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Poor ol` Cecil the Lion

Started by FightTheFuture, July 29, 2015, 06:33:03 AM

The General

Quote from: Meatie Pie on July 31, 2015, 09:28:58 PM

You guys are outraged at outrage.


No, I just think it really demonstrates how easily manipulated people are.  Nobody would have even heard about this story, except for the fact that it was selected for their consumption by people who were counting on the fact that it would stir up page views and click bait.

What luxurious lives people must lead to have the time to be outraged by the killing of an animal that they didn't even know existed in a country that they couldn't identify on a map on a continent where millions of people don't even have access to clean drinking water. Hell with this story


3OctaveFart

This story would have generated passions whether it were aggressively covered or not. The imagery here is photographic and powerful. And in a Jenner media culture, the reality is the interest drove the coverage for once. People forgot about Dylan Roof because Justice very swiftly rained down upon his bowl-headed ass. The Mugabe shit is simply weak reverse-shaming. Pardon the expression, but that stately creature was a cash cow for a third-world government. They ought to be pissed off, too.

Jackstar

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on July 31, 2015, 08:42:45 PM
According to what Jackstar tells me, those people are not suffering.

I didn't say that. In fact, I specifically said that I couldn't tell if they had ever suffered. That I don't know if they are suffering now is implicit. Tsk tsk.


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they can stop living at Motel 6 and ordering in from Domino's three times per day.

Perhaps you didn't actually read the article. Hiding out at The Four Seasons and having Beluga caviar delivered by helicopter seems more likely to be this family's speed.

Quote from: Meatie Pie on July 31, 2015, 09:28:58 PM
How very postmodern, these contrarian critiques of the "uproar".

You guys are outraged at outrage.

People want to see a douche answer for his transgressions, by all accounts legal ones. No need to complicate it.

Exactly. Or rather, in this case, a dentist whose drill is apparently too small.

Little Hater

Quote from: The General on July 31, 2015, 11:08:00 PM
No, I just think it really demonstrates how easily manipulated people are.  Nobody would have even heard about this story, except for the fact that it was selected for their consumption by people who were counting on the fact that it would stir up page views and click bait.

What luxurious lives people must lead to have the time to be outraged by the killing of an animal that they didn't even know existed in a country that they couldn't identify on a map on a continent where millions of people don't even have access to clean drinking water. Hell with this story

This. If the mad dentist hadn't come along, said lion would, of course, have lived forever, just like Bambi and Thumper.

b_dubb

This story reminds of those Boy Scout troop leaders who knocked over those naturally formed rock structures in a national park and were sent to prison.  Just really, really, really dumb.  But in this case a lot of cruelty.

The really pathetic thing is that in this day and age a lion hunt consists of driving some asshole out to the bush in a Range Rover, finding a lion and then the worthless of piece of shot pops open the sun roof on the Range Rover. Pathetic.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Little Hater on August 01, 2015, 04:25:57 AM
This. If the mad dentist hadn't come along, said lion would, of course, have lived forever, just like Bambi and Thumper.


No; but it would have lived long enough for one of it's own offspring to take his place. The other males would be driven off to form their own prides. That's what nature does; provides the equilibrium. However some twat comes along without any testicles and hopes his balls drop at last after killing yet another large possibly endangered species.

I agree with what Albrecht said about the killing for Oriental 'medicines'. Tigers, Rhinos, pretty much anything with a pulse killed to satisfy primitive superstition.

I have no problem with hunting if the hunter is going to eat it. Feed his family/village etc, or killing vermin. But killing animals for 'fun' is disgusting.

I remember when I was a kid I was throwing stones in the garden and spotted a mouse, and was trying to hit it with pebbles from about ten yards; My old man came out of the house and saw me. Jeeze, the first and only time I think I saw my dad really lose it. He went ballistic and shook my world (I was somewhere inside it shitting myself), after that I wouldn't dream of hurting another animal for kicks.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 01, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
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No; but it would have lived long enough for one of it's own offspring to take his place. The other males would be driven off to form their own prides. That's what nature does; provides the equilibrium. However some twat comes along without any testicles and hopes his balls drop at last after killing yet another large possibly endangered species.

I agree with what Albrecht said about the killing for Oriental 'medicines'. Tigers, Rhinos, pretty much anything with a pulse killed to satisfy primitive superstition.

I have no problem with hunting if the hunter is going to eat it. Feed his family/village etc, or killing vermin. But killing animals for 'fun' is disgusting

I remember when I was a kid I was throwing stones in the garden and spotted a mouse, and was trying to hit it with pebbles from about ten yards; My old man came out of the house and saw me. Jeeze, the first and only time I think I saw my dad really lose it. He went ballistic and shook my world (I was somewhere inside it shitting myself), after that I wouldn't dream of hurting another animal for kicks.

This ^^^

Your dad's a good man. That's what good dad's do: set their kids straight when they need it even with little critters like mice and pebbles. My own dad used to hold wee birds that fell from the nest and feed them with eyedroppers. He set me a great example. He never passed one of these little creatures by with a lecture on how many robins or sparrows there were, he sat down with me in the front yard and fed it until it either grew strong and lived, or died. And when one of these birds died in the palm of his hand, I remember too how it affected him. To this day, he's my gold standard.

I grew up in a small NC town in the 50-60's. There was a private"community center" owned by a local industrialist. There was a little zoo there and they had a lion there. I woke up every morning to the lion roaring as I lived about 5-6 blocks away. It got loose one day and the local police killed it. It was sad not to wake up to the roar anymore.

Quote from: Unquenchable Angst on August 01, 2015, 09:12:12 AM
I grew up in a small NC town in the 50-60's. There was a private"community center" owned by a local industrialist. There was a little zoo there and they had a lion there. I woke up every morning to the lion roaring as I lived about 5-6 blocks away. It got loose one day and the local police killed it. It was sad not to wake up to the roar anymore.


The lion was mercifully  euthinized by the police. A small enclosure for such a magnificent beast serves only to ensure the beast is slowly driven insane.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 01, 2015, 09:54:11 AM

The lion was mercifully  euthinized by the police. A small enclosure for such a magnificent beast serves only to ensure the beast is slowly driven insane.

^^^ Agree entirely.

Chine

This is awful. After reading that 'Jericho' has been protecting Cecil's Cubs. Now, Jericho has been killed..

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/01/world/cecil-the-lion-brother-jericho-illegally-killed/index.html

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Chine on August 01, 2015, 11:44:10 AM
This is awful. After reading that 'Jericho' has been protecting Cecil's Cubs. Now, Jericho has been killed..

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/01/world/cecil-the-lion-brother-jericho-illegally-killed/index.html


Dreadful. Fucking awful.  >:(

albrecht

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 01, 2015, 09:54:11 AM

The lion was mercifully  euthinized by the police. A small enclosure for such a magnificent beast serves only to ensure the beast is slowly driven insane.
There was some guy who had a tiger as a "pet" some decades ago. I actually saw him "walking it" at one of our local creeks once and you would see it in the back of his suburban sometimes. Then his property got annexed to the city and it became illegal to have large cats. He refused to give it up. Police and Animal Control came out to seize the animal, for its own good, and killed it. It was a crazy situation (who would own a friggin' tiger) but also the ineptness of the City and too force the issue to enforce the code (even though, originally it was legal and only by the city aggrandizement did he, and the tiger, come under their regulations.) The excuse was that animal control didn't know the proper amount of sedative to use in their dart guns and "over estimated" and killed the tiger.

ps: now Cecil's brother is killed? And IN the park itself by a poacher? Names please? Let us start the online bullying. That is crazy. Hope he will be prosecuted. I think African countries should start a programs where people can go and hunt poachers? Maybe bounties on them? Humans are 'the most dangerous game' after all and would actually be a contest....

Absolutely vile effing twat. Sometimes I hate people, or rather, the brainless destructive ones. 

I hope there is a name forthcoming.

3OctaveFart

There are conflicting reports on this.

Chine

Quote from: Meatie Pie on August 01, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
There are conflicting reports on this.

Ok, just now seeing reports he is still alive. You seeing that too?

3OctaveFart

From the Facebooks:

"False information being put out about Jericho - brother to Cecil - being shot today. According to Brent Staplekamp at Hwange Lion Research, Jericho was alive and well at 8.30 tonight and moving around Antoinette Estate ( where Cecil was shot) with a female. I can assure you no one is hunting lion on Antoinette after the Cecil incident!!
This false information probably stems from a current Parks investigation into another lion shot on a nearby farm on 2nd July. More information to follow!! Just wait..."

The General

Quote from: Little Hater on August 01, 2015, 04:25:57 AM
This. If the mad dentist hadn't come along, said lion would, of course, have lived forever, just like Bambi and Thumper.


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: The General on August 01, 2015, 12:28:52 PM



Yes, but it's been established that they don't live forever; your point?

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on July 31, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
Well...uh..em.....I support this part of your post.

And I thank you for your limited support. You are adept at sensing when I am about to run myself over a cliff sans any Catcher in the goddamn rye.

Quote from: Meatie Pie on July 31, 2015, 09:37:33 PM
4chan and Anonymous hactivists go about their advocacy in strange ways, but it seems they would crawl up the ass of a Walter Palmer for the sport of it.

My government "spook" f(r)iend believes this is the case. I hope you're both correct! It will prove to be highly entertaining, even if I am not following the news at the precise moment when/if it occurs.

While there is zero doubt that "they" are able to initiate, I suspect Palmer must sufficiently annoy specific individuals before fireworks blast his ass.

So to speak.




Quote from: Jackstar on August 01, 2015, 01:49:51 AM
Perhaps you didn't actually read the article. Hiding out at The Four Seasons and having Beluga caviar delivered by helicopter seems more likely to be this family's speed.

Ah, I get it now.  It's proletarian penis envy that's behind all this smoldering outrage of yours.  Makes sense.  You can haz a little of my pity.

Quote from: b_dubb on August 01, 2015, 07:30:09 AM
the worthless of piece of shot pops open the sun roof

I always get a kick out of your mangled syntax on the board and interminable pauses to organize your thoughts on the Gabcast.  You're a gem.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 01, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
pretty much anything with a pulse killed to satisfy primitive superstition.

Ironic.  Here in the states, primitive superstition is much of the motive behind NOT killing anything with a pulse.  QuickKarl (a primitive if there ever was one) is carrying the water on this topic here on Bellgab.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 01, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
after that I wouldn't dream of hurting another animal for kicks.

Except Falkie and his bitch.

Quote from: Unscreened Caller on August 01, 2015, 09:08:48 AM
This ^^^

Your dad's a good man. That's what good dad's do: set their kids straight when they need it even with little critters like mice and pebbles. My own dad used to hold wee birds that fell from the nest and feed them with eyedroppers. He set me a great example. He never passed one of these little creatures by with a lecture on how many robins or sparrows there were, he sat down with me in the front yard and fed it until it either grew strong and lived, or died. And when one of these birds died in the palm of his hand, I remember too how it affected him. To this day, he's my gold standard.

Were you aware that Falkie has killed two kittens, one by stepping on it and one by sitting on it?

Accidents happen, but twice?

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on August 01, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
Were you aware that Falkie has killed two kittens, one by stepping on it and one by sitting on it?

Accidents happen, but twice?

Oh jeebus, Mr Bill with fur. The only reason why I'm not gagging is I don't believe anyone could do that. Or maybe I don't want to believe anyone could do that. 

Are you quite sure one is not still stuck in his underwear?

Jackstar




WhiteCrow

Quote from: Little Hater on August 01, 2015, 04:25:57 AM
This. If the mad dentist hadn't come along, said lion would, of course, have lived forever, just like Bambi and Thumper.

Please... Reptilian Dentist.

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