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Midnight In The Desert

Started by Falkie2013, December 11, 2015, 11:13:40 PM

Chronaut

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2016, 09:20:33 PM
And would this lead you to consider that it might be 100% true?

Absolutely not:  most of Lazar's story is bullshit, including his background.  But it appears that he was recruited as an operative to tell a fictional story about UFOs and Area 51 as window dressing, to get the word out to black world researchers that superheavy stable isotopes hold promise for novel defense applications.  That interpretation fits the fact and lies together most coherently, imo.

Curandero81

Quote from: Juan Cena on January 25, 2016, 09:38:10 PM
Is this the guy who died after trying to get anal sex from a horse?

Dude should have learned from Catherine the Great's death.

heather

are you payin' attention ???????

Quote from: Curandero81 on January 25, 2016, 09:36:48 PM
yea

and what are you doin'. BUCKWHEAT ??

Just looking for white women to rape.


Juan Cena

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 25, 2016, 09:35:31 PM
I thought it was PonyBoySunset

That reminds me how disappointed that that Outsiders show on WGN wasn't based on the SE Hinton book.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:38:14 PM
Absolutely not:  most of Lazar's story is bullshit, including his background.  But it appears that he was recruited as an operative to tell a fictional story about UFOs and Area 51 as window dressing, to get the word out to black world researchers that superheavy stable isotopes hold promise for novel defense applications.  That interpretation fits the fact and lies together most coherently, imo.

Gotta wonder if those isotopes do hold promise though. They're going to be really heavy.

Curandero81

Quote from: The King of Kings on January 25, 2016, 09:39:39 PM
Just looking for white women to rape.



quick

try the horse farm in Washington

quick !!!!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:38:14 PM
Absolutely not:  most of Lazar's story is bullshit, including his background.  But it appears that he was recruited as an operative to tell a fictional story about UFOs and Area 51 as window dressing, to get the word out to black world researchers that superheavy stable isotopes hold promise for novel defense applications.  That interpretation fits the fact and lies together most coherently, imo.

And what about the pre-photoshop era video of the Area 51 test vehicles they shot at the time?

Chronaut

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 25, 2016, 09:33:41 PM
I still find myself looking for luminous eggs. 😎

AND I NEVER LOOK OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT

According the Dr. MD MD's article, that part was stolen from a mystic named Yogi Ramacharaka.  I've never heard of him, but maybe he's above board.  Castaneda was a mixed bag of stolen material, but some of the material he stole was real esoteric mysticism - not much, but at least a few of those techniques are the real deal.

Juan Cena

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:38:14 PM
Absolutely not:  most of Lazar's story is bullshit, including his background.  But it appears that he was recruited as an operative to tell a fictional story about UFOs and Area 51 as window dressing, to get the word out to black world researchers that superheavy stable isotopes hold promise for novel defense applications.  That interpretation fits the fact and lies together most coherently, imo.

The gov. trying to screw with black scientists? That's just wrong.

Curandero81

Quote from: The King of Kings on January 25, 2016, 09:39:39 PM
Just looking for white women to rape.


hey

BUCKWHEAT

you aren't a Syrian refugee are ya ??????


weeberwubber

Quote from: Juan Cena on January 25, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
You mean NPR

Probably! Rarely have listened to that. If those two old car guys were NPR then yes. But the way Keith talks and phrases the commercials he sounds just like the local PBS tv station hucking for donations in between Bob Ross episodes.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: weeberwubber on January 25, 2016, 09:42:56 PM
Probably! Rarely have listened to that. If those two old car guys were NPR then yes. But the way Keith talks and phrases the commercials he sounds just like the local PBS tv station hucking for donations in between Bob Ross episodes.

I've said it before, he missed his calling. He should have a carpentry show with Bob Vila on PBS.

Chronaut

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 25, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
Gotta wonder if those isotopes do hold promise though. They're going to be really heavy.

More importantly, they're going to be dumbbell-shaped, and have an intrinsic quantum spin - that opens the door to evanescent nuclear gravitational radiation...

Robert

Quote from: weeberwubber on January 25, 2016, 09:42:56 PMIf those two old car guys were NPR
They bounced between NPR & APM/PRI/APR/MPR IIRC.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:44:28 PM
More importantly, they're going to be dumbbell-shaped, and have an intrinsic quantum spin - that opens the door to evanescent nuclear gravitational radiation...

micro-singularities?  ???

Donald Noory

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
According the Dr. MD MD's article, that part was stolen from a mystic named Yogi Ramacharaka.  I've never heard of him, but maybe he's above board.  Castaneda was a mixed bag of stolen material, but some of the material he stole was real esoteric mysticism - not much, but at least a few of those techniques are the real deal.

Yogi Ramacharaka was really a guy named William Walker Atkinson who sold tons of spiritual/new-thought books.

Juan Cena

We seriously need Heather to interview Jason the Horse after this.

Donald Noory

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
According the Dr. MD MD's article, that part was stolen from a mystic named Yogi Ramacharaka.  I've never heard of him, but maybe he's above board.  Castaneda was a mixed bag of stolen material, but some of the material he stole was real esoteric mysticism - not much, but at least a few of those techniques are the real deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_Atkinson

Chronaut

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2016, 09:35:25 PM
I'm not sure if that's the article that goes into this but it was more his behavior as a mind-controlling cult leader with a bunch of women in his life that I find disturbing. There's always been talk that the books were fiction but I only found out about this aspect in the last couple years.

A friend tipped me off to the Don Juan Papers about halfway through, but that's how I learned that he sometimes stole material from genuine mysticism.  Only later did I learn how to eliminate the middle man, but his books introduced people like us to novel perspectives, so they're useful as a deconditioning agent, imo.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Chronaut on January 25, 2016, 09:48:07 PM
A friend tipped me off to the Don Juan Papers about halfway through, but that's how I learned that he sometimes stole material from genuine mysticism.  Only later did I learn how to eliminate the middle man, but his books introduced people like us to novel perspectives, so they're useful as a deconditioning agent, imo.

You know, in spite of everything I now know about them and him, I'd still recommend them. They're excellent books....the first 3-6, anyway.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2016, 09:49:55 PM
You know, in spite of everything I now know about them and him, I'd still recommend them. They're excellent books....the first 3-6, anyway.

They are as good as any science fiction if you just suspend disbelief and wonder what if.

Juan Cena

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 25, 2016, 09:44:18 PM
I've said it before, he missed his calling. He should have a carpentry show with Bob Vila on PBS.

Keith Rowland and Bob Vila in This Old Haunted House.

Curandero81

contrary to popular belief

heather during a time out at the horse farm

did prepare for tonight's show

Robert

Seems ridiculous to me that you could practice a skill like skiing in a dream, because since the way the world reacts is all in your head, what makes you think the skills would be at all realistic?  So I think the people reporting it actually got their skills elsewise.

Chronaut

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2016, 09:41:44 PM
And what about the pre-photoshop era video of the Area 51 test vehicles they shot at the time?

I'm not sure what you're talking about.  Area 51 is a real base with real experimental aircraft and research programs.  But I don't think Lazar's UFO claims are real.  That part of his story makes for a brilliant dispersal system though - that's how they got the payload info about 115 out to everybody.  People don't give our intelligence agencies enough credit:  those fuckers are really clever/sneaky.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Robert on January 25, 2016, 09:52:39 PM
Seems ridiculous to me that you could practice a skill like skiing in a dream, because since the way the world reacts is all in your head, what makes you think the skills would be at all realistic?  So I think the people reporting it actually got their skills elsewise.

It reinforces muscle memory.

Curandero81

????

phone sex worker ??

who would you lucid dream about for tips ?


Robert

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 25, 2016, 09:53:37 PMIt reinforces muscle memory.
Memory of how to move in a way that works in your dreams, sure.  But that's not the same as a memory of how to move when you're awake.

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