Midnight In The Desert

[chefist]

It's about plausibility. It's that simple. If you can build an interstellar spacecraft, and have the ability to spend centuries crossing relativistic space to get here, then how plausible would it be to expose yourself to getting downed by lightning? Especially on a planet where the primitive locals have already figured out the technology needed to keep their own airplanes from being downed by lightning. Interstellar aliens wouldn't be that stupid, they would be extremely powerful and outright awe-striking in their technology. Dumb stories are dumb stories MD, and as Roswell ages it becomes increasingly dumb.

And fuck "shiek". This is the reality of the universe, special and general relativity, and how aliens would actually behave as opposed to someone's made up shtick to sell books to the gullible 40 years ago.

Agreed. I've always made this same assertion. According to "UFologists", these things are falling out of the sky like rain. If they could get here, they would have the technology and procedures to prevent a catastrophic failure of their systems. Their failure rate would be statistically close to zero...just as our airline system approaches this same ideal...

Also, they would have triple and quadruple redundancies in place on their platforms...millennia of trial, error and experience to prevent Matt Brazel shooting you down with his double barrel shotgun (how I choose to see the Roswell story...Jed Clampett style).

[Dr. MD MD]

Agreed. I've always made this same assertion. According to "UFologists", these things are falling out of the sky like rain. If they could get here, they would have the technology and procedures to prevent a catastrophic failure of their systems. Their failure rate would be statistically close to zero...just as our airline system approaches this same ideal...

Also, they would have triple and quadruple redundancies in place on their platforms...millennia of trial, error and experience to prevent Matt Brazel shooting you down with his double barrel shotgun (how I choose to see the Roswell story...Jed Clampett style).

So, similarlly, you can only see advanced as perfect. God complex much? :

[HumanBeing]

Dave did mention that a couple of guest hosts were contacted, for times he can't do the show. I believe Tim was mentioned as one of them.

Being the curious sort, I wonder who else is on that list. Howard Hughes, perhaps?

That's great. Heather fudged up big time by not allowing any guest hosts. She basically said it was either her or Art.

I kind of think Joshua Pee Warren is also on that guest host list  :

[Lilith]

An eye-opener! If you go to cwrnet.com it has Heather plastered at the top along with some red tape...

I admit, I looked.  I was hoping to see a new pic of Heather is the only reason.

[21st Century Man]

I believe the Roswell story but I'm burned out on it.  It was very interesting the first time I heard about it on Unsolved Mysteries and the first 10 or so interviews I heard about it on Coast.  Not so, anymore. Something came down and it wasn't a weather balloon but we'll never find out the whole story on this side of the veil.

[chefist]

So, similarlly, you can only see advanced as perfect. God complex much? :

Comparatively, yes...do I think they are here? That's another story...the "God Complex" comment isn't relevant.

[ItsOver]

Ah, Terri Nunn.  Yum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpYNwFGaMik

Terri and Berlin are great. 

http://youtu.be/piF7rT8hQJg

[21st Century Man]

That's great. Heather fudged up big time by not allowing any guest hosts. She basically said it was either her or Art.

I kind of think Joshua Pee Warren is also on that guest host list  :

Jorch would cancel his Asheville appearance if Warren did that.

[HumanBeing]

"Mr. Scott, the current dog is peeing well.  However, dog 1987 is dead.  Please pass this on to Jim."

sweet baby jesus those two are something else 

[TigerLily]

Why should I? Am I making too much sense again?!

Just thought you could use a reminder since you "exposed the dumb"

[Cowkiller]

And tell Keith to get the show back on shortwave.

I second this.  I loved listening to MITD on WTWW!  On a good beam shortwave can easily cover most of N America;  shortwave time is affordable and  shortwave listeners are like bellgab, vaguely lovable; and most important, Shortwave sounds better.

[ponyboysunset]

All, who is footing the bill for music licensing for Heather? That almost broke Art. Who is the mystery bank roll now?

[WildCard]

So, similarlly, you can only see advanced as perfect. God complex much? :

go rub sticks with star. between the two of you, you might get a spark

[Jocko Johnson]

Dames would get thumped but Hoagie is invincible.  He just can't be broken.

Correct. RCH has been a bullshitter for decades. So he just pulls shit right out of his ass. He makes stuff up that he can't even understand it himself so you can't counter him, he just goes on calling things that never happened or can not be proved. Like Phobous isn't a moon but a space ship. Was gonna land for years.  Like Ed Dames kill shot...every year he says I never said that, it will be next yr. Hosgie does the same stuff, what??? Talks like we're nuts...
19.5!!!! That says it all and Einstein certainly agrees.
P.S. Art I don't think had Dames back on since he told Art he knew where tons of gold were laying around in the desert. Art kept saying, Ed I am still waiting where' my gold...Eddie would say, don't worry I am gonna bring it to you, he never did, Art never had that fraudulent midget back on the air!!

[Bonanza Pilot]

This is what made me need a shower. God I don't want to know this stuff happens. Really, I don't.

Were you reading the putfile/artbellisacreep link? It is gone now.

Can anyone summarize?

[chefist]

All, who is footing the bill for music licensing for Heather? That almost broke Art. Who is the mystery bank roll now?

Good question...maybe she has enough for a month or two...hoping things turn around and revenue increases...

[Faustina]

Seems like you’re a pretty great example, but then I’m into the same stuff.

Most of us here are. 

[ponyboysunset]

Good question...maybe she has enough for a month or two...hoping things turn around and revenue increases...

I keep thinking we are back to the rules don't apply to me thought pattern. Now if you did a small show like I did with a small audience you can do it. You run the risk. But a bigger show that could be dangerous. You also have to take the damned music out on the replay too. But surely she must know all of this 

[ItsOver]

sweet baby jesus those two are something else 

Definitely potential Jorch Noory Live attendees, depending upon how exclusively codependent they are with Heater.

[SredniVashtar]

No, you see me this way. It's flattering, I guess...even from a douche like you.

I admire you immensely, you fascinating little fellow. I look up to you. Not literally, of course, being two feet taller.

[Grifynne]

Yes, Heather got upset when Art died and went off the deep end. First, she was pissed that Art's death was announced before she could do it on MitD (presumably to get everyone coming back to MitD for the info). Then she didn't do the show for 2+ weeks and refused to let Keith know when she might return. She also demanded that he not get a fill-in host while she's gone (and refused to provide one).

Keith tried working with her, giving her space, but she badmouthed him and flipped anytime he tried to come to a solution. A couple deadlines were set and missed by Heather so Keith finally terminated her. She pretty much tied his hands up to that point. He was more than generous with the time he gave her, considering no employer I know would have waited that long and not found a fill-in.

In the meantime, Heather has amassed mindless followers who only know what she wants them to know and continue to rip Keith apart. Also, despite living next door, she did not attend Art's funeral nor drive his wife to the service (these things were mentioned, interpret them as you may). A close friend of Art's, Karen from KNYE, did a show discussing how pissed she was the Nye County Sheriff announced Art's death. She claimed Heather was supposed to be on but didn't appear for some unknown reason. Karen has since made negative posts about Heather's weeks-long self-pity party and how it needs to stop.

Yes, Heather seems to hate everyone. She and Rosegirl (AKA Lasha Seniuk) have been all over social media expressing that sentiment. Heather called George Knapp a vulture after George posted an interview he did with Art in tribute (or some kinda related audio - something that was done long before Heather was in the picture). Lasha continues to stir the pot as well.

Heather also appeared on a crappy podcast show called UFO Undercover with Joe Montaldo (I think this links to the interview episode: https://soundcloud.com/uprn/ufo-undercover-tonight-guest ) that was a trainwreck. She was rude to the host, stopped mid-interview to take a personal phone call, wouldn't let the host run the show and was obviously screening callers hard despite trying to act like she wasn't (as evidenced by later remarks she made about Bellgabbers not calling in on social media). The episode was a mix of her barking demands at the host in between fake sobs and sycophants fawning. Quite the spectacle. Although one caller got in with a great question about whether or not she was Art's mistress.  And there was a highly suspect anecdote Heather told about Art, which he obviously cannot verify at this point.

EDIT per Albrecht: I will only add I seem to recall during that awful show that sounded like it was being done in an aquarium that they were still broadcasting after they thought the show was over and the crying, sniffling, and maudlinism suddenly seemed to disappear. At least at it seemed to me.

Keith announced that he has found a new host for MitD, but hasn't said who. Through tons of Bellgab speculation, the potential list was narrowed down to a few people. Noory popped on the forums here and by his presence, and the fact he indicated that he "knows" the host, many deduced that it is Dave Schrader. Noory didn't come out and say it directly, but the clues are there. They did announce that Ian Punnett is returning to C2C, though, presumably to replace whoever is joining MitD.

And tonight MitD starts again, for the first time since Art died (and having never put on a tribute show thanks to Heather - not counting Keith's bumper music marathon).

Someone else can chime in if I forgot anything. There are tons of little snippets of conversation and details floating around, but I think that covers the key events as I remember them. lol

Back by request, here is my original "what the hell is happening?" post with some new updates and links to screenshots.

Here we have Lasha threatening someone with Satanists and mob bosses because interviews: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1193973#msg1193973

One of the ideas that Heather tried to push on her followers is that Keith suddenly fired her for no reason and blocked her from accessing any means of communicating with them, which is obviously not true. But in case that isn't obvious enough, here is Keith verifying that "nothing has changed": http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1193889#msg1193889

And since there seems to be some opinion that Heather is this sweet, innocent person who did nothing wrong (well not so much here, but elsewhere), here she is asking her followers to "bash the hell out of that guest host": http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1195597#msg1195597

Meanwhile, Dave Schrader has taken over MitD. So far, he's had a mostly positive reception from Bellgab. The only group that seems to be unhappy with him are almost entirely Heather's sycophants. He has come across as everything Heather wasn't: honest, upfront, reliable, and a good interviewer. He also doesn't put on a stupid voice so +1,000.

Possibly due to boredom, one of Heather's followers in the Heather Wade Fans Facebook group created a banner with her one and only photo. In the process, he Photoshopped her hair on both sides, giving her that trendy spaniel look (I present The Spaniel: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1202741#msg1202741). And the Spy operating within the group (AKA: me) was found out and banned hard. Can't even see the group name in the Facebook search anymore. Now we know that Heather's cult has their eye on Bellgab.

We also have other evidence that Heather or her proxy follow Bellgab. After laying claim to Art Bell's legacy, she created the website www.ArtBellLegacy.com. Not to be outdone, our own loveable Bart Ell created his version at www.BartEllLegacy.com. Shortly after, we discovered that Heather's site's menu icons were changed, possibly because she knew that they had to be different or else Bart Ell's legacy would be the clear winner.

The strange couple Paul and Ella Craddock continue to fawn over Heather and send her weird gifts. To date, we know that she has received a garment steamer, socks, a survival pen, and some kind of video of "Dracula pumpkin orb's 2002 and the death of our dog 1987 pictures" from them. Also they pee the dog. I'm not making this up. Click here to read it for yourself: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1208005;topicseen#msg1208005

Heather appears to have crawled out of her hole after several days of silence. She seems to be trying to spark interest and excitement with posts on Facebook asking her followers "Wanna take a ride?" and posting music videos like Nancy Sinatra's These Boots Are Made for Walking.

Monday is suppose to be the "big day" for her return, although there is very little information out there as of yet. And while Heather dicks around getting her shit together, Dave Schrader continues to thrive on MitD, even giving Bellgab some love with shoutouts and posting on the forums.

Also, for posterity since it isn't new, here is a link to Art's long-time friend Karen Jackson from KNYE's Facebook page with attached screenshot of her reaction to Heather's pity party: https://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Jackson/1073027827

And now we wait for the next meltdown...

[chefist]

I keep thinking we are back to the rules don't apply to me thought pattern. Now if you did a small show like I did with a small audience you can do it. You run the risk. But a bigger show that could be dangerous. You also have to take the damned music out on the replay too. But surely she must know all of this 

Art had the celebrity to pull it off...he knew the business would grow with him hosting...HW does not have that option.

[ItsOver]

All, who is footing the bill for music licensing for Heather? That almost broke Art. Who is the mystery bank roll now?

The Bank of Pahrump?  Quick, someone call the FBI.

[ItsOver]

Dames would get thumped but Hoagie is invincible.  He just can't be broken.

I suspect it's the Samson factor. 

[Faustina]

Here's the thing, there is literally no shortage of true crime podcasts. You could listen to nothing but murder for 24 hours a day and never run out of it. This is a well that is best visited infrequently, if ever.

I don't listen to true crime podcasts, so I'm not burnt out on that topic.  I listen to 90% live radio, and 10% paranormal podcasts. 

[21st Century Man]

The Bank of Pahrump?  Quick, someone call the FBI.

LOL.  Since you posted that, I'll post this other Terri Nunn/Berlin tune.  She made a pretty good Bonnie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIb9QUGjdIc

[Dr. MD MD]

Comparatively, yes...do I think they are here? That's another story...the "God Complex" comment isn't relevant.

If you think advanced only ever equals perfect then I'd say it's verry much relevant, though obviously largely unconscious to you.

[DaveSchrader]

Here's the thing, there is literally no shortage of true crime podcasts. You could listen to nothing but murder for 24 hours a day and never run out of it. This is a well that is best visited infrequently, if ever.

I do host a True Crime program called True Crime Tuesday and you can find it and subscribe here
www.Patreon.com/TrueCrimeTuesday

I will keep that the main stay for True Crime as it is established as such, but I am all about unsolved mysteries and the like for MitD!

[Dr. MD MD]

Just thought you could use a reminder since you "exposed the dumb"

There never seems to be any shortage of it to expose.

[Bobs Your Uncle]

Back by request, here is my original "what the hell is happening?" post with some new updates and links to screenshots.

Here we have Lasha threatening someone with Satanists and mob bosses because interviews: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1193973#msg1193973

One of the ideas that Heather tried to push on her followers is that Keith suddenly fired her for no reason and blocked her from accessing any means of communicating with them, which is obviously not true. But in case that isn't obvious enough, here is Keith verifying that "nothing has changed": http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1193889#msg1193889

And since there seems to be some opinion that Heather is this sweet, innocent person who did nothing wrong (well not so much here, but elsewhere), here she is asking her followers to "bash the hell out of that guest host": http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1195597#msg1195597

Meanwhile, Dave Schrader has taken over MitD. So far, he's had a mostly positive reception from Bellgab. The only group that seems to be unhappy with him are almost entirely Heather's sycophants. He has come across as everything Heather wasn't: honest, upfront, reliable, and a good interviewer. He also doesn't put on a stupid voice so +1,000.

Possibly due to boredom, one of Heather's followers in the Heather Wade Fans Facebook group created a banner with her one and only photo. In the process, he Photoshopped her hair on both sides, giving her that trendy spaniel look (I present The Spaniel: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1202741#msg1202741). And the Spy operating within the group (AKA: me) was found out and banned hard. Can't even see the group name in the Facebook search anymore. Now we know that Heather's cult has their eye on Bellgab.

We also have other evidence that Heather or her proxy follow Bellgab. After laying claim to Art Bell's legacy, she created the website www.ArtBellLegacy.com. Not to be outdone, our own loveable Bart Ell created his version at www.BartEllLegacy.com. Shortly after, we discovered that Heather's site's menu icons were changed, possibly because she knew that they had to be different or else Bart Ell's legacy would be the clear winner.

The strange couple Paul and Ella Craddock continue to fawn over Heather and send her weird gifts. To date, we know that she has received a garment steamer, socks, a survival pen, and some kind of video of "Dracula pumpkin orb's 2002 and the death of our dog 1987 pictures" from them. Also they pee the dog. I'm not making this up. Click here to read it for yourself: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1208005;topicseen#msg1208005

Heather appears to have crawled out of her hole after several days of silence. She seems to be trying to spark interest and excitement with posts on Facebook asking her followers "Wanna take a ride?" and posting music videos like Nancy Sinatra's These Boots Are Made for Walking.

Monday is suppose to be the "big day" for her return, although there is very little information out there as of yet. And while Heather dicks around getting her shit together, Dave Schrader continues to thrive on MitD, even giving Bellgab some love with shoutouts and posting on the forums.

Also, for posterity since it isn't new, here is a link to Art's long-time friend Karen Jackson from KNYE's Facebook page with attached screenshot of her reaction to Heather's pity party: https://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Jackson/1073027827

And now we wait for the next meltdown...

Thank you for putting this together. I'm sure there will be more to come!