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Midnight In The Desert

Started by Falkie2013, December 11, 2015, 11:13:40 PM

GravitySucks

Quote from: brig on December 30, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I saw the show was a rebroadcast, so I tried to find a recording of the first interview.  I believe this could be it.


Damn, that lady has some serious skills. 😎

chefist

Quote from: brig on December 30, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I saw the show was a rebroadcast, so I tried to find a recording of the first interview.  I believe this could be it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4UOw9n1zU8

Hi Brig! Hope your holidays are well!

Zenman

Quote from: Chronaut on December 30, 2015, 07:16:02 PM
Yep, and for a scientist he's brilliant at making sensible arguments in plain terms.  For example, I think he's spot on explaining why aliens wouldn't park their disc to have a chat with the locals:  we're a bunch of violent, ignorant savages whose most notable activity is slaughtering each other.  Why would any creature with a glimmer of intelligence think that we'd treat them any better than we treat each other?

I wouldn't be too surprised to find out they've stepped in once or twice to save us from blowing ourselves to smithereens. It's one explanation as to why we're still here against fairly stiff odds.

Lilith

Quote from: chefist on December 30, 2015, 07:41:18 PM
Hi Brig! Hope your holidays are well!

Best wishes for you and yours as well Chefist.....ALWAYS!  Hope we get to "talk on the air" again together someday!  :-*

HumanBeing

Quote from: brig on December 30, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
I saw the show was a rebroadcast, so I tried to find a recording of the first interview.  I believe this could be it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4UOw9n1zU8

Thanks again. You have out done yourself  8)


GravitySucks

Quote from: Zenman on December 30, 2015, 07:42:36 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised to find out they've stepped in once or twice to save us from blowing ourselves to smithereens. It's one explanation as to why we're still here against fairly stiff odds.

Well there have been over 2400 nuclear tests including over 500 atmospheric tests and they haven't stopped any of those. But those facts don't stop the woo woo.

Woks Wong

So peoples, what crazy is on tonight?  Thank you.




Woks Wong

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 30, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
Stanton Freidman.

Thank the lord.  Woks ok.  Hard day doing experiments on the axons of Scollops.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Woks Wong on December 30, 2015, 07:52:21 PM
Thank the lord.  Woks ok.  Hard day doing experiments on the axons of Scollops.

My favorite are Thai Clay Pot scallops with lemongrass and glass noodles.

Zenman

Quote from: chefist on December 30, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Well thank ya! I'm sure if there is enough positive energy here, the dark will invade...but we can try to enjoy the moment, right?  :D

Good to see you, chef. Glad you made it to safe ground. Maybe the bad energy will confine itself to the TrollGab thread with any luck. Good advice to enjoy the moment tho. Life is too short.

Woks Wong

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 30, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
My favorite are Thai Clay Pot scallops with lemongrass and glass noodles.

Never eat glass my friend.  End in bad digestive scenario type experience for you.  Clay you can eat in moderation, it's ok.

Chronaut

Quote from: Zenman on December 30, 2015, 07:42:36 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised to find out they've stepped in once or twice to save us from blowing ourselves to smithereens. It's one explanation as to why we're still here against fairly stiff odds.

There was an alleged 1950s-era contactee named Daniel Fry who was an instrument technician working on the early rocket program at White Sands, who said that the aliens who communicated remotely with him through some kind of telepathy technology, had the capability of showing any of our leaders who got hasty, the horrific consequences of a nuclear war.  Apparently that would be enough to stop them in their tracks.  I don't think they ever admitted to using that capability, but he did say that their specific mission in contacting him was related to averting a nuclear holocaust.

I'm still on the fence about his story, but the weird thing about his story is this:  not only has it held up for fifty years, with no obvious mistaken statements to point out a demonstrable flaw, but some of the things he talked about are only now becoming technological and theoretical realities.  For example, he was told about a repulsive force accelerating the galaxies apart at cosmic scales, about 50 years before we discovered "dark energy" doing exactly that.  And he described the intricacies of warp field navigation 40-some years before it was theoretically described for the first time by Miguel Alcubierre in 1994.

I don't typically gravitate to the woo end of the spectrum, but I keep an open mind until I see a reason to do otherwise.  And that guy's story only seems to grow more credible every decade.

chefist

Quote from: Zenman on December 30, 2015, 07:55:34 PM
Good to see you, chef. Glad you made it to safe ground. Maybe the bad energy will confine itself to the TrollGab thread with any luck. Good advice to enjoy the moment tho. Life is too short.

Hi Zen! Maybe so...that's why so many never understood the BellaHaven thread...just folks who became friends wanting a place to chat...free of trolls and negativity...

I'm sure we can find new "havens" here...

Zenman

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 30, 2015, 07:46:23 PM
Well there have been over 2400 nuclear tests including over 500 atmospheric tests and they haven't stopped any of those. But those facts don't stop the woo woo.

Yes, and there has also been the cold war, the Cuban Missile Crisis and many near-mistakenly-launched nukes that weren't. All thru which we've survived fairly unscathed thus far, against the odds. Maybe the woo woos are on to something.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Woks Wong on December 30, 2015, 07:56:07 PM
Never eat glass my friend.  End in bad digestive scenario type experience for you.  Clay you can eat in moderation, it's ok.

Art Bell interviewed a guy that eats lightbulbs. I can handle glass noodles.

Woks Wong

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 30, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Art Bell interviewed a guy that eats lightbulbs. I can handle glass noodles.

Who Art Bell? 



trostol


Lilith

Quote from: chefist on December 30, 2015, 08:11:48 PM
LOL good stuff! Finally some humor back up in here...

Wait till you learn about his brother Dr. Wot B Wong.

GravitySucks

Quote from: brig on December 30, 2015, 08:13:14 PM
Wait till you learn about his brother Dr. Wot B Wong.

And his uncle, Capt Sum Ting Wong

chefist

Quote from: brig on December 30, 2015, 08:13:14 PM
Wait till you learn about his brother Dr. Wot B Wong.

LOL good stuff...


Zenman

Quote from: Chronaut on December 30, 2015, 07:59:13 PM
There was an alleged 1950s-era contactee named Daniel Fry who was an instrument technician working on the early rocket program at White Sands, who said that the aliens who communicated remotely with him through some kind of telepathy technology, had the capability of showing any of our leaders who got hasty, the horrific consequences of a nuclear war.  Apparently that would be enough to stop them in their tracks.  I don't think they ever admitted to using that capability, but he did say that their specific mission in contacting him was related to averting a nuclear holocaust.

I'm still on the fence about his story, but the weird thing about his story is this:  not only has it held up for fifty years, with no obvious mistaken statements to point out a demonstrable flaw, but some of the things he talked about are only now becoming technological and theoretical realities.  For example, he was told about a repulsive force accelerating the galaxies apart at cosmic scales, about 50 years before we discovered "dark energy" doing exactly that.  And he described the intricacies of warp field navigation 40-some years before it was theoretically described for the first time by Miguel Alcubierre in 1994.

I don't typically gravitate to the woo end of the spectrum, but I keep an open mind until I see a reason to do otherwise.  And that guy's story only seems to grow more credible every decade.

I'm on the 60/40 woo side on all of this, altho I do have the analytical skepticism thing going on most of the time. These stories would go a ways to help to explain why we humans haven't done ourselves in quite yet and, frankly, give one a bit of hope for humanity and its future. Being a cynic and a skeptic by nature, it's good to have some hope to grab onto here and there. I think many stories like this are bunk but there are a few that've been fairly compelling, and like you say, difficult to discredit.

chefist

Quote from: ItsOver on December 30, 2015, 08:16:57 PM
"Name the radio show host known as "The Quitter."


LOL...

You know, before and after the Sirius Dark Matter comeback, I listened to the SIT shows...now I am back to those...guess what? they are still great!

Rix Gins

Quote from: Chronaut on December 30, 2015, 07:59:13 PM
There was an alleged 1950s-era contactee named Daniel Fry who was an instrument technician working on the early rocket program at White Sands, who said that the aliens who communicated remotely with him through some kind of telepathy technology, had the capability of showing any of our leaders who got hasty, the horrific consequences of a nuclear war.  Apparently that would be enough to stop them in their tracks.  I don't think they ever admitted to using that capability, but he did say that their specific mission in contacting him was related to averting a nuclear holocaust.

I'm still on the fence about his story, but the weird thing about his story is this:  not only has it held up for fifty years, with no obvious mistaken statements to point out a demonstrable flaw, but some of the things he talked about are only now becoming technological and theoretical realities.  For example, he was told about a repulsive force accelerating the galaxies apart at cosmic scales, about 50 years before we discovered "dark energy" doing exactly that.  And he described the intricacies of warp field navigation 40-some years before it was theoretically described for the first time by Miguel Alcubierre in 1994.

I don't typically gravitate to the woo end of the spectrum, but I keep an open mind until I see a reason to do otherwise.  And that guy's story only seems to grow more credible every decade.

Dan was a fun guy to talk to.  Ask him a single question and he would take a good ten, fifteen minutes to answer it.  Oh, and he liked to smoke a good cigarette every now and then.

https://youtu.be/ooqb2zqSLOg


chefist

Quote from: Rix Gins on December 30, 2015, 08:25:19 PM
Dan was a fun guy to talk to.  Ask him a single question and he would take a good ten, fifteen minutes to answer it.  Oh, and he liked to smoke a good cigarette every now and then.

https://youtu.be/ooqb2zqSLOg

Many of these OG"s from back in the 50's was where Long John Nebel started his career...

This being one of the best!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Van_Tassel

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