Art Bell cancels show for good

[DanTSX]

The other possibility is he over reacted. He heard what he thought were gunshots. It's reasonable to hide if he thought he was being targeted. It doesn't mean he was.

Real life isn't CSI (insert your whatever British Forensic police lab equivalent TV show here).

Ripping off a burst from a rifle in Pahrump doesn't mean you'll find forensic evidence, or even witness testimony, or anything really.  Likely, several police cars came by, created a search perimeter, searched the area in a pattern for a suspect or signs of entry/egress, looked closer for expended shells with flashlights in the area Art "thought" he heard the gunshots from,  Then slowly ended the perimiter and went on to other calls.  After that, there was probably a patrol car or two anchored to the area over subsequent nights, until nothing more happened, and the case was closed.

Thats how policing works.  I'm sure you'll make up some bullshit about how 'murricans do it wrong now, but I'll be damned if I ever see you do it better.

Cheers m8.

[Claudius]

Real life isn't CSI bro.

There is likely a lot of stuff that Art isn't telling us, and shouldn't.

Fan of the Chicken Ranch?

I'm not so sure about that, he has already told way too much as it is. It's not like he really has much of a filter when it comes to this kind of stuff. I'm pretty sure the number one rule with a stalker if you are an on-air personality is to not talk about it as it just feeds into their craziness. And well that was broken almost instantaneously. 

[BellBoy]

I remember reading on one of these threads about Art claiming to have received a death threat on a call having been made to his personal, unlisted phone number.  I had never heard this claim before.  Can someone point me to a post where Art personally makes that claim?  If true, was the carrier contacted to identify the number from which the threatening call was made?  Short of the use of a "burn phone" or some hi tech, gee whiz spook gear, is it possible to conceal the number from which a call is made from a carrier served with a court order to identify that number?

Alas and unfortunately, at this time, there will be no police investigation and no court orders... The authorities, apparently don't see this as having evidence of being a credible threat.

Deputies did a thorough check of the area and located no one and also did not locate any evidence of gunshots. Deputies maintained extra patrol in the area over the remainder of the week however nothing was discovered. At this point the investigation is closed unless further information is discovered.

[Yorkshire pud]

Real life isn't CSI (insert your whatever British Forensic police lab equivalent TV show here).

Ripping off a burst from a rifle in Pahrump doesn't mean you'll find forensic evidence, or even witness testimony, or anything really.  Likely, several police cars came by, created a search perimeter, searched the area in a pattern for a suspect or signs of entry/egress, looked closer for expended shells with flashlights in the area Art "thought" he heard the gunshots from,  Then slowly ended the perimiter and went on to other calls.  After that, there was probably a patrol car or two anchored to the area over subsequent nights, until nothing more happened, and the case was closed.

Thats how policing works.  I'm sure you'll make up some bullshit about how 'murricans do it wrong now, but I'll be damned if I ever see you do it better.

Cheers m8.

If that is real life then it's dreadful police procedure. Not even returning in daylight to see if there is (likely) things that can't been seen at night?

[Claudius]

Real life isn't CSI (insert your whatever British Forensic police lab equivalent TV show here).

Ripping off a burst from a rifle in Pahrump doesn't mean you'll find forensic evidence, or even witness testimony, or anything really.  Likely, several police cars came by, created a search perimeter, searched the area in a pattern for a suspect or signs of entry/egress, looked closer for expended shells with flashlights in the area Art "thought" he heard the gunshots from,  Then slowly ended the perimiter and went on to other calls.  After that, there was probably a patrol car or two anchored to the area over subsequent nights, until nothing more happened, and the case was closed.

Thats how policing works.  I'm sure you'll make up some bullshit about how 'murricans do it wrong now, but I'll be damned if I ever see you do it better.

Cheers m8.

I like how you are fanatically defending Art for some reason. Why don't you read Pud's comment again. What he says is a valid explanation for this whole thing. Art mistakes something for gunshots and overreacts, what does that have to do with your claim that, "real life isn't CSI'?

In fact if something was going on more than just a series of weird events and Art's overactive imagination wouldn't you think the police would be clued into that after multiple incidents at Art's house? If you keep receiving calls you would come to the conclusion that Art is either being harassed, or he is crying wolf.

Oh wait never mind real life isn't like CSI, that's right.

[onan]

cuckoldry is a thing too. you seem familiar with letting women enjoy their antics on your expense.

Yes, because no woman has any honor. They need to walk a few feet behind and completely covered in clothing. And never, I mean never let them talk. :

[Claudius]

Alas and unfortunately, at this time, there will be no police investigation and no court orders... The authorities, apparently don't see this as having evidence of being a credible threat.

Minor celebrities all the way up the chain to big Hollywood stars receive threats, including death threats on a regular basis, sadly it's not longer meaningful to receive one. What would be more interesting would be to compare the amount he received in a typical 6 month period from 1995-2001 and compare that to now.   

[Claudius]

If that is real life then it's dreadful police procedure. Not even returning in daylight to see if there is (likely) things that can't been seen at night?

Haha, that was my thought too. If they didn't even come back to investigate in the daylight then that certainly is a terrible little town.

[DanTSX]

I'm not so sure about that, he has already told way too much as it is. It's not like he really has much of a filter when it comes to this kind of stuff. I'm pretty sure the number one rule with a stalker if you are an on-air personality is to not talk about it as it just feeds into their craziness. And well that was broken almost instantaneously.

Yet there are nights and weeks where he didn't talk about it.


We know what we need to know according to Art.  There are obviously some gaps that WE perceive that he doesn't.  And our gaggle of jackals are ready to inject all sorts of fantasies from art having an affair, to his wife hiring a shooter, to art having the police department in his back pocket and fabricating stories.   It all makes good TV, but the fact is that art is dealing with his issues and not really caring if everything "makes perfect sense" to us in the chain of details.  I wouldn't clue heather in 100% either as she could easily slip things held in confidence to the fan community (not a reflection on her) and really make it look like Art is withholding info.

The speculation and accusations here are sickening, apalling, and alarming.  Art is a smart guy and very private.  The fact that we have such access to his life and thoughts as we have had over the past 7-8 months is nothing short of amazing and unique, and likely something he has grown to regret as everyone here (and elsewhere) hanfs off of his every word with a palate of crayons and overactive imaginations to fill out the rest of their little world that Art generously allowed himself to enter.

[EarthAlien007]

Well, it looks like R.I.P   

http://artbell.com/the-future-of-midnight-in-the-desert-and-dark-matter-radio-network/

"I will run Midnight in the Desert w/Heather Wade on the Dark Matter Digital Network for the next 30 days minimum. She will start in Art’s same time slot for Monday and Tuesday…

However, seeing as I’m obligated to continue feeding the terrestrial affiliate stations for the next 30 days, I’ll need to feed either Heather’s live show or replays of Art Bell’s archives, (which ever they determine the best for them yet to be decided). If I need to feed the Art Bell replays to them at 9-12, Art’s time slot,  I will have Heather do MITD from 6-9 pm PT LIVE to insure she gets to do shows for you also. If the radio stations are fine with Heather filling in for Art, we’ll keep her at 9-12 PT."


It looks like we're going to lose DMDN shows 6-9 pm PT so Heather can have a show, if the affiliates want Art's replays.
This is seriously fucked up.

[DanTSX]

the stalker is made up, imo. at least a shooting stalker. NYE PD said Art didn't ever report a stalker or threats or any such thing. Then they post a so called press-release on their facebook page instead of their website 3 days after the fact which reads more like something a befriended cop made up after Art gave him a call.

The police are under no obligation to cooperate with anyone here on ongoing or prior investigations.

Consider it a courteous way of telling you what we all know....it's none of your business.


Edit:  again someone speculates that art has the PD in his pocket.  You guys are unbelievable.   

[DanTSX]

If that is real life then it's dreadful police procedure. Not even returning in daylight to see if there is (likely) things that can't been seen at night?

They likely did.

What do you expect them to find? A handful of ejected shell casings in the Pahrump playa? Good luck with that. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Yet there are nights and weeks where he didn't talk about it.


We know what we need to know according to Art.  There are obviously some gaps that WE perceive that he doesn't.  And our gaggle of jackals are ready to inject all sorts of fantasies from art having an affair, to his wife hiring a shooter, to art having the police department in his back pocket and fabricating stories.   It all makes good TV, but the fact is that art is dealing with his issues and not really caring if everything "makes perfect sense" to us in the chain of details.  I wouldn't clue heather in 100% either as she could easily slip things held in confidence to the fan community (not a reflection on her) and really make it look like Art is withholding info.

The speculation and accusations here are sickening, apalling, and alarming.  Art is a smart guy and very private.  The fact that we have such access to his life and thoughts as we have had over the past 7-8 months is nothing short of amazing and unique, and likely something he has grown to regret as everyone here (and elsewhere) hanfs off of his every word with a palate of crayons and overactive imaginations to fill out the rest of their little world that Art generously allowed himself to enter.

....and some take what he says at face value...Because AB would never ever say things that were less than true. It isn't complicated; he was bored with the show, maybe even tired of it. Maybe his wife wanted him to jack it in and have him for herself (not unreasonable), and one night his neighbour heard a shot or a car backfire, told AB...and then the paranoia began. People who are ultra private and use a 'stage' (Literal, TV, Radio, Literature, Music) are usually paranoid and can't see fact from fantasy.

[DanTSX]

you know there's a big difference between putting a bag on your woman's head like Islam does, and not allowing them play their games with you.

I thought Art's decision was based on his daughter's state, not his wife's.


But hey fuck it, man up.  Alphas don't back down because someone is shooting the house up right?

[Claudius]

I personally find the story of Art's mail order wife trying to bump him off so she can return to her boyfriend in the Philippines with Art's money to be the most entertaining suggestion.

And of all the theories, my personal favorite, out of sheer creativity. 

[onan]

We know what we need to know according to Art.

We know way more than we need to know. All we need to know is, he's not doing the show anymore.

Did someone shoot at his home and then at him? Quite possibly, the world has a good share of crazy. As much as I don't want any harm to befall him and his family, I am completely powerless to do anything. I kind of like that distance.

All this wringing of hands about what did and didn't happen is completely pointless. There is nothing anyone on this forum can do to change the situation.

It is imbecilic to have contacted the Nye PD. It is beyond imbecilic to post the Nye PD phone numbers. For what seems to be the hope to find some level of dishonesty. The reasons for that completely escape me.

[Yorkshire pud]

you know there's a big difference between putting a bag on your woman's head like Islam does, and not allowing them play their games with you.

I have no idea what you mean; are you suggesting women are lesser humans? Why do you pick women out to play games on men? I've very recently had 'games' played on me professionally, and it was two males who did it. One manipulated the other to fuck me over.

The only woman involved unbeknownst to me (as I was on holiday at the time, and unaware) fought my corner on my behalf, putting herself at considerable disadvantage.

[DanTSX]

....and some take what he says at face value...Because AB would never ever say things that were less than true. It isn't complicated; he was bored with the show, maybe even tired of it. Maybe his wife wanted him to jack it in and have him for herself (not unreasonable), and one night his neighbour heard a shot or a car backfire, told AB...and then the paranoia began. People who are ultra private and use a 'stage' (Literal, TV, Radio, Literature, Music) are usually paranoid and can't see fact from fantasy.

When was the last time you heard a car backfire?

So art is paranoid ?   You want to take art at face value, but you want to speculate about his ability to process reality?

Art wouldn't say things less than true?  Bull.   

[Claudius]

....and some take what he says at face value...Because AB would never ever say things that were less than true. It isn't complicated; he was bored with the show, maybe even tired of it. Maybe his wife wanted him to jack it in and have him for herself (not unreasonable), and one night his neighbour heard a shot or a car backfire, told AB...and then the paranoia began. People who are ultra private and use a 'stage' (Literal, TV, Radio, Literature, Music) are usually paranoid and can't see fact from fantasy.

If you are willing to believe things like, UFOs are real and the government is hiding that fact, shadow people are real, etc, then believing you are being personally targeted for broadcasting a late night paranormal show would also not be hard to buy into.

[DanTSX]

It's not hard to have a PD in your pocket, I had myself when I was running a pirate warez server at the local University. Cops got their monthly warez, and I was covered from any raids or pre warned in case.

Lol is this a joke?   You had "protection" by giving out access to a BBS with bootleg copies of DOOM and leisure suit Larry?   Lololool

Yeah you have protection, until you don't.   More fantasyland shit

[DanTSX]

We know way more than we need to know. All we need to know is, he's not doing the show anymore.

Did someone shoot at his home and then at him? Quite possibly, the world has a good share of crazy. As much as I don't want any harm to befall him and his family, I am completely powerless to do anything. I kind of like that distance.

All this wringing of hands about what did and didn't happen is completely pointless. There is nothing anyone on this forum can do to change the situation.

It is imbecilic to have contacted the Nye PD. It is beyond imbecilic to post the Nye PD phone numbers. For what seems to be the hope to find some level of dishonesty. The reasons for that completely escape me.

+1 Onan

Obviously you are only saying this because you are under the Control of the liscensing boards.

[Claudius]

When was the last time you heard a car backfire?

So art is paranoid ?   You want to take art at face value, but you want to speculate about his ability to process reality?

Art wouldn't say things less than true?  Bull.

Hmm about a month ago, yes it is extremely loud and out in the flat desert noise like that can be deafening.

No, Art is not paranoid he is simply very prone to over exaggeration and typically buys into things because they are "weird", or "spooky".

[DanTSX]

The "official press release" (which looks like a joke) said Art heard "some noise" like a gunshot or fireworks.
And 'shooting up the house' is a bit exaggerated with zero evidence.

Police are police, not reporters or media promoters.  Especially in Pahrump, NV.

Again, what evidence do you think would be found ?

[Yorkshire pud]

When was the last time you heard a car backfire?

You're right...firecracker

So art is paranoid ?   You want to take art at face value, but you want to speculate about his ability to process reality?

Possibly he is paranoid. I don't take him at face value, I forgot the sarcasm smiley.

Art wouldn't say things less than true?  Bull.

Exactly. Again, sarcasm smiley.

[DanTSX]

Hmm about a month ago, yes it is extremely loud and out in the flat desert noise like that can be deafening.

No, Art is not paranoid he is simply very prone to over exaggeration and typically buys into things because they are "weird", or "spooky".

He sounded pretty rational in the months leading up to MITD.   Don't confuse his on-air persona for what is likely rational skepticism....

[Claudius]

Police are police, not reporters or media promoters.  Especially in Pahrump, NV.

Wait, so are you saying that the report is probably more credible because unlike the media who tends to blow things way out of proportion, the police just stated what they were told?

You realize that if this was a media report it would read, "Famous Broadcaster Art Bell Is Under Assault by Gunmen"

[Claudius]

He sounded pretty rational in the months leading up to MITD.   Don't confuse his on-air persona for what is likely rational skepticism....

Dude he believes in so much woo woo it's incredible, rational skeptic my ass. He is a true believer through and through.   

[DanTSX]

Wait, so are you saying that the report is probably more credible because unlike the media who tends to blow things way out of proportion, the police just stated what they were told?

You realize that if this was a media report it would read, "Famous Broadcaster Art Bell Is Under Assault by Gunmen"

I'm saying neither would likely extend a press release unless prompted to, and not bound by interests of possible ongoing investigation.

[Yorkshire pud]

He sounded pretty rational in the months leading up to MITD.   Don't confuse his on-air persona for what is likely rational skepticism....

There was a football club manager in the UK who has retired. He was manager of Manchester United and his name is Alex Ferguson. No matter what his players did, be it on or off the field with their indiscretions, he never ever publically rebuked or criticised them.

You remind me of him.

[DanTSX]

There was a football club manager in the UK who has retired. He was manager of Manchester United and his name is Alex Ferguson. No matter what his players did, be it on or off the field with their indiscretions, he never ever publically rebuked or criticised them.

You remind me of him.

Ok.