Midnight In The Desert

[SciFiAuthor]

So, according to your logic advanced must mean perfect...flawless, right? I think the dumb here has been exposed.

Also, who the fuck are you to tell anyone what the reality of the universe is?!

Not perfect, just basic competency and management of your mission. And it's not me telling anyone anything, it's the realities of the universe and Albert Einstein. Just because someone told a tall tale and a bunch of opportunists jumped on with sellable stories over the decades doesn't mean something really happened. What people don't talk about with Roswell is that it's just as likely that the government lied and disseminated disinformation to cover for their secret soviet nuke-searching balloon project. Just because you want something to be alien doesn't mean it is, and when something starts looking like dated 1940's sci fi that was sold as real you should probably reevaluate the whole thing. Of course, people like you don't, you just maintain faith, and at that point it just becomes a religion.

[Lilith]

Here's the thing, there is literally no shortage of true crime podcasts. You could listen to nothing but murder for 24 hours a day and never run out of it. This is a well that is best visited infrequently, if ever.

SURELY the same can be said for paranormal podcasts as can be said for Politics and True Crime?

I could be wrong.

I think Dave should do anything/everything that interests HIM.

TidePods 

[ponyboysunset]

Just got done with the first guest from last night....
"Don't trust me my techniques are a gimmick.." uhhhh....

[Taco Bell]

Agreed. I've always made this same assertion. According to "UFologists", these things are falling out of the sky like rain. If they could get here, they would have the technology and procedures to prevent a catastrophic failure of their systems. Their failure rate would be statistically close to zero...just as our airline system approaches this same ideal...

Also, they would have triple and quadruple redundancies in place on their platforms...millennia of trial, error and experience to prevent Matt Brazel shooting you down with his double barrel shotgun (how I choose to see the Roswell story...Jed Clampett style).

I just wonder why alien spacecraft would have to emit light when maneuvering through the sky - all this technology and they're still lit up like a hooptie bouncing though a swap meet.

[SciFiAuthor]

They crashed because  the space aliens had just had their first taste of earth liquor and earth women. Remember Al Gore was born exactly nine months after the Roswell crash.

I could buy that Al Gore has alien DNA.

[chefist]

I do host a True Crime program called True Crime Tuesday and you can find it and subscribe here
www.Patreon.com/TrueCrimeTuesday

I will keep that the main stay for True Crime as it is established as such, but I am all about unsolved mysteries and the like for MitD!

Consider getting local experts on the show...for example, in Southern Illinois there is the legend of the Piasa Bird...also, the complete disappearance of the Cahokia Indians...there are many quality experts in a local geographical area that would come on for a 1 hour segment to discuss these mysteries...

New stories and experts are always appreciated...

[Dr. MD MD]

Not perfect, just basic competency and management of your mission. And it's not me telling anyone anything, it's the realities of the universe and Albert Einstein. Just because someone told a tall tale and a bunch of opportunists jumped on with sellable stories over the decades doesn't mean something really happened. What people don't talk about with Roswell is that it's just as likely that the government lied and disseminated disinformation to cover for their secret soviet nuke-searching balloon project. Just because you want something to be alien doesn't mean it is, and when something starts looking like dated 1940's sci fi that was sold as real you should probably reevaluate the whole thing. Of course, people like you don't, you just maintain faith, and at that point it just becomes a religion.

People like me? Why you impudent little snoot! You're the one with a religious zeal to disprove this. I just think it's likely true, given the original reports on it. You're just using sophistry to dismiss it. It's intellectually lazy of you.

[Robert]

I have had Basagio on my show over the years, I find him enjoyable and weirdly fun.

Me too.  Remember, we like playing the "legit, charlatan, deluded, or crazy" game.

[ItsOver]

LOL.  Since you posted that, I'll post this other Terri Nunn/Berlin tune.  She made a pretty good Bonnie...

Ha!  Yes, I thought about that video, especially as it relates to "Heater" Wade.  She's smoking in that one. 

I still have SiriusXM in my car and listen to First Wave when Richard Blade is hosting.  Since he almost hooked-up with Nunn as a marital partner, he talks about her quite a bit and plays a lot of Berlin.

[chefist]

I just wonder why alien spacecraft would have to emit light when maneuvering through the sky - all this technology and they're still lit up like a hooptie bouncing though a swap meet.

Correct...the newly released videos from the Navy show a craft flying above the ocean at a very high rate of speed...very plain and innocuous looking...

[bellNwhistle]

Dave, if you’re reading, the word you were looking for last night was “spirochete”. 

Highly suggest a look at the documentary “Under Our Skin”, for those who haven’t seen it.

[SciFiAuthor]

Agreed. I've always made this same assertion. According to "UFologists", these things are falling out of the sky like rain. If they could get here, they would have the technology and procedures to prevent a catastrophic failure of their systems. Their failure rate would be statistically close to zero...just as our airline system approaches this same ideal...

Also, they would have triple and quadruple redundancies in place on their platforms...millennia of trial, error and experience to prevent Matt Brazel shooting you down with his double barrel shotgun (how I choose to see the Roswell story...Jed Clampett style).

Exactly. The more you think about it, the sillier it seems. And then you see all the books written on it, the fixation of cable television on it, and the massive amount of web content about it and you realize just how much of a cash cow the Roswell story is. Fiction sold as real is the dirty secret of the writing industry, whether it's L. Ron Hubbard (originally a mediocre sci fi author) selling a religion or Whitley (originally a horror genre author) selling stories of probings. Fiction sold as real is the truest conspiracy theory of all.

[Lilith]

That reminds me of the car crash that was Heather Fade's interview with, ahem, ''John Titor'' that went tits up when he was revealed to be a fraud. By callers though, not Heather. No, apparently Heather posed a series of questions to ''John'' before going on air to confirm he was the real deal.

After those phone lines opened up and it all went to shit

Ah YES, I remember it WELL!  The correct pronounciation was Tie-Door if I remember correctly?

[Cowkiller]

Closer to 3 months than 3 years

I stand corrected.  That blows my whole friggin premise.   Now, the question is, do I adjust my reality? or should I just power thru and ignore the truth, because I like my story better.  What would heather do?

[Dr. MD MD]

Exactly. The more you think about it, the sillier it seems. And then you see all the books written on it, the fixation of cable television on it, and the massive amount of web content about it and you realize just how much of a cash cow the Roswell story is. Fiction sold as real is the dirty secret of the writing industry, whether it's L. Ron Hubbard (originally a mediocre sci fi author) selling a religion or Whitley (originally a horror genre author) selling stories of probings. Fiction sold as real is the truest conspiracy theory of all.

Your SciFi must be the most boring, dry fiction EVER! :

[chefist]

Exactly. The more you think about it, the sillier it seems. And then you see all the books written on it, the fixation of cable television on it, and the massive amount of web content about it and you realize just how much of a cash cow the Roswell story is. Fiction sold as real is the dirty secret of the writing industry, whether it's L. Ron Hubbard (originally a mediocre sci fi author) selling a religion or Whitley (originally a horror genre author) selling stories of probings. Fiction sold as real is the truest conspiracy theory of all.

Exactly...mythology is interesting...but still a myth.

[21st Century Man]

Consider getting local experts on the show...for example, in Southern Illinois there is the legend of the Piasa Bird...also, the complete disappearance of the Cahokia Indians...there are many quality experts in a local geographical area that would come on for a 1 hour segment to discuss these mysteries...

New stories and experts are always appreciated...

Great suggestions.

[SciFiAuthor]

People like me? Why you impudent little snoot! You're the one with a religious zeal to disprove this. I just think it's likely true, given the original reports on it. You're just using sophistry to dismiss it. It's intellectually lazy of you.

Which original reports? The media newspaper story or the government story? Which one do you choose to trust more? Which is fake news?

[HumanBeing]

Back by request, here is my original "what the hell is happening?" post with some new updates and links to screenshots.

Here we have Lasha threatening someone with Satanists and mob bosses because interviews: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1193973#msg1193973

One of the ideas that Heather tried to push on her followers is that Keith suddenly fired her for no reason and blocked her from accessing any means of communicating with them, which is obviously not true. But in case that isn't obvious enough, here is Keith verifying that "nothing has changed": http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1193889#msg1193889

And since there seems to be some opinion that Heather is this sweet, innocent person who did nothing wrong (well not so much here, but elsewhere), here she is asking her followers to "bash the hell out of that guest host": http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1195597#msg1195597

Meanwhile, Dave Schrader has taken over MitD. So far, he's had a mostly positive reception from Bellgab. The only group that seems to be unhappy with him are almost entirely Heather's sycophants. He has come across as everything Heather wasn't: honest, upfront, reliable, and a good interviewer. He also doesn't put on a stupid voice so +1,000.

Possibly due to boredom, one of Heather's followers in the Heather Wade Fans Facebook group created a banner with her one and only photo. In the process, he Photoshopped her hair on both sides, giving her that trendy spaniel look (I present The Spaniel: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1202741#msg1202741). And the Spy operating within the group (AKA: me) was found out and banned hard. Can't even see the group name in the Facebook search anymore. Now we know that Heather's cult has their eye on Bellgab.

We also have other evidence that Heather or her proxy follow Bellgab. After laying claim to Art Bell's legacy, she created the website www.ArtBellLegacy.com. Not to be outdone, our own loveable Bart Ell created his version at www.BartEllLegacy.com. Shortly after, we discovered that Heather's site's menu icons were changed, possibly because she knew that they had to be different or else Bart Ell's legacy would be the clear winner.

The strange couple Paul and Ella Craddock continue to fawn over Heather and send her weird gifts. To date, we know that she has received a garment steamer, socks, a survival pen, and some kind of video of "Dracula pumpkin orb's 2002 and the death of our dog 1987 pictures" from them. Also they pee the dog. I'm not making this up. Click here to read it for yourself: http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=9159.msg1208005;topicseen#msg1208005

Heather appears to have crawled out of her hole after several days of silence. She seems to be trying to spark interest and excitement with posts on Facebook asking her followers "Wanna take a ride?" and posting music videos like Nancy Sinatra's These Boots Are Made for Walking.

Monday is suppose to be the "big day" for her return, although there is very little information out there as of yet. And while Heather dicks around getting her shit together, Dave Schrader continues to thrive on MitD, even giving Bellgab some love with shoutouts and posting on the forums.

Also, for posterity since it isn't new, here is a link to Art's long-time friend Karen Jackson from KNYE's Facebook page with attached screenshot of her reaction to Heather's pity party: https://www.facebook.com/people/Karen-Jackson/1073027827

And now we wait for the next meltdown...

Thanks. Great job. This is wicked! 

[Uncle Duke]

Correct. RCH has been a bullshitter for decades. So he just pulls shit right out of his ass. He makes stuff up that he can't even understand it himself so you can't counter him, he just goes on calling things that never happened or can not be proved. Like Phobous isn't a moon but a space ship. Was gonna land for years.  Like Ed Dames kill shot...every year he says I never said that, it will be next yr. Hosgie does the same stuff, what??? Talks like we're nuts...
19.5!!!! That says it all and Einstein certainly agrees.
P.S. Art I don't think had Dames back on since he told Art he knew where tons of gold were laying around in the desert. Art kept saying, Ed I am still waiting where' my gold...Eddie would say, don't worry I am gonna bring it to you, he never did, Art never had that fraudulent midget back on the air!!

In fairness, Dames was/is smart enough to not give a date or time span for his predictions.  He talks about precursors and events that will happen along a time line, but they are open ended relative to the calendar.  He's even got a explanation for not being able to set dates....time is not linear to the remote viewer.  He is a scam artist, but I have to give him credit.  Whenever someone says his prediction(s) didn't come true, all he has to say is, "Not yet". 

Conversely, the Kathleen Keatings of world give specific dates, or at least no later than, predictions.  In 2001 she predicted within five years the US would be invaded by both the Russians and Chinese, and there would be a nuclear war in the Middle East. 

[Grifynne]

Thank you for putting this together. I'm sure there will be more to come!

No problem! Oh, I'm sure there will be. 

[Dr. MD MD]

Which original reports? The media newspaper story or the government story? Which one do you choose to trust more? Which is fake news?

Both.

[Lilith]

I believe the Roswell story but I'm burned out on it.  It was very interesting the first time I heard about it on Unsolved Mysteries and the first 10 or so interviews I heard about it on Coast.  Not so, anymore. Something came down and it wasn't a weather balloon but we'll never find out the whole story on this side of the veil.

That's how I feel about it as well.

Short of finding new guests to speak on these topics, I've heard em all too many times already.  I'd rather hear a variety of topics from speakers I've never heard before, but I'm going to do my best to like this program, because I like the bellgab shoutouts, the fact that the archive is up in time for morning coffee, and I like Dave so far 

TidePods.

[SciFiAuthor]

Your SciFi must be the most boring, dry fiction EVER! :

That's an easy fix. If I ever need to sell more books, I'll simply say it's real. It really is that simple.

[Lilith]

All, who is footing the bill for music licensing for Heather? That almost broke Art. Who is the mystery bank roll now?

WhiteTroll?

[DaveSchrader]

That's great. Heather fudged up big time by not allowing any guest hosts. She basically said it was either her or Art.

I kind of think Joshua Pee Warren is also on that guest host list  :

He is not.

[SciFiAuthor]

Both.

They're at odds. One says an alien spacecraft the other says a weather balloon. Can't be both, grasshopper.

[Grifynne]

Thanks. Great job. This is wicked! 

No problem! My only regret was not bookmarking screenshots as they appeared. That one with heather telling her followers to bash the guest host was difficult to dig up. lol So, if I missed anything important, please let me know and I will add it as this bullshit rolls along. 

[Dr. MD MD]

That's an easy fix. If I ever need to sell more books, I'll simply say it's real. It really is that simple.

You just don't have the imagination, I'm afraid. You could always sell them as a cure for insomnia though. 

[Dr. MD MD]

They're at odds. One says an alien spacecraft the other says a weather balloon. Can't be both, grasshopper.

Day one reports, grasshopper.