President Donald J. Trump

[PB the Deplorable]

... Those of us who still have critical thinking skills can sort the wheat from the chaff.

Yes, we can

[GravitySucks]

Yes, we can

Some need to report for their remedial chaff recognition training though. 😎

[albrecht]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2017/01/20/trumps-stealth-health-plan-could-be-medicare-for-all/

I wouldn't be necessarily against a 'single-payer' system (save $ by putting companies that wished to be out of the heathcare business and less paperwork and HR and focus on their actual business, limit the inflation caused by insurance, not let the ER be the choice for basic or pre-natal care, etc) but would rather the States implement it (like Medicaid, etc) but only using the tax-base of those States and allowing companies or whomever to to provide private insurance, private hospitals, and not forcing doctors to accept this new Medicare, etc. Experiment with different levels and ideas at the State level and other States could implement once studies are done and how it works. I would also add some tort reforms, general bargaining for drugs, and also allow States to decide 'what is covered' (I don't want my tax dollars paying for some unnecessary face-lift and junk-clipping for some Hollywood tranny, for example.)

[K_Dubb]

Dream on, fag!  :

You should write an ode to Hillary. 

She isn't worth even a limerick.  I'm just hoping for a good show, and that would be a great one.  All the vile toadies spun like tops hahaha such glee 

[PB the Deplorable]

This comes from fascist playbooks throughout the ages. They go for anyone who might question their viewpoint - anyone with any academic qualifications, any sort of expertise, anyone who wears glasses. All you are saying is 'I have a bunch of anecdotal stuff I can't back up, but I'm going to believe it anyway'. Let's hope the law courts don't adopt your sort of 'reasoning'.

The Fascists are also known for Fake News.  Like, you know, Goebbels.

The idea is to discern who is lying.  So when the unemployment statistics leave out anyone no longer drawing an unemployment check, its manipulated.  When those reporting the inflation rate don't include food, energy, housing - the things we spend the most on - it's manipulated.  When Obama changes the way deportees are counted - now including those turned around at the border as ''deported'' in order to disguise the fact that he wasn't deporting anyone - it's manipulated.  When we're given polling results that over-represent those whose opinions are what's wanted, it's manipulated.

When polls and studies are flat out made up, it's manipulated.  For example a ''study'' stating there's ''no evidence'' of voting fraud.  Well, with the system set up the way it is, what evidence would there be?  What would they ''study''? 

Since we have a massive illegal immigrant population - who have been told by their government that the southwest US was stolen from their country, and whose government encourages them to come here and helps them do so - a number of left wing NGOs and GOs who cater to them, and a party that encourages them to vote, how is it that's not suspicious?  How is it we're just supposed to trust someone putting it out? 

[Dr. MD MD]

Maybe Trump should start using the slogan ''Yes, we can''. 

The last guy didn't get a chance to use it much.

He wasn't really lying. He just left out the important part. The full original statement was Yes we can get elected! All that other stuff you want me to do my corporate masters would never allow. So, good luck with that! but it didn't test well so they just kept parsing it until it did. 

[PB the Deplorable]

The onus is on the one making the claim to back it up with evidence...

Yes, exactly.  That's the point of an investigation.

What is it the Ds are so afraid of?

[albrecht]

He wasn't really lying. He just left out the important part. The full original statement was Yes we can get elected! All that other stuff you want me to do my corporate masters would never allow. So, good luck with that! but it didn't test well so they just kept parsing it until it did. 

And the media, even "alternative" media, never really mentioned what anybody could remember that the character Obama stole that "Yes We Can" from Cesar Chavez who, despite his obvious leftist sympathies, had some real grievances at the time (worse now sometimes due to the open-border and working conditions.) Obama, the name he was using then, simply translated and co-opted the slogan: "Si Se Puede" (now also used by illegals in their protests and riots.) He never, correct me if I'm wrong, attributed it. So plagiarized sort of. Sort of like his early campaign posters did (stole a photo from the AP and manipulated it.)
http://www.ethicsingraphicdesign.org/test-for-legalities/

[PB the Deplorable]

It's really up to the Mexican government to stop their people from traveling to the border in order to cross into the US illegally.  It's up to them to put an end to the gangs and cartels creating massive corruption, causing massive violence, and having it spill over into our country.

The threat of the US military securing a 150-200 mile buffer zone on their side of the border ought to make it clear we aren't playing around anymore. 

[PB the Deplorable]

... Obama, the name he was using then, simply translated and co-opted the slogan: "Si Se Puede" (now also used by illegals in their protests and riots.) He never, correct me if I'm wrong, attributed it. So plagiarized sort of. Sort of like his early campaign posters did (stole a photo from the AP and manipulated it.) ...

No wonder he liked ''Borrowin' Joe'' Biden.  That was always a puzzler.

[Jackstar]

Hey Jackstar, I think you're wrong about Tucker Carlson.  I've been watching him for a while now and so far he's 20 for 20.  He has laid claim to more liberal ass than Barney Frank.  He's a brilliant polemicist and reminds me some of William F. Buckley as a boy.  He's gonna be a rockstar.

How am I wrong? He's a transparent mouthpiece shill for the Zog, is my contention, which is wholly compatible with everything you just stated. You and I agree.

HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US

[albrecht]

No wonder he liked ''Borrowin' Joe'' Biden.  That was always a puzzler.

I think it was just because Obama, the name he was using at that point in his mysterious life, liked that Biden said he was the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." (Although most of all that was a lie.)

[Meister_000]

And the media, even "alternative" media, never really mentioned what anybody could remember that the character Obama stole that "Yes We Can" from Cesar Chavez . . .

And, "Make America Great Again", is a campaign slogan originating (at least) with Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign -- [douchebag]

[albrecht]

How am I wrong? He's a transparent mouthpiece shill for the Zog, is my contention, which is wholly compatible with everything you just stated. You and I agree.

HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US

Not to be pedantic, but shouldn't it be ZOG, or even, Z.O.G.? (Will consult my "New York Times Manual of Style and Usage," not the Oxford one, on this.) 

[PB the Deplorable]

And, "Make America Great Again", is a campaign slogan originating (at least) with Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign -- [douchebag]

Yes, we can

[Meister_000]

Normal Service will Resume Shortly

[Jackstar]

There is no Dana--only ZOG.

[albrecht]

And, "Make America Great Again", is a campaign slogan originating (at least) with Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign -- [douchebag]

In English, (Clinton also used.) But Obama stole from a poor, Hispanic farm-worker organizer. As a "community organizer" Obama would be well aware of the phrase (he did a great job organizing them- the Chicago neighborhoods and demographics he "organized" lead the world in low crime rates, employment rates, school test marks, lowest drop-out rates, no gangs, and lead the nation- and the world- in general good health and safe communities. An example for us all! Si Se Puede! )

[albrecht]

There is no Dana--only ZOG.

Ah, I thought you were referencing the "fake news" "alt-right" other 80's version of ZOG? Or was GBII also doing so? 

ps: with regard to another Zog, you know Albanians have a book detailing how all the feuds should be handled and it still is in use, apparently.

[Kidnostad3]

And the media, even "alternative" media, never really mentioned what anybody could remember that the character Obama stole that "Yes We Can" from Cesar Chavez who, despite his obvious leftist sympathies, had some real grievances at the time (worse now sometimes due to the open-border and working conditions.) Obama, the name he was using then, simply translated and co-opted the slogan: "Si Se Puede" (now also used by illegals in their protests and riots.) He never, correct me if I'm wrong, attributed it. So plagiarized sort of. Sort of like his early campaign posters did (stole a photo from the AP and manipulated it.)
http://www.ethicsingraphicdesign.org/test-for-legalities/

Not to be a pain in the ass nit picker but "Si Se Puede" would translate to "Yes they can" or "Yes you can" depending if you are using the formal Ustedes.  Yes we can would be "Si Nosotros Podemos."  Same idea and definitely a knockoff.

[Kidnostad3]

How am I wrong? He's a transparent mouthpiece shill for the Zog, is my contention, which is wholly compatible with everything you just stated. You and I agree.

HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US

Fair enough.  I just like it that he leaves libs sputtering.  Who he's shilling for is mox nix.

[Kidnostad3]

And, "Make America Great Again", is a campaign slogan originating (at least) with Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign -- [douchebag]

That's President douche bag to you shit bird!

[Meister_000]

In English, (Clinton also used.) But Obama stole from a poor, Hispanic farm-worker organizer. As a "community organizer" Obama would be well aware of the phrase (he did a great job organizing them- the Chicago neighborhoods and demographics he "organized" lead the world in low crime rates, employment rates, school test marks, lowest drop-out rates, no gangs, and lead the nation- and the world- in general good health and safe communities. An example for us all! Si Se Puede! )

Ya well, no doubt "getting the Hispanic vote out" was on the agenda, so if anyone felt it would "offend" the Hispanics in any way, even if they did recignize it from "somewhere", they would have avoided it I'm sure -- next!

[albrecht]

Not to be a pain in the ass nit picker but "Si Se Puede" would translate to "Yes they can" or "Yes you can" depending if you are using the formal Ustedes.  Yes we can would be "Si Nosotros Podemos."  Same idea and definitely a knockoff.

Ha, thanks. Please always correct me. That is how one learns. I never heard that explained or translated. (I don't know Spanish. Though I have a relative who does- though his wife jokes, after a vacation in Mexico, when I said he does: "yeah, he knows Spanish, but no use there. I guess he could ask the bartender to drop that lumber there and the wall goes there, cement over there, etc." Ha.)  Having said that the Mexicans I know do work hard and I've seen them on sites. The problem is, now, it is not about work but retaking our land (and/or Mexico is so violent bringing their family here, which is a feed-back loop which further destabilizes Mexico. Honest people, capital not returned there (in the past they would always send money back and not bring children family- which eat up our schools and hospitals, etc.) Also, never hire the young ones. They even say this. They don't want to work and don't have skills. There also is a lot of "racism" between Hispanics, believe it or not. The more South or "Indian" you go the more "jokes"- or worse. And that is in the honest, working ones- I'm not talking about the gangs and the fights in schools and neighborhoods or cartel stuff.    Schools WANT the illegal kids because it is all about "head count" for Federal grants. Not performance, so good people, even Hispanic, if they can, move out, go private, go home-school, go parochial, or move to "good neighborhoods"- so our public schools fail even more. Again a feed-back loop.  We now are going to provide even DINNER to kids.

[Kidnostad3]

Ya well, no doubt "getting the Hispanic vote out" was on the agenda, so if anyone felt it would "offend" the Hispanics in any way, even if they did recignize it from "somewhere", they would have avoided it I'm sure -- next!

I'm still waiting to compare your educational background to Trump's.  I'm betting you're a GED man.

[PB the Deplorable]

Ya well, no doubt "getting the Hispanic vote out" was on the agenda, so if anyone felt it would "offend" the Hispanics in any way, even if they did recignize it from "somewhere", they would have avoided it I'm sure -- next!

Of the 1970 US Mexican-American population, how many of the adults at the time were still alive in 2008? 

How many of them would be ''offended'' at the use of a UFW slogan being used in Obama's campaign?  Despite great effort by the Left to divide us, most Mexican-Americans from that time aren't interested in race politics, and continuously finding ''offence''.

[PB the Deplorable]

I'm still waiting to compare your educational background to Trump's.  I'm betting you're a GED man.

Has NPR been defunded yet?

Yes, we can

[albrecht]

I'm still waiting to compare your educational background to Trump's.  I'm betting you're a GED man.

Did you know that they even "dumbed down" the GED? Yep, I heard a show on it on NPR, no less  , a year ago or so. It was getting "too hard" and "cultural issues" and also now is being "out-sourced" often. It is not only actual schools manipulating educational marks for social reasons and "dumbing down." Keep that in mind while hiring or sending your family to school. Sad, actually.

[albrecht]

Has NPR been defunded yet?

Yes, we can

Even the CFR  has reported that the Smith-Mundt Act has been repealed (well, modified) several years ago. Having said that, maybe the NPR etc stuff that resulted from that actually benefited for Trump and other news sites? Maybe? Still I don't like the idea and should be put back into law.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

[Kidnostad3]

Ha, thanks. Please always correct me. That is how one learns. I never heard that explained or translated. (I don't know Spanish. Though I have a relative who does- though his wife jokes, after a vacation in Mexico, when I said he does: "yeah, he knows Spanish, but no use there. I guess he could ask the bartender to drop that lumber there and the wall goes there, cement over there, etc." Ha.)  Having said that the Mexicans I know do work hard and I've seen them on sites. The problem is, now, it is not about work but retaking our land (and/or Mexico is so violent bringing their family here, which is a feed-back loop which further destabilizes Mexico. Honest people, capital not returned there (in the past they would always send money back and not bring children family- which eat up our schools and hospitals, etc.) Also, never hire the young ones. They even say this. They don't want to work and don't have skills. There also is a lot of "racism" between Hispanics, believe it or not. The more South or "Indian" you go the more "jokes"- or worse. And that is in the honest, working ones- I'm not talking about the gangs and the fights in schools and neighborhoods or cartel stuff.    Schools WANT the illegal kids because it is all about "head count" for Federal grants. Not performance, so good people, even Hispanic, if they can, move out, go private, go home-school, go parochial, or move to "good neighborhoods"- so our public schools fail even more. Again a feed-back loop.  We now are going to provide even DINNER to kids.

I speak Spanish well enough to amuse native speakers like my lawn guy and my pool guy.  What you say about Indians is true in most Latín American countries. The Indians in Panama have a right to squat and farm on unused government land wherever they want.  It's not uncommon in Chiriqui Province to see their crude shanties with no electricity and no running water nestled in a spot up on a mountain that commands a million dollar view.  They farm land that is virtually vertical but they produce a lot of vegetable crops which they sell readily.   Best I can tell they are happy with their lives and pretty much stay to themselves although you frequently see the women in their colorful dress with their kids in tow around the various stores and businesses.  I don't think it's a matter of them being ridiculed or mistreated but more of a case of mestizos and people of purer Spanish descent looking down their noses at the Indians.