President Donald J. Trump

[SciFiAuthor]

Hmmm, but ordinarily four very senior people don't go at the same time, and there is usually a gradual change over to the next one to take over. Often up to a year. Contacts to be introduced, trusts to be gained. If an entire board of a company left en masse, how do you think it would fair afterwards?

What the hell are ya talking about? Every new administration brings a new cabinet. That's a guaranteed changeover of a good 20 high level people per president as quickly as they are confirmed or appointed. That hasn't shown itself to be a problem in the past.

[SciFiAuthor]

ps: if a company performed as some government agencies, including the DOS, the share-holders would demand the firing of the Board. Sort of like how the voters voted, it would seem. "Drain the swamp" and all that. Realistically not many thought that would happen or will but I have to admit as one of those I'm surprised how Trump is actually acting on his promises and so far, so good, especially judging by his detractors. I still have concerns and some questions but so far, so good.

My big concern is Mnuchin and Yellen. One thing I don't think we'll get is an audit of the Fed or a reexamination of the monetary system. But, as far as everything else, so far so good indeed.

[Dr. MD MD]

What the hell are ya talking about?

He obviously has no idea. 

[Meister_000]

What the hell are ya talking about? Every new administration brings a new cabinet. That's a guaranteed changeover of a good 20 high level people per president as quickly as they are confirmed or appointed. That hasn't shown itself to be a problem in the past.

The State Department's entire senior management team just resigned.

Thurs Jan. 26, 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/?postshare=141485447229691&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.f42647b91752

[GravitySucks]

Trump silences government scientists with gag orders
Employees at Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Agriculture are affected]

The Guide To Donald Trump's War On The Press (So Far)
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/guide-donald-trumps-war-press-so-far/213290

With False Claims, Trump Attacks Media on Turnout and Intelligence Rift

President Trump's dangerous war on the media
The first war that President Trump has declared is a war against the news media.
In his first few days in the White House, the President and his advisers took direct aim at the reporters who are covering them. Standing in the headquarters of the CIA, President Trump decided to devote much of his remarks to assailing journalists.
"I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, right?"

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/25/veteran-federal-workers-fire-back-at-overblown-media-reports-of-a-trump-gag-order/

Note how the memo to the USDA went out from the desk of the Obama appointee.

[Dr. MD MD]

The State Department's entire senior management team just resigned.

It's really no big deal and in no way reflects badly on Trump.

[GravitySucks]

The State Department's entire senior management team just resigned.

4 people resigned.

[albrecht]

My big concern is Mnuchin and Yellen. One thing I don't think we'll get is an audit of the Fed or a reexamination of the monetary system. But, as far as everything else, so far so good indeed.

I agree there, have suspicion about those two also. But it is not a perfect world and will never be. So far, so good.

[Dr. MD MD]

4 people resigned.

You don't understand, Grav. You gotta keep pressing that panic button until everyone's as insane as you are! That seems to be the strategy of the left these days, anyway. 

[Yorkshire pud]

What the hell are ya talking about? Every new administration brings a new cabinet. That's a guaranteed changeover of a good 20 high level people per president as quickly as they are confirmed or appointed. That hasn't shown itself to be a problem in the past.

It isn't the cabinet though. These are career diplomats with many years experience, negotiating with different nations with complex issues. I know in Trumpworld, the Earth is very simple; after all he talks to himself, secure that he has a good brain. But because he also has a very low attention span, and is easily destracted by a mirror or twatter insults; talking to grown ups about grown up things away from golf courses and hotels might will take up too much of his precious time on twatter; therefore he needs senior diplomats to do it for him.

[Jackstar]

For God sakes man! The potential (global) consequences.

You're an idiot.

[GravitySucks]

You don't understand, Grav. You gotta keep pressing that panic button until everyone's as insane as you are! That seems to be the strategy of the left these days, anyway. 

At least they won't be going to work at the Clinton Global Initiative. I wonder if Kerry is setting up a foundation.

[Jackstar]

At the risk of continuing to doxx myself, I'll add this to the cauldron:


I've done work for the State Department. Those whiny bitches who quit will not be missed and were not important.

Listen to me now and believe me later, I don't give a shit.

[Jackstar]

career diplomats with many years experience

Yorkshiremen Lickspittles are clearly easily impressed.

[Meister_000]

4 people resigned.

Of 6 sub teams, 1 team "the (complete) *Management Team* (4 persons) poof!

"This is the org chart for the department right now, afaict. Blue Xs are positions not yet appointed. Red Xs are recent resignations."

[Kidnostad3]

Education:
- Occidental College
- Columbia University (BA)
- Harvard University (JD)

After graduating from Columbia University in 1983, he worked as a community organizer in Chicago. In 1988 Obama enrolled in Harvard Law School, where he was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. After graduation he became a civil rights attorney and professor, teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

And he has the same problem you do.  He won't release his transcripts.  Also, will you please provide me with a catelogue of articles he actually wrote while on the Staff of The Harvard Law Review.  How about also providing me with a list of peer reviewed scholarly papers that he wrote while an Associate  Professor   Take your time, I can wait.  You deal in sophistry.  Why don't you try being a little more circumspect.

[Jackstar]

Drumpf silences government scientists with gag orders

3) Get your bitch ass out to the kitchen, and get to work on some polenta for me.

[Jackstar]

Why don't you try being a little more circumspect.

see above, re: "degeneracy"

[Juan]

I wonder if Kerry is setting up a foundation.

I doubt he has the sense to do it. And he's probably too arrogant to listen to anyone else.

[GravitySucks]

Of 6 sub teams, 1 team "the (complete) *Management Team* (4 persons) poof!

"This is the org chart for the department right now, afaict. Blue Xs are positions not yet appointed. Red Xs are recent resignations."

You will never convince me that this is a bad thing.

[albrecht]

It isn't the cabinet though. These are career diplomats with many years experience, negotiating with different nations with complex issues. I know in Trumpworld, the Earth is very simple; after all he talks to himself, secure that he has a good brain. But because he also has a very low attention span, and is easily destracted by a mirror or twatter insults; talking to grown ups about grown up things away from golf courses and hotels might will take up too much of his precious time on twatter; therefore he needs senior diplomats to do it for him.

Who have done such a great job, what with the wars, the totally destabilized Middle East, the "refugee" invasion, importing people into our country that commit acts of terrorism, sending millions to places like Iran in ransom to help them get nukes, allowing N Korea to become nuclear, restarting the Cold War, etc. (Not all, of course, were a direct consequence of their actions but some of them were.)

[pyewacket]

Fact: Bill Clinton fired EVERYONE at the DOJ upon becoming president. What aren't you getting about that?!  :

Tell him what they did to the White House travel office and Billy Dale.

[Dr. MD MD]

Tell him what they did to the White House travel office and Billy Dale.

Now that really was deplorable! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxuwzBOY1Q4

[Meister_000]

You will never convince me that this is a bad thing.

From the WaPo article:

"Emptying of leadership in the management bureaus is more disruptive because those offices need to be led by people who know the department and have experience running its complicated bureaucracies. There’s no easy way to replace that via the private sector", said Wade.

“Diplomatic security, consular affairs, there’s just not a corollary that exists outside the department, and you can least afford a learning curve in these areas where issues can quickly become matters of life and death,” he said. “The muscle memory is critical. These retirements are a big loss. They leave a void. These are very difficult people to replace.”

"The officials who manage the building and thousands of overseas diplomatic posts are charged with taking care of Americans overseas and protecting U.S. diplomats risking their lives abroad. The career foreign service officers are crucial to those functions as well as to implementing the new president’s agenda, whatever it may be, Boucher said.

“You don’t run foreign policy by making statements, you run it with thousands of people working to implement programs every day,” Boucher said. “To undercut that is to undercut the institution."

[GravitySucks]

From the WaPo article:

"Emptying of leadership in the management bureaus is more disruptive because those offices need to be led by people who know the department and have experience running its complicated bureaucracies. There’s no easy way to replace that via the private sector", said Wade.


“Diplomatic security, consular affairs, there’s just not a corollary that exists outside the department, and you can least afford a learning curve in these areas where issues can quickly become matters of life and death,” he said. “The muscle memory is critical. These retirements are a big loss. They leave a void. These are very difficult people to replace.”


"The officials who manage the building and thousands of overseas diplomatic posts are charged with taking care of Americans overseas and protecting U.S. diplomats risking their lives abroad. The career foreign service officers are crucial to those functions as well as to implementing the new president’s agenda, whatever it may be, Boucher said.


“You don’t run foreign policy by making statements, you run it with thousands of people working to implement programs every day,” Boucher said. “To undercut that is to undercut the institution."

What part of never is so difficult for you to understand?

Asking for a friend.

[Meister_000]

What part of never is so difficult for you to understand?

Like I said, I'm starting to worry about you.

[albrecht]

From the WaPo article:

"Emptying of leadership in the management bureaus is more disruptive because those offices need to be led by people who know the department and have experience running its complicated bureaucracies. There’s no easy way to replace that via the private sector", said Wade.

“Diplomatic security, consular affairs, there’s just not a corollary that exists outside the department, and you can least afford a learning curve in these areas where issues can quickly become matters of life and death,” he said. “The muscle memory is critical. These retirements are a big loss. They leave a void. These are very difficult people to replace.”

"The officials who manage the building and thousands of overseas diplomatic posts are charged with taking care of Americans overseas and protecting U.S. diplomats risking their lives abroad. The career foreign service officers are crucial to those functions as well as to implementing the new president’s agenda, whatever it may be, Boucher said.

“You don’t run foreign policy by making statements, you run it with thousands of people working to implement programs every day,” Boucher said. “To undercut that is to undercut the institution."

WaPo is an insider, defender of the status-quo, inside-the-beltway, no government agency or program is ever bad, etc as it gets. And is owned by Amazon-founder and ultimate "liberal" Bezos whose had a bit of a feud with Trump on some issues. Not that they don't have good stories sometimes but clearly have an editorial slant to "the bigger the government, the better."

For example people Trump appointed, like Rex, have experience running bureaucracies FAR larger than the DOS. (Exxon-Mobil has, roughly, twice the number of employees and this ignores off-shoot companies, downstream franchises, joint-ventures, etc) and makes deals with, has presence in, etc a vast number of countries.

[GravitySucks]

Like I said, I'm starting to worry about you.

Each of those 4 have departments, staff and a deputy. Life goes on. Bureaucrats maintain. Like this:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/doe-employees-scrubbed-climate-change-from-agency-files-to-fool-trump/

[Yorkshire pud]

Who have done such a great job, what with the wars, the totally destabilized Middle East, the "refugee" invasion, importing people into our country that commit acts of terrorism, sending millions to places like Iran in ransom to help them get nukes, allowing N Korea to become nuclear, restarting the Cold War, etc. (Not all, of course, were a direct consequence of their actions but some of them were.)

Actually no, but hey, Trump knows more..Much more. He has gold plated clasps on the seat belts of his private jets!

[Dr. MD MD]

Each of those 4 have departments, staff and a deputy. Life goes on. Bureaucrats maintain. Like this:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/doe-employees-scrubbed-climate-change-from-agency-files-to-fool-trump/

So, government employees are now admitting to intentionally dragging their heels. I guess this is what Reagan meant by government is the problem.