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The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

Started by cosmic hobo, June 24, 2015, 08:00:52 PM


WOTR

Quote from: ShayP on June 19, 2017, 12:11:02 AM
Sad part is he had no show for 8 months of that time, so essentially it's 3 producers in 1 year and 4 months.  ;D  Hoagie really must be a bastard behind the scenes. lol
While SR was classy and didn't really say much, I think it was pretty clear that Hoaggie is a complete bastard when nobody is watching.

Nobody

Quote from: WOTR on June 20, 2017, 10:56:55 PM
While SR was classy and didn't really say much, I think it was pretty clear that Hoaggie is a complete bastard when nobody is watching.

He must be, because he isn't all that deficient in the bastardry department when people are watching (or rather, listening).

You haven't lived until you've heard a twonk like Hoagland attempt to upstage James Burke, one of the world's most charming, articulate, and well-informed men (as the millions of books he has sold and TV programmes he has hosted over the course of decades will attest).  Talk about acting like a bastard, James Burke has forgotten more than Hoagland has ever known, yet Hoagland's treatment of him on-air was perfectly shameful. 

(Fortunately, it was a simple matter of the unflappable James Burke encountering the unspeakable Richard Hoagland and Burke could not help but triumph.)

I have often wondered if Hoagland ever had the effrontery to ask James Burke about the possibility of his making a second appearance on his show and what elegant, understated phrase Mr. Burke used to decline Hoagland's ghastly invitation.  No doubt hearing what he had to say on the subject would have been a treat for the human ear.


CozyRozie

Quote from: Nobody on June 21, 2017, 01:27:50 AM
He must be, because he isn't all that deficient in the bastardry department when people are watching (or rather, listening).

You haven't lived until you've heard a twonk like Hoagland attempt to upstage James Burke, one of the world's most charming, articulate, and well-informed men (as the millions of books he has sold and TV programmes he has hosted over the course of decades will attest).  Talk about acting like a bastard, James Burke has forgotten more than Hoagland has ever known, yet Hoagland's treatment of him on-air was perfectly shameful. 

(Fortunately, it was a simple matter of the unflappable James Burke coming up against the unspeakable Richard Hoagland and Burke could not help but triumph.)

I have often wondered if Hoagland ever had the effrontery to ask James Burke about the possibility of his making a second appearance on his show and what elegant, understated phrase Mr. Burke used to decline Hoagland's ghastly invitation.  No doubt hearing what he had to say on the subject would have been a treat for the human ear.

Very eloquently said.

If Hoagie wasn't so full of himself he would be (very possibly) running C2C now, or at least be weekend host every weekend.


zeebo

Quote from: Nobody on June 21, 2017, 01:27:50 AM
You haven't lived until you've heard a twonk like Hoagland attempt to upstage James Burke, one of the world's most charming, articulate, and well-informed men...

Yep, completely wasted opportunity as Hoagie lectured instead of listened.  He should've just said "Ok James, please talk about whatever you like and I'll try to keep up."

Zenman

Quote from: Chefist on June 21, 2017, 10:44:08 AM
Did Uncle Hoagy cover this story yet?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/06/21/strange-stone-circle-spotted-on-mars.html



Cool find, Chef. The article also mentions the woman-like shape and the ancient tree stump. i have to say, the rock circle looks a lot like the big fire pits we use to make in the scouts out in the desert on camp outs. Maybe a little better.

chefist

Quote from: Zenman on June 21, 2017, 03:02:04 PM
Cool find, Chef. The article also mentions the woman-like shape and the ancient tree stump. i have to say, the rock circle looks a lot like the big fire pits we use to make in the scouts out in the desert on camp outs. Maybe a little better.

Ha, exactly. It is rather interesting...perhaps it's an ancient remnant of a lava flow formation...




Zenman

Quote from: Chefist on June 21, 2017, 07:06:58 PM
Ha, exactly. It is rather interesting...perhaps it's an ancient remnant of a lava flow formation...

I'm guessing that if you take enough pictures of any vast, desolate area, you're gonna find interesting things that look a little like fire pits, ancient tree stumps, alien faces and fossilized Chinese food containers and such, each with it's own bland explanation. Kinda fun to wonder some times tho.

zeebo

Quote from: Zenman on June 21, 2017, 09:11:09 PM
I'm guessing that if you take enough pictures of any vast, desolate area, you're gonna find interesting things that look a little like fire pits, ancient tree stumps, alien faces and fossilized Chinese food containers and such, each with it's own bland explanation. Kinda fun to wonder some times tho.

As Hoagie knows, they're intentionally making such images inconclusive ... all part of the "plausible deniability" aspect of "slow disclosure".  So i.e. if you see a Martian rock that sort of looks like an engine block, well you know what's up.


PrairieGhost

Is Hoagy back on the air yet? I haven't looked into his show in ages.

Rix Gins

Quote from: PrairieGhost on June 21, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Is Hoagy back on the air yet? I haven't looked into his show in ages.

Yes, he is on Saturday and Sunday from 9:00pm to Midnight, Pacific.  Midnight to 3:00am Eastern.  He's got the same format as before.  The same guests.  And the same two or three callers, too. 

CozyRozie

Quote from: PrairieGhost on June 21, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Is Hoagy back on the air yet? I haven't looked into his show in ages.

Hoagie is back on the Air, but hairyAmy is not.

Zenman

Quote from: zeebo on June 21, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
As Hoagie knows, they're intentionally making such images inconclusive ... all part of the "plausible deniability" aspect of "slow disclosure".  So i.e. if you see a Martian rock that sort of looks like an engine block, well you know what's up.

That's nice that they're breaking it to us slowly. Couldn't find the engine block. Here's a transmission tho:

Nobody

Quote from: Rix Gins on June 21, 2017, 10:27:16 PM
Yes, he is on Saturday and Sunday from 9:00pm to Midnight, Pacific.  Midnight to 3:00am Eastern.  He's got the same format as before.  The same guests.  And the same two or three callers, too.

Apparently not the same producer, though.  At least, not if this post from Monday:

Quote from: OstrichThief on June 18, 2017, 11:58:08 PM
Didn't get through.   The producer quit.  Not sure what's going on over there

...is to be believed. 

Have there been any postings on the OSOM Bookface page lately regarding exciting opportunities for people to work for Hoagland for free?

Rix Gins

Quote from: Nobody on June 22, 2017, 05:15:08 AM
Apparently not the same producer, though.  At least, not if this post from Monday:

...is to be believed. 

Have there been any postings on the OSOM Bookface page lately regarding exciting opportunities for people to work for Hoagland for free?

I believe he tried to call in during the last five minutes of the show.  Perhaps whoever answers the phone figured there wouldn't be any time for another caller, so why bother?  And besides, Michelle had already monopolized the remaining time by then, anyway. 

Dyna-X

Quote from: Rix Gins on June 22, 2017, 08:01:22 PM
I believe he tried to call in during the last five minutes of the show.  Perhaps whoever answers the phone figured there wouldn't be any time for another caller, so why bother?  And besides, Michelle had already monopolized the remaining time by then, anyway.
The format is a tad different now - more based on a single guest for the full 3 hours with callers in the last 10-15 minutes max. Before it was more like the "panels" and callers had nearly equal time. This might work to his advantage. I couldn't imagine a 3 hour true open lines at this point without a sidekick or two.

Juan Cena

Quote from: Nobody on June 22, 2017, 05:15:08 AM
Apparently not the same producer, though.  At least, not if this post from Monday:

...is to be believed. 

Have there been any postings on the OSOM Bookface page lately regarding exciting opportunities for people to work for Hoagland for free?

Hoagie is what Trump would be like if his daddy wasn't rich.

CozyRozie

Putin is the richest man in the whole wide World  8)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Juan Cena on June 22, 2017, 11:02:04 PM
Hoagie is what Trump would be like if his daddy wasn't rich.

Trump's your rich daddy now.  ;)

Nobody

Quote from: Rix Gins on June 22, 2017, 08:01:22 PM
I believe he tried to call in during the last five minutes of the show.  Perhaps whoever answers the phone figured there wouldn't be any time for another caller, so why bother? 

Yes, it's true they were running low on time, but how many seconds does it take to answer the phone?  Isn't picking up the telephone to acknowledge the caller, even if you cannot take their call right away, considered common courtesy?

Admittedly, this is the same lot who promised to "update" everyone as to why the 13 June programme was cancelled almost as soon as it had been announced:

QuoteThe Special Broadcast for tomorrow night 6/13/17 is cancelled. We will update everybody this weekend!

...an explanation that has yet to be made.  This after being off the air for 8 months with no explanation given for that, either.  Perhaps common courtesies like keeping one's promises or explaining prolonged absences are rather thin on the ground where Hoagland is concerned.

For an Old School fellow (most of his "good" friends have been dead for a couple of decades now, at least), I must say that the manners of Hoagland and his lot have a decidedly 21st century feel about them.  Seeing as how his wardrobe has yet to move out of the year 1974 (and likely never will), perhaps his seemingly never-ending rudeness is Hoagland's idea of "keeping up with the times"?

Quote from: Rix Gins on June 22, 2017, 08:01:22 PM
And besides, Michelle had already monopolized the remaining time by then, anyway.

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Hoagland allowed Michelle to run on at length?  After all, Hoagland has time and again shown himself a dab hand at interrupting people.  Surely Michelle doesn't pose any particular difficulty in that regard?

In any event, it's glaringly obvious by now that Michelle is part of the décor of Hoagland's safe space, along with the paisley pattern wallpaper and the rather overstocked liquor cabinet (a glimpse inside of which reveals several dozen vodka bottles of the Wolfschmidt variety and nothing else).   And, like the wallpaper and the Wolfschmidt, Michelle has got to go, if only to prevent an already hackneyed show from giving listeners the sort of déjà vu they can well do without at this point.

How a transsexual person living in Japan manages to be so boring every single time is beyond me.

Zenman

Uh oh, Hoagie has some more competition springing up. Apparently JC just started his own podcast.

http://bellgab.com/radio-and-podcasts/jc-webster-show/


Zenman

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 24, 2017, 03:20:06 PM
Is Hoagie on tonight?

I think he has a publicity black-out policy now, MD. No info right up till the show starts. Maybe pre-show info is a 19.5er exclusive type deal now or something. Hey, maybe JC's on tonight.  ;D


zeebo

Quote from: Zenman on June 24, 2017, 03:34:58 PM
...Maybe pre-show info is a 19.5er exclusive type deal now or something.

A good perk of Club 19.5 would be to get clearer and more timely excuses for why there's no show tonite.

CozyRozie

Quote from: Nobody on June 23, 2017, 06:53:31 AM
Yes, it's true they were running low on time, but how many seconds does it take to answer the phone?  Isn't picking up the telephone to acknowledge the caller, even if you cannot take their call right away, considered common courtesy?

Admittedly, this is the same lot who promised to "update" everyone as to why the 13 June programme was cancelled almost as soon as it had been announced:

...an explanation that has yet to be made.  This after being off the air for 8 months with no explanation given for that, either.  Perhaps common courtesies like keeping one's promises or explaining prolonged absences are rather thin on the ground where Hoagland is concerned.

For an Old School fellow (most of his "good" friends have been dead for a couple of decades now, at least), I must say that the manners of Hoagland and his lot have a decidedly 21st century feel about them.  Seeing as how his wardrobe has yet to move out of the year 1974 (and likely never will), perhaps his seemingly never-ending rudeness is Hoagland's idea of "keeping up with the times"?

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Hoagland allowed Michelle to run on at length?  After all, Hoagland has time and again shown himself a dab hand at interrupting people.  Surely Michelle doesn't pose any particular difficulty in that regard?

In any event, it's glaringly obvious by now that Michelle is part of the décor of Hoagland's safe space, along with the paisley pattern wallpaper and the rather overstocked liquor cabinet (a glimpse inside of which reveals several dozen vodka bottles of the Wolfschmidt variety and nothing else).   And, like the wallpaper and the Wolfschmidt, Michelle has got to go, if only to prevent an already hackneyed show from giving listeners the sort of déjà vu they can well do without at this point.

How a transsexual person living in Japan manages to be so boring every single time is beyond me.

jeez,
Very well said..(and with a pinch of turmeric humor)


Gonna try Hoagland.  Just watched Falkie fumble with a phone for 10 mins.......

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