Midnight In The Desert

[Faustina]

Friedman? I thought he guy was up there in age (hell, all the notable ones are!) when I started getting interested in UFOs. I'm sure he's rather stuck in his ways.

My guess is that he's in his mid-70s.

--- Wrong. 

From Wiki:  "Stanton Friedman.
Born   July 29, 1934 (age 81)."

[boxman]

Why was there a replay?? Has the show finally folded?

[Faustina]

Why was there a replay?? Has the show finally folded?

There was a replay.  News of the demise of MITD has been greatly exaggerated.

[Morgus]

Why was there a replay?? Has the show finally folded?

Possibly the major wind storm last night caused internet outages in the area today?

[Faustina]

Possibly the major wind storm last night caused internet outages in the area today?

That or she was sick.  Sadly, I expect there's a mundane answer to the mystery of tonight's replay. 

[boxman]

That or she was sick.  Sadly, I expect there's a mundane answer to the mystery of tonight's replay.

Still kind of a bullshit move to not announce that.
And if Art actually cared he would have used this great opportunity to do a favor back and keep the chair warm for Heather like she has now done for months for him.

[PaulAtreides]

Why was there a replay?? Has the show finally folded?

I don't know why there was a replay, but it's piss poor that the reason is not given on the website.

[3OctaveFart]

I heard that they used to keep a fan under Larry King's desk, blowing away from the guest, because Larry is so flatulent. Apparently it was a big joke at CNN.

One-hundred-percent true.

Moreover: He gets pissed off if you laugh about it. Like if he rips ass and you giggle, as farts never do stop being funny, it really angers him.

[Jackstar]

If you mostly ignore Noory [...], listening to c2c can still be a worthwhile experience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome


I don't have anything against C2C. George Knapp is a brilliant jewel! George Noory is pond scum.

[Chris Lightoast]

Still kind of a bullshit move to not announce that.
And if Art actually cared he would have used this great opportunity to do a favor back and keep the chair warm for Heather like she has now done for months for him.

Agreed. But yeah if Art couldnt sit in, he will NEVER be sitting in. My feeling is Heather uses the occasional Art sit in merely as a shameless hook. Also, if Keith could go ahead and post the "replay" he coulda mentioned why. He probably giggled to his evil self about not giving a reason !

[Uncle Duke]

I don't know why there was a replay, but it's piss poor that the reason is not given on the website.

And people still pay for their TT membership??  I cancelled and sent that money to MV.

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

A little bird told me that a guest cancelled and she didn't want to deal with another open lines this week.

[Chronaut]

Tue Feb 2 â€" Jose Escamilla â€" Invisible Entities

Jose Escamilla has been involved in the research and investigations of an aerial phenomenon he discovered in 1994, called Rods.

Hmmm...I think I'd rather be branded across the forehead with the word "jackass" than have my name associated with "rods" and/or "orbs" aka "insects" and "dust."

Rather than leading with that nonsense, he should just delete it from his bio because the rest sounds far more promising:

His expertise as a film and video editor of over 30 years has made him a world renown figure in the world of UFOs, The Moon and the Paranormal. His film UFO: The Greatest Story Ever Denied has gained international acclaim as the best documentary film ever made on UFOs. Kevin Smith, Director of Clerks and Dogma; says, “UFO is the Loose Change of UFO Documentaries”​, Michael Luckman, author of “Alien Rock”​ calls it “the Fahrenheit 911 of UFO documentaries.” Known for his highly controversial films, Jose Escamilla has lectured at conferences in the UK, Mexico and the US. He has numerous radio and television appearances worldwide.

[Richard Groyper]

One-hundred-percent true.

Moreover: He gets pissed off if you laugh about it. Like if he rips ass and you giggle, as farts never do stop being funny, it really angers him.

A '30 Octave Fart,' perhaps?   

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Hmmm...I think I'd rather be branded across the forehead with the word "jackass" than have my name associated with "rods" and/or "orbs" aka "insects" and "dust."

Rather than leading with that nonsense, he should just delete it from his bio because the rest sounds far more promising:

They really scraped the bottom of this thing to book that asshat.  He was thoroughly discredited by that "rods" twaddle he was peddling a few years ago.

[Uncle Duke]

They really scraped the bottom of this thing to book that asshat.  He was thoroughly discredited by that "rods" twaddle he was peddling a few years ago.

Hey Ghost, is the rod guy the one who sounds like Jose Jiminez?

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Hey Ghost, is the rod guy the one who sounds like Jose Jiminez?

Geez, it's been so long since I've heard him I can't remember, Duke. His name is Jose Escamilla, though, so maybe that's what made you think of Bill Dana.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Yeah this is that guy.  Jesus...

This may be the most discredited guest in C2C history. This is the rods guy who perpetrated all that nonsense. His stuff got completely busted. So Art offered the chance to come on the air and explain himself. This guy supposedly told Art off the air he was busted and that it looks like he was wrong, then when he got on the air with Art he completely 180ed his story lying through his teeth realizing his woo career was done if he admitted it publicly. Pretty sure a stunned Art banned him after that.

[Kolchak]

From RationalWiki:

In 2010, Escamilla was due to premier a re-edited version of his film at the Chinese movie theatre in Hollywood. However, his backers withdrew at the last minute â€" presumably having been confronted with what they were putting their names to â€" forcing him to cancel the premier and leaving him in serious debt.

In fact, the situation is so bad, that he has resorted to pleading for donations both on his TBN Films page,[6] as well as on his Facebook page,[7] where he appears to swing between begging for money and blaming Dr. Steven Greer, founder of the Disclosure Project, for his failures.

[Chronaut]

They really scraped the bottom of this thing to book that asshat.  He was thoroughly discredited by that "rods" twaddle he was peddling a few years ago.

This is what I detest about so many people in the "paranormal" community.  When faced with incontrovertible proof that he was wrong about the whole "rod" thing, he could've just admitted that he was wrong, and moved on, and although slightly tarnished by the whole affair he would've earned a measure of respect for having the cojones to admit an honest mistake.

Instead, he doubles down on the dipshit factor, and we still have to hear about "rods" and "orbs" decades after they've been debunked.  It's bullshit like this that saps any measure of credibility from the entire field of paranormal inquiry.

[Showroom Dummy]

i bet Chris Carter saw your avatar and was like   thats perfect for last night episode of x files   

[Kolchak]

i bet Chris Carter saw your avatar and was like   thats perfect for last night episode of x files

He was clearly lurking during his interview with Heather and was won over by my insightful comments.

[Showroom Dummy]

He was clearly lurking during his interview with Heather and was won over by my insightful comments.

LMAO     when i saw the show last night  i thought of you  cause i'm so used to seeing  the avatar/name  now       

[theONE]

A little bird told me that a guest cancelled and she didn't want to deal with another open lines this week.

if that was the real reason, than that was a very-VERY cowardly of Heather,
she said before that she has a  "balls of steel"  ,I guess they melted.....

[Gruntled]

This is what I detest about so many people in the "paranormal" community.  When faced with incontrovertible proof that he was wrong about the whole "rod" thing, he could've just admitted that he was wrong, and moved on, and although slightly tarnished by the whole affair he would've earned a measure of respect for having the cojones to admit an honest mistake.

Instead, he doubles down on the dipshit factor, and we still have to hear about "rods" and "orbs" decades after they've been debunked.  It's bullshit like this that saps any measure of credibility from the entire field of paranormal inquiry.

Been out of touch with the paranormal genre for awhile but I remember the "rods, orbs" thing.
It's been debunked?
Good as it was a bit disconcerting.
By the way Chronaut, your Avatar is inducing Rorscharch [sp?] patterns to my less than optimal eyes.
What is it? Make it stop.

[Richard Groyper]

if that was the real reason, than that was a very-VERY cowardly of Heather,
she said before that she has a  "balls of steel"  ,I guess they melted.....

Just like the beams in the twin towers.

[Element 115]

Just like the beams in the twin towers.

Yes, aluminothermic explosives like thermite tends to do that to steel beams.

[Richard Groyper]

Yes, aluminothermic explosives like thermite tends to do that to steel beams.

Down rabbit hole we go!

[theONE]

Just like the beams in the twin towers.

that was great interview with that women /don't remember her name/ ,she was engineer ,or scientist
that give solid info how steel could not melt just from jet fuel.

[Chronaut]

Been out of touch with the paranormal genre for awhile but I remember the "rods, orbs" thing.
It's been debunked?
Good as it was a bit disconcerting.
By the way Chronaut, your Avatar is inducing Rorscharch [sp?] patterns to my less than optimal eyes.
What is it? Make it stop.

"Rods" are just time-lapsed images of bugs (or even birds in some cases).  When the shutter speed is fast enough you can see them clearly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE3Jl8Kw6xA

"Orbs" are just small particles/objects/bugs in the air that are out of focus, and usually brightly illuminated by a camera flash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzUKKCSBk8s

My avatar is an animation based on 12 Monkeys - one of my all-time favorite time travel movies.