to run again in four years? 

Yes, and that's the point the Reps are pointing out too. It just reinforces the fact this is a vanity exercise. He isn't doing this because he knows or even thinks there was fraud. He"s doing it because he lost the popular vote. Still, its your money, he can spend it how he wants. 

[Jackstar]

If Drumpf does press on with an investigation and it is found there was no voter fraud, won't Drumpf look like an even bigger buffoon in your eyes and the eyes of others?

Voter fraud has already been conclusively proven.





"Voter fraud" means more than just ballot box stuffing--a lot more. The average U.S. citizen may not recognize that, but obviously the electorate does.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident" is as much a part of our national heritage, as "God save the Queen" is to the peasantry.

It's 2017. By this point, what difference does it make if adults wanna go back and check the process? What's the harm? Why are you hiding those cookies behind your back?


Are those even cookies?

[Luka Megurine]

He campaigned for electoral votes not the popular vote. He will win the popular vote easily in 2020 after he deports all the illegals and gasses all the jews and Makes America Great Again!

[Jackstar]

It just reinforces the fact this is a vanity exercise.

[Jackstar]

gasses all the jews

First he wants to fuck his daughter--now he wants to kill her? Make up your mind, sheople.

[albrecht]

There is nothing like Twitter on the planet. In a hundred years, there will still be a Twitter, after everyone who has ever even heard of Facebook is dead and gone.

The fact that it does not "make money" right now is wholly irrelevant. People are completely addicted to the Tweety--typically, when a historically free service dives behind a paywall, users flee in droves, but Twitter is different.

There is nothing else like Twitter on the planet, and there never will be. Don't let their sob story fool you.

I thought the MV Gab twitter-esque thing was the next big thing. Or the other one would co-opted 'Gab' and promises also to not censor speech?

[albrecht]

Nope. He should have had his investigation before telling everyone what the results were. That's how it works. But as you're Trump's bitch, you accept anything he tells you.

Says the guy who thinks convictions for voter fraud in Federal and State Courts in the US I've posted are "fake news." I wonder if this is also "fake news" since it is coming from the Crown's information media outfit and it was a Conservative and Muslim who was guilty?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7303606.stm
" A Tory councillor was found guilty of using bogus postal votes to ensure he was voted into office in Slough. Eshaq Khan beat Lydia Simmons, a former mayor of Slough, by 119 votes to win the council's Central ward in last year's local elections."

ps: ugh, who would want to live there, much less use fraud to become some politician to represent?

[GravitySucks]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

[Jackstar]

I thought the MV Gab twitter-esque thing was the next big thing. Or the other one would co-opted 'Gab' and promises also to not censor speech?

A clone of Twitter would still essentially be Twitter. Although I don't see a later competitor as having a chance of taking the mindshare away now. Think Xerox. Or eBay. There can only be one nexus place of such technologies as these, because their strength is built around the global conversation, whether auctions or shitposting.

Also, the gab.ai platform is a Zionist plot to enslave humanity, so, it's just not going to work out.

[Jackstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNI-CTACB3g&feature=em-lss


They broke out a new song for the new Iron Lady.

[SredniVashtar]

Finding evidence without performing an investigation is an impossibility...but you knew that! 

Just as you can't go mob-handed into someone's living room without 'probable cause' that a crime has taken place, you can't do anything you like simply because the  mood takes you. Trump's going round like a wounded elephant, being a  pain in the neck to his advisors because losing the popular vote is a burr on his arse. You'd need to present something significant that is then worthy of further investigation. That's how things happen in the real world. You don't just make something up out of a blue sky and expect people to take it seriously. If he has something to go on, other than what he's heard on Fox News, he only has to get his facts together and make his case.

[SredniVashtar]

This is what I don't understand. 

If Trump does press on with an investigation and it is found there was no voter fraud, won't Trump look like an even bigger buffoon in your eyes and the eyes of others?  Wouldn't something like that be part of the ammunition that could be used against him if wanted to run again in four years?  Why would you be against Trump possibly making himself look like a bigger buffoon?  In your and other's ramblings you would think you would be happy that something as benign as a national voter fraud investiagtion would keep Trump busy and keep him away from doing something harmful.

Personally, I don't think that is what the investigation will find if it actually happens.  You obviously have the historical data showing rampant voter fraud in the past, you have a pretty credible poll asking illegal immigrants if they voted in US elections with 30% of them saying they did, not to mention the undercover video showing a high ranking DNC operative explaining how they inform illegal aliens what they need to vote which in the video is described as "a document showing a valid home address."

One good reason why an investigation would be useless is that he wouldn't accept that no significant fraud had taken place, if they were the findings of any inquiry. If it didn't say what he wanted to hear then he'd quietly drop it. The last thing you'd hear from Trump's lips would be 'I guess I was wrong'. It's the same as with a new 9/11 investigation - if it doesn't say what they think it should say then they won't believe  it, so it's a waste of time.

[albrecht]

One good reason why an investigation would be useless is that he wouldn't accept that no significant fraud had taken place, if they were the findings of any inquiry. If it didn't say what he wanted to hear then he'd quietly drop it. The last thing you'd hear from Trump's lips would be 'I guess I was wrong'. It's the same as with a new 9/11 investigation - if it doesn't say what they think it should say then they won't believe  it, so it's a waste of time.

Whatever happened to that lawsuit by Lloyds against certain Saudi "royals," by the way?  I heard it was settled but no real news about it and due to the secretive and frame-work by Lloyds structure nothing about whatever settlement that was, maybe, done between the syndicate and the "royals" was made public but, maybe, some info leaked out in your country? Even rumor?
Asking for a friend.

[Jackstar]

Drumpf's going round like a wounded elephant

That's really just your opinion, but even if accurate--elephants are a protected species, you inhuman monster.



In other news: note the flags they're using with May. This new season of How The West Was Won is phenomenal!!

[Jackstar]

he wouldn't accept that no significant fraud had taken place

Significant fraud has already been shown to have taken place. What are you, Welsh?

[GravitySucks]

Just as you can't go mob-handed into someone's living room without 'probable cause' that a crime has taken place, you can't do anything you like simply because the  mood takes you. Trump's going round like a wounded elephant, being a  pain in the neck to his advisors because losing the popular vote is a burr on his arse. You'd need to present something significant that is then worthy of further investigation. That's how things happen in the real world. You don't just make something up out of a blue sky and expect people to take it seriously. If he has something to go on, other than what he's heard on Fox News, he only has to get his facts together and make his case.

There is reasonable cause to suspect that voter fraud has occured to some extent. A large % of the citizens in this country believe that voter fraud occurs and that it favors democrats.

An investigation is the only way to find evidence that can be used as leverage to fix the system to eliminate the systemic flaws.

Polls and academic models will never be believed because they don't provide "evidence " one way or another.

I cannot provide evidence that I voted legally in any election. If it was discovered that I had voted illegally, nobody  on the planet could provide evidence of who I voted for.

I don't know if the numbers are in the millions. Noone does. But with the electoral college it doesn't take a million votes to swing a state. Many states were won by less than 50k votes. Congressional races by far less. Al Franken is a senator because of issues with the voting process.  Look at the recount effort in Michigan. A large % of the precincts were thrown out of the recount because the ballot boxes did not match the poll records. All in precincts that heavily favored democrats.

[Jackstar]

Whatever happened to that lawsuit by Lloyds against certain Saudi "royals," by the way?  [...] Asking for a friend.

I went and Googled "Yemen on fire" and got tons of pictures of John Kerry, so... I'm guessing it's been back-burnered.

[albrecht]

There is reasonable cause to suspect that voter fraud has occured to some extent. A large % of the citizens in this country believe that voter fraud occurs and that it favors democrats.

An investigation is the only way to find evidence that can be used as leverage to fix the system to eliminate the systemic flaws.

Polls and academic models will never be believed because they don't provide "evidence " one way or another.

I cannot provide evidence that I voted legally in any election. If it was discovered that I had voted illegally, nobody  on the planet could provide evidence of who I voted for.

I don't know if the numbers are in the millions. Noone does. But with the electoral college it doesn't take a million votes to swing a state. Many states were won by less than 50k votes. Congressional races by far less. Al Franken is a senator because of issues with the voting process.  Look at the recount effort in Michigan. A large % of the precincts were thrown out of the recount because the ballot boxes did not match the poll records. All in precincts that heavily favored democrats.

Fake News
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/

[SredniVashtar]

There is reasonable cause to suspect that voter fraud has occured to some extent. A large % of the citizens in this country believe that voter fraud occurs and that it favors democrats.

A large percentage of your delightful countrypersons also believe in angels - should we hold an investigation into that as well?

[SredniVashtar]

That's really just your opinion, but even if accurate--elephants are a protected species, you inhuman monster.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope you drown in a vat of diabetic camel piss, after being sodomised by a gang of Berber tribesmen. With AIDS.

[GravitySucks]

Fake News
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/

That Michigan law is perplexing. If evidence of voter fraud is found during the recount, the original tally must stand. Doesn't make sense unless you own the process.

[GravitySucks]

A large percentage of your delightful countrypersons also believe in angels - should we hold an investigation into that as well?

Only if they are suspected of voting.

[SredniVashtar]

Only if they are suspected of voting.

Oh my, someone slept in the knife drawer.

Seriously,  though, you are asking people to prove a negative. Don't let a man-baby baffle you with his psychoses.

[GravitySucks]

Oh my, someone slept in the knife drawer.

How are you doing these days?  YP has been having to rouse the rabble all by himself these last few days.

[albrecht]

A large percentage of your delightful countrypersons also believe in angels - should we hold an investigation into that as well?

A percentage of your population not only believes in Djinn and angels but also in slitting throats of kaffirs (like that poor soldier in broad daylight on a city street) and not allowing girls to go to school. And throw in some populations who like witchcraft and kill children (I recall some years ago some small black boy found in a river.) I'm not talking about your official state church, which your Queen heads, both supported mainly by their vast, vast land-holdings, but the population you've allowed in. Enoch was right.

[SredniVashtar]

How are you doing these days?  YP has been having to rouse the rabble all by himself these last few days.

I'm alright. I thought he needed reinforcements so I'm doing my best to keep the flag flying.

[21st Century Man]

A large percentage of your delightful countrypersons also believe in angels - should we hold an investigation into that as well?

Voter fraud is fairly commonplace in certain parts of the country.  To say otherwise would be completely ignorant.  What do you think happens in states where no id is needed to vote?