The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[CronkitesGhost]

I'm new to this forum but if there are people here who have contact with ShayP off the forum they should check in with him to see if he's ok and if not see if there's something they can do to help.

[oy-way]

I'm new to this forum but if there are people here who have contact with ShayP off the forum they should check in with him to see if he's ok and if not see if there's something they can do to help.

By the time they read this in the morning he might be dead already, slowly decaying in the summer heat.
I hope he doesn't come back as a ghost to harras & spook Bellgabbers

[oy-way]

But with several new accounts registered in last few days it's possible that ShayP is just playing a game with us,
and will be posting under a new name in next few days. lol

[luicfer6G6]

But with several new accounts registered in last few days it's possible that ShayP is just playing a game with us,
and will be posting under a new name in next few days. lol

shayp fucked my mother!!!!!!!!!!!

[oy-way]

I'm new to this forum but if there are people here who have contact with ShayP off the forum they should check in with him to see if he's ok and if not see if there's something they can do to help.

I was banned few times from here, and first reaction when you see the notification that you can not post any more because you are banned,
the immediate reaction is disappointment and perhaps a touch of sadness, but right after that strange felling of relief washes over you
that you got freed from this 'trap' and you are thankful to MV for banning you.
Funny felling actually.
First banning hurts the most, consecutive banns you just produce smirk on you face and yawn, you go take a shower and you feel clean again.

So if person on their own decides to brake the chains I don't think it's proper to chase them and convince them to come back.
It's natural progression of life. I say let it go, let it be.
He might need a brake from all of you. Maybe even from me, lol !! haha ha

[oy-way]

https://twitter.com/p_kamontip

[luicfer6G6]

https://twitter.com/p_kamontip

Is someone doxing kek

[oy-way]

Is someone doxing kek

no it's lucifer bell's twitter. ~desu  KEK

[luicfer6G6]

no it's lucifer bell's twitter. ~desu  KEK

Doxing is bad and gets people banned kek

[PaulAtreides]

I'M GOING TO SEND MY NEWEST BEST FRIEND ON BELLGAB AFTER YOU.

And who might that be, Orenthal James Hoagland?

[K_Dubb]

Upon Last Night's Hoagie â€" A Sonnet

The show last night was something for the books.
Dick Cavett's back; his enterprising guest,
A science amateur, no quack'ry brooks,
And Hoagie did what Hoagie does the best.
The first hour, DNA of dinosaurs
Fain vanished 'neath his 'scope, but he did see
The flick'ring that told planets 'mongst the stars â€"
And D. B. Cooper's tie in hour three!
Once more the brave ship Hoagland smoothly glides,
A vision from the time of horns and runes.
No prophetess has augured what betides,
But this boat's buoyed by some charming tunes.
Thus ably crewed, with amiable host,
Will plunder win, or strike some barren coast?

[Scruffy]

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All this for only $9.95 a month!
Classic Hoagie.

[zeebo]

Upon Last Night's Hoagie â€" A Sonnet

The show last night was something for the books.
Dick Cavett's back; his enterprising guest,
A science amateur, no quack'ry brooks,
And Hoagie did what Hoagie does the best.
The first hour, DNA of dinosaurs
Fain vanished 'neath his 'scope, but he did see
The flick'ring that told planets 'mongst the stars â€"
And D. B. Cooper's tie in hour three!
Once more the brave ship Hoagland smoothly glides,
A vision from the time of horns and runes.
No prophetess has augured what betides,
But this boat's buoyed by some charming tunes.
Thus ably crewed, with amiable host,
Will plunder win, or strike some barren coast?

I'm quoting this in hopes some of this lyrical artistry may seep into my inner poet.

[albrecht]

Upon Last Night's Hoagie â€" A Sonnet

The show last night was something for the books.
Dick Cavett's back; his enterprising guest,
A science amateur, no quack'ry brooks,
And Hoagie did what Hoagie does the best.
The first hour, DNA of dinosaurs
Fain vanished 'neath his 'scope, but he did see
The flick'ring that told planets 'mongst the stars â€"
And D. B. Cooper's tie in hour three!
Once more the brave ship Hoagland smoothly glides,
A vision from the time of horns and runes.
No prophetess has augured what betides,
But this boat's buoyed by some charming tunes.
Thus ably crewed, with amiable host,
Will plunder win, or strike some barren coast?

Well done! BUT, considering RCH's knowledge of "the model" shouldn't he have one-eye and some ravens, or at least his two dogs (RIP, in RCH's case) near him?

[trostol]

Trostol is missing the dinosaur show he pined away for back in the day.

i was never pining for HOAGIE to do a dino show..cause we all know he'd fuck it up some how

[SciFiAuthor]

i was never pining for HOAGIE to do a dino show..cause we all know he'd fuck it up some how

This one was weird, half the show the guest talked about dinosaurs and the other half he talked about D. B. Cooper.

[zeebo]

This one was weird, half the show the guest talked about dinosaurs and the other half he talked about D. B. Cooper.

There was also something about extrasolar planetary transits, as part of the topic potpourri.

[albrecht]

There was also something about extrasolar planetary transits, as part of the topic potpourri.

I'm sorry I missed it. Will wait til next Sat for a repeat? 
You see this latest attack Zeebo? Wtf?
http://bellgab.com/random-topics/random-stupid-things-on-your-mind-post-them/msg1077421/#msg1077421

[zeebo]

I'm sorry I missed it. Will wait til next Sat for a repeat? 
You see this latest attack Zeebo? Wtf?
http://bellgab.com/random-topics/random-stupid-things-on-your-mind-post-them/msg1077421/#msg1077421

Not me ... I switched to decaf awhile back.

[Theadora]

Well, that's all very nice. I thought your idea was that the evil forces of Big Energy and Big Physics totally suppressed CF. If this research is still ongoing, still very promising, are BE&BP perhaps not as powerful as you thought?

pdx.edu/news/corvallis-advocate-cold-fusion-hoax-dream-and-future-green-energy

John Dash has been carrying out cold fusion research for almost 20 years and is counted among the leading researchers in the field for his contributions to the Trapped Neutron Catalyzed Fusion model of cold fusion. In 1989, after his department requested that he study it, Dash conducted a cold fusion experiment. To his surprise, he found positive results in his very first experiment, in less time than it took most researchers.

“I was surprised that you could see something visually in a short period of time, because what other people were saying was you had to wait a week before anything happens,” Dash said.

Dash, now 79, credits his positive results with using a very thin sheet of palladium rather than bulk palladium. The palladium foil was simply what Portland State had on hand.

“I was amazed because the originally flat electrode crumpled up,” he said. “I opted to find out what was going on. It’s been a 25-year ride now; it looks more and more promising.”

Along with excess heat, Dash has shown that transmutation has occurred in his labâ€"that is, one element, palladium, has changed into another, silver: a kind of modern-day alchemy that occurs from fission and fusion reactions and in particle colliders.

“We see excess heat, and along with that, evidence of transmutation,” Dash said. “It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack; it’s hard to find. This is a revolutionary idea but more and more people are obtaining that result.”

infinite-energy.com/resources/john-dash-pases.html

[albrecht]

Not me ... I switched to decaf awhile back.

If you CAN comment: how do you feel, or where do you stand, or the divisive Red/Gray(Grey) squirrel issue and 'immigration' issues? And how do you think various Rock Squirrels, marmots, and associated rodents, will take sides? I note the British (human) Crown seems to have taken a Red side. (Go figure.)

[zeebo]

If you CAN comment: how do you feel, or where do you stand, or the divisive Red/Gray(Grey) squirrel issue and 'immigration' issues? And how do you think various Rock Squirrels, marmots, and associated rodents, will take sides? I note the British (human) Crown seems to have taken a Red side. (Go figure.)

Squirrelhood is not a matter of fur color, style, or bushiness.  We avoid such divisive categorizations and rather save our disdain for those troublesome chipmunks.

[ZaZa]

And who might that be, Orenthal James Hoagland?

LOL, the clue is here:

OUR FRIENDSHIP STARTED WITH THIS POST:

Hi, My New Best Friend!

[ZaZa]

shayp fucked my mother!!!!!!!!!!!

nice post, and posts that follow this gem.

[Theadora]

Well, that's all very nice. I thought your idea was that the evil forces of Big Energy and Big Physics totally suppressed CF. If this research is still ongoing, still very promising, are BE&BP perhaps not as powerful as you thought?

John Dash - Cold Fusion Experiments - MIT

The video, filmed at MIT, shows a group of students with John Dash, a cold fusion / LENR pioneer, discussing their experiments in cold fusion. Dash started working with students in cold fusion beginning in 1989, mostly at Portland State University.

John Dash passed away on April 13, 2016 at the age of 82.

liveleak.com/view?i=38d_1461679092

[Nobody]

I think "Oriental Medicine" or one of those "medical" fields. Likely from an obscure "university," but, more likely, from a diploma mill via mail-order or online.

Or an acupuncture and massage "college":

I have attended numerous seminars, as well as Homeopathic classes and clinical training that were part of the accredited curriculum at the Acupuncture and Massage College, in Miami, Florida.  I am a Diplomate of the National Board of Homeopathic Examiners.

My training in Traditional Chinese Medicine, was at the above mentioned Acupuncture and Massage College, where I completed additional advanced  training in the Master’s program [emphasis added].  The courses also included Herbology and the making of traditional Chinese herbal formulas, as well as anatomy, physiology, pathology, nutrition and dietary analysis and planning, practice management, pharmacology and Western medical evaluation.

http://healthfreedomrights.com/page2.html (Falkov's own site)

Curiously enough, Falkov does not tell us how long these "numerous seminars" or her "additional advanced training" lasted, a reticence I have never encountered whenever I have spoken with genuine physicians regarding the duration of their education. 

I am also not sure what to make of the phrase, "I completed additional advanced training in the Master’s program."  Does this mean she does have a master's degree?  Or merely that she took a few courses in a master's programme and called it a day?  I'm going with the latter guess, but I have bolded the phrase above so you can have a go at forming your own interpretation.

Here:

http://healthfreedomrights.com/GULF_OIL_REMEDY.html

...you can see Falkov describe herself as a "Homeopathic Physician," which is a misnomer if ever I've heard one; either you've attended (and graduated from) medical school or you haven't. 

It's obvious in Fakov's case that she falls into the second category (unless, of course, the State of Florida allows people who have attended acupuncture and massage "colleges" to call themselves doctors, which, given the state of Florida, may indeed be the case).

All in all, I think it is safe to say that "Dr." Falkov is as much a doctor as Hoagland is a scientist. 

Then again, like many a C2C guests, she might have a legitimate degree in a legitimate course-of-study- totally unrelated to the advice or subjects she deals with on shows.

If Falkov has a legitimate degree in a legitimate course of study, I could not find any mention of it on the page found at that first link. 

She does mention that, "Old Etruscan and other styles of gold and silversmithing were studied at the Kulicke Starke Academy in Soho, N.Y. and Gemology with the Gemological Institute of America."  However, she doesn't actually specify whether she was the one who did the actual studying and, to be honest, after reading about her "Gulf Oil Remedy" ripoff, I am not inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I am, however, newly enamoured of the phrase, "Homeopathic Examiners." 

(Let's face it: the word "quacks" is far too forthright for delicate 21st century sensibilities.)

[albrecht]

Or an acupuncture and massage "college":

http://healthfreedomrights.com/page2.html (Falkov's own site)

Curiously enough, Falkov does not tell us how long these "numerous seminars" or her "additional advanced training" lasted, a reticence I have never encountered whenever I have spoken with genuine physicians regarding the duration of their education. 

I am also not sure what to make of the phrase, "I completed additional advanced training in the Master’s program."  Does this mean she does have a master's degree?  Or merely that she took a few courses in a master's programme and called it a day?  I'm going with the latter guess, but I have bolded the phrase above so you can have a go at forming your own interpretation.

Here:

http://healthfreedomrights.com/GULF_OIL_REMEDY.html

...you can see Falkov describe herself as a "Homeopathic Physician," which is a misnomer if ever I've heard one; either you've attended (and graduated from) medical school or you haven't. 

It's obvious in Fakov's case that she falls into the second category (unless, of course, the State of Florida allows people who have attended acupuncture and massage "colleges" to call themselves doctors, which, given the state of Florida, may indeed be the case).

All in all, I think it is safe to say that "Dr." Falkov is as much a doctor as Hoagland is a scientist. 

If Falkov has a legitimate degree in a legitimate course of study, I could not find any mention of it on the page found at that first link. 

She does mention that, "Old Etruscan and other styles of gold and silversmithing were studied at the Kulicke Starke Academy in Soho, N.Y. and Gemology with the Gemological Institute of America."  However, she doesn't actually specify whether she was the one who did the actual studying and, to be honest, after reading about her "Gulf Oil Remedy" ripoff, I am not inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I am, however, newly enamoured of the phrase, "Homeopathic Examiners." 

(Let's face it: the word "quacks" is far too forthright for delicate 21st century sensibilities.)

Ha. Cleverly worded. One wonders if she also got a law degree at some online "campus."

[trostol]

well this one is a doozy...both progressive and stuck in the past all in one

https://www.theothersideofmidnight.com/robert-j-sawyer-award-winning-july-292017-satsun/

[Morgus]

I notice that the OSOM website has been updated this week including a new more recent photo of Hoagie there:

[Morgus]