The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[trostol]

Cool graphic of the Saturn V I found on Reddit
http://i.imgur.com/NAok3jp.jpg

nifty

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Cool graphic of the Saturn V I found on Reddit
http://i.imgur.com/NAok3jp.jpg

Thanks Gravity. Nice expanded view. Big f*kin pic though - lol

[GravitySucks]

Thanks Gravity. Nice expanded view. Big f*kin pic though - lol

B f*kin rocket. That's whynI posted the link and not the pic.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Isnt that bastard working for noory anyway? Falkie i mean

That's what Falkie says

The Falkie thread gave me eye herpes.

That's because you were touching your eye inappropriately while reading it.

He's a non-issue for me. I'm not interested in train wreck reality TV, which is what his thread boils down to really. Plus his whole narrative is caught up with Dave, whom I no longer listen to. The only problem I have is when the really vile Falkie thread people get bored and start shitting in the other threads. They were in the AB thread a few days ago going after Rowland during Leogate.

Totally seconded

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

B f*kin rocket. That's whynI posted the link and not the pic.

Thank Gawd - especially for those w/ bandwidth caps

[maureen]

Speed of consciousness is instantaneous. Speed of light is slow as molasses in the galaxy.

very nicely said--- simple, clear and classic. thank you

[GravitySucks]

very nicely said--- simple, clear and classic. thank you

Being a rocket scientist, the speed of thought has always intrigued me.

[onan]

Being a rocket scientist, the speed of thought has always intrigued me.

In the human context, the signals carried by the large-diameter, myelinated neurons that link the spinal cord to the muscles can travel at speeds ranging from 70-120 meters per second (m/s) (156-270 miles per hour[mph]), while signals traveling along the same paths carried by the small-diameter, unmyelinated fibers of the pain receptors travel at speeds ranging from 0.5-2 m/s (1.1-4.4 mph).

http://earthsky.org/human-world/what-is-the-speed-of-thought


much slower than the molasses of light

[Claudius]

I've been out for a bit and haven't tuned in for almost two months... please tell me the bank teller phone still blares away in the background of the show.

[trostol]

I've been out for a bit and haven't tuned in for almost two months... please tell me the bank teller phone still blares away in the background of the show.

sort of..it stopped for a while but has been blaring lately

[Claudius]

sort of..it stopped for a while but has been blaring lately

At least tell me that his chair creaks like the hold of an old ship

[GravitySucks]

In the human context, the signals carried by the large-diameter, myelinated neurons that link the spinal cord to the muscles can travel at speeds ranging from 70-120 meters per second (m/s) (156-270 miles per hour[mph]), while signals traveling along the same paths carried by the small-diameter, unmyelinated fibers of the pain receptors travel at speeds ranging from 0.5-2 m/s (1.1-4.4 mph).

http://earthsky.org/human-world/what-is-the-speed-of-thought


much slower than the molasses of light

Don't try real scientific facts to argue your point, I am clearly referring to hyper dimensional torsion field thoughts.

p.s.  Those times only apply to thoughts that require actions or reactions.

[albrecht]

In the human context, the signals carried by the large-diameter, myelinated neurons that link the spinal cord to the muscles can travel at speeds ranging from 70-120 meters per second (m/s) (156-270 miles per hour[mph]), while signals traveling along the same paths carried by the small-diameter, unmyelinated fibers of the pain receptors travel at speeds ranging from 0.5-2 m/s (1.1-4.4 mph).

http://earthsky.org/human-world/what-is-the-speed-of-thought


much slower than the molasses of light

Not to mention "free will" is highly suspect these days. (Can't wait until lawyers get a hold on that.)

[trostol]

At least tell me that his chair creaks like the hold of an old ship

nope..we believe he w-d 40's his chair lol

[zeebo]

nope..we believe he w-d 40's his chair hair lol

fixed

[trostol]

fixed

no way...Hoagie is a dapper dan man

[zeebo]

no way...Hoagie is a dapper dan man ....

I stand corrected, the bolo ties alone clearly indicate such dapperness.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

You all thought Hoagland was crazy!  You all thought him mad!

I bring you the Houston Dome proposal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThRFQ-oOXT0



Houston.. Hoagland.. Houston... ?  Coincidence, I think not!

One more thing:  Houston is at 29.5.  That's all I'm saying.

[onan]

Don't try real scientific facts to argue your point, I am clearly referring to hyper dimensional torsion field thoughts.

p.s.  Those times only apply to thoughts that require actions or reactions.

I should listened to the show for context, my bad.

[Mild Bill]

very nicely said--- simple, clear and classic. thank you

Thank you for your feedback. 

[Mild Bill]

Being a rocket scientist, the speed of thought has always intrigued me.

Thought and consciousness are not the same.

[ziznak]

shhhhh.... you guys are scaring the starz... they have feelins ya know?

[onan]

Thought and consciousness are not the same.

Physiologically, what is the difference?

[Mild Bill]

Physiologically, what is the difference?

Thought can be scientifically measured; consciousness can not.

[inuk2600]

Thought can be scientifically measured; consciousness can not.

I believe a definition of terms is in order.

[Mild Bill]

I believe a definition of terms is in order.

To a materialist, thought and consciousness are brain-related. To a non-materialist, they are not.

[onan]

Thought can be scientifically measured; consciousness can not.

Consciousness stems from organic thought. Perceptions that allow for understanding our existence stem from neurochemical processes within our brain. Without those processes there would be no consciousness. This is where the brain/mind conversation always breaks down. The statement that the mind supersedes the brain is all well and good until the brain is dead.

We can measure electrical signals and current within the brain. We can measure the amount of energy being used by specific areas of the brain. We can't determine what a precise thought is. At some point all of those electrochemical processes become our sum total of experience. Consciousness is within that process.

[onan]

To a materialist, thought and consciousness are brain-related. To a non-materialist, they are not.

Try walking on a non-material sidewalk.

[Mild Bill]

Consciousness stems from organic thought. Perceptions that allow for understanding our existence stem from neurochemical processes within our brain. Without those processes there would be no consciousness. This is where the brain/mind conversation always breaks down. The statement that the mind supersedes the brain is all well and good until the brain is dead.

We can measure electrical signals and current within the brain. We can measure the amount of energy being used by specific areas of the brain. We can't determine what a precise thought is. At some point all of those electrochemical processes become our sum total of experience. Consciousness is within that process.

Thought and consciousness are not the same. A debate or argument would be unproductive. Let us agree to disagree. 

[onan]

Thought and consciousness are not the same. A debate or argument would be unproductive. Let us agree to disagree. 

Fair enough