20150922 - Dr. Kevin Trenberth - Climate Change - Live Show Chat Thread

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I knew it GodDamnit !!!!

FUCK YOU AND YOUR CARBON TAX YOU FUCKING RAPIST !!!!!!!!!

[SciFiAuthor]

Just find a technological solution. Mt. Pinatubo dropped global temperatures a degree in a weekend. These scientists always act as though engineers don't exist.

[chefist]

The power companies are not worried because they pass it on to the consumer! I am quickly losing any respect for this guy!

[Art]

OK, I've had it. Kevin is a turd nugget for the socialists.

Spoken like a true former NASA employee!

[Mind Flayer Monk]

THERE IS A TAX ON CARBON...

Isn't 20% of the cost of gas taxes?

[starrmtn001]

As soon as CERN creates enough Strangelets... Starting about now in a collider near you.

Wonder whether there is a spray for those little suckers.  They might eat existence for God's sake!

[JamesMcDonald]

We have a climate toxicity problem.  We need to address that more than warming.  They'll probably tax that too.

We have a climate toxicity problem.

You just said it.  YOU SAID IT.  The thing...  So important.  Thank you!

+1 Decillion

[TigerLily]

Sister Princess.  *bows and secret handshake -- we really need one* what did he say Asia had?  I came right in at the tale end.

Sorry Sis. I just returned from a phone call. She has foot mouth (!). Running a high fever and isolated in her room.
Btw I called my friend in San Diego back  with my shiny, New Skype. He said it sounded really good. (Secret handshake and ritual dance) 
 

[Bodach]

Did you actually read the article? Did you read the conclusion?


5. Conclusion


The public perception of a scientific consensus on AGW is a necessary element in public support for climate policy (Ding et al 2011). However, there is a significant gap between public perception and reality, with 57% of the US public either disagreeing or unaware that scientists overwhelmingly agree that the earth is warming due to human activity (Pew 2012).

Contributing to this 'consensus gap' are campaigns designed to confuse the public about the level of agreement among climate scientists. In 1991, Western Fuels Association conducted a $510 000 campaign whose primary goal was to 'reposition global warming as theory (not fact)'. A key strategy involved constructing the impression of active scientific debate using dissenting scientists as spokesmen (Oreskes 2010). The situation is exacerbated by media treatment of the climate issue, where the normative practice of providing opposing sides with equal attention has allowed a vocal minority to have their views amplified (Boykoff and Boykoff 2004). While there are indications that the situation has improved in the UK and USA prestige press (Boykoff 2007), the UK tabloid press showed no indication of improvement from 2000 to 2006 (Boykoff and Mansfield 2008).

The narrative presented by some dissenters is that the scientific consensus is '...on the point of collapse' (Oddie 2012) while '...the number of scientific "heretics" is growing with each passing year' (Allègre et al 2012). A systematic, comprehensive review of the literature provides quantitative evidence countering this assertion. The number of papers rejecting AGW is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.

The article has nothing to do with the raw data.  Here is the raw data.  The citation you have posted here only explains those that outright REJECT IT.  See, 66% of climatologists are actually scientists.  They realize there is not enough data to conclude.  Agnostic about it until there is actual scientific support.

Which there is not.

[maren]

Just like religion, these people are myopic with their god's perspective as the only view.

None of them talk about polar shift for one.  Overall ice on the planet is up.  NASA temperature data has been determined as manipulated.  The shift in the poles has changed the jet streams (therefore weather, like RAIN are impacted).

Art needs John Coleman (founder of the Weather Channel and San Diego resident) on.  Maybe on a "Celebrate San Diego" program.  Yay!!! KFMB!!!

And you're not myopic in your viewpoint?  We all are to some extent, I think. 

[ArJuna]

No discussion about HAARP yet.

This Trenberth is no "scientist" at all, in my eyes, in that case.

Agreed. A real scientist would not go all political.  He's a shill and nothing more.

[=Schlyder=]

He's likely a Dr of pediatry, and judges the climate from reading people's bunyons

[GravitySucks]

The arctic is losing ice (record low).
The antarctic is gaining ice (record high).



"On September 11, Arctic sea ice reached its likely minimum extent for 2015. The minimum ice extent was the fourth lowest in the satellite record, and reinforces the long-term downward trend in Arctic ice extent. Sea ice extent will now begin its seasonal increase through autumn and winter. In the Antarctic, sea ice extent is average, a substantial contrast with recent years when Antarctic winter extents reached record high levels."
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Arctic sea ice, at its minimum for the last two years was bigger than the previous year... In other words it went down and for two years has been growing.

[JamesMcDonald]

OH NO  NO  HE DID NOT JUST ESPOUSE THE USE OF NUCLEAR POWER???

GONG!!!!!  GONG!!!!!

He's GONE!!!!  OUT!!!!

[norland2424]

[coaster]

Maybe its the bottle of cough syrup I'm sipping on, but this guest is lulling me to sleep.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Einstein was a socialist. To some of you people that would discredit him lol.

He was also a plagiarist, He kiped the relativity theory from a Serbian that postulated it 105 years earlier, and then recanted it because it was flawed.

[21st Century Man]

So this scientist thinks we should have more nuclear power?  You want to talk about endangering the planet?  Geez.

[Rat-eating Hater]

We got trouble here in River City.  Trouble I say... it starts with a "T", that rhymes with "C" .. that stands for Climate Change.

Biggest bullshit story in the last 100 years.

Distinguished Senior Scientist Doctor Trenberth, Legitimate Scientist and True Believer, just let the cat out of the bag.

His solution is carbon taxes (Al Gore just roused out of his pot-induced haze and saluted).

A lower standard of living for Little People is a small price to pay, after all. And don't worry, those wonderful carbon taxes will be wisely spent by Kevin Trenberth and the his fellow High Priests.

It's all for your own good, you know.

[starrmtn001]

The arctic is losing ice (record low).
The antarctic is gaining ice (record high).

Now, that would make a good argument for the polar flip!

[21st Century Man]

Agreed. A real scientist would not go all political.  He's a shill and nothing more.

He needs that grant money to fund his "research".

[Weirdoradio]

OH NO  NO  HE DID NOT JUST ESPOUSE THE USE OF NUCLEAR POWER???

GONG!!!!!  GONG!!!!!

He's GONE!!!!  OUT!!!!

Yeahhhh I was kinda indifferent but him trying to advocate for nuclear power is just.... Unforgivable.

[WhiteCrow]

Just tuning in .. Late to the party .... Are there any DAVEBOTS lurking around tonight?

[TigerLily]

Just find a technological solution. Mt. Pinatubo dropped global temperatures a degree in a weekend. These scientists always act as though engineers don't exist.

Yes. But how long you going to wait? (She asks as she hoses down her roof as the flames get closer)

[maren]

Can someone please tell me what the phone number to listen (not call in) is? Thank you.

Order Alongside Night for only $16.96 + S&H please.

BRRAAAPS,

Kev

Have you been on detention?  I don't recall seeing you around lately.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

We have a climate toxicity problem.

You just said it.  YOU SAID IT.  The thing...  So important.  Thank you!

+1 Decillion

There... that's the issue. You guys hit it exactly on the head. Kudo's

[TigerLily]

Just tuning in .. Late to the party .... Are there any DAVEBOTS lurking around tonight?

No but be careful of all the blood on the floor

[GravitySucks]

So this scientist thinks we should have more nuclear power?  You want to talk about endangering the planet?  Geez.

We gave up thorium reactor research because we wanted plutonium during the Cold War.. Now India will lead that revolution.

[Weirdoradio]

Richard Dolan recorded his ad LIVE ON THE STREET.
If you listen closely, you can hear the whining of a child, the passing of a nearby car. Life, in its infinite glory, is unfolding around Dolan and they couldn't even get him a fucking mic, so it's all "room" tone.

[Autistic Star Children]

did the world end?