More Religion of Death, Destruction, and Oppression...

[Bart Ell]

Fermes ta gueule, tabarnac.  Children might be reading this.

Ben voyons donc! Children can't read.

[Kelt]

On a positive note, the slaughter of Frenchies by religious nutbags reminds us why we need to keep church and state separate.


Next time some Christian shitwit whines about not being allowed to force his ten commandments onto the wall of city hall they should be made to sit down and watch their spiritual cousins execute cops on the streets of Paris.

[Bart Ell]

Frenchies

Maudit tête carré.

[PB the Deplorable]

Contradiction in terms.  'Individual liberty and freedoms' demands you must evaluate everyone on their individual merits and not discriminate according to cultural bias.  That is the cost of the liberty you pretend to uphold.

This is our country.  We have every right to decide who immigrates here and who isn't welcome to immigrate here, for any reason or for no reason.  We are not obliged to extend our liberties and freedoms to foreigners outside this country - they have their own governments and laws. 

Not only are we not able to tell which of these people mean us harm, we have ample evidence that a certain number among those who come to the West do.  Or their children will.  The Constitution is not a suicide pact. 

Why import trouble?  Geez, these Libs would have had us giving visas to Nazis during WWII - as long as they voted Democrat and signed up for government handouts. 

[Kelt]

Maudit tête carré.

Le fromage est dans l'arbre... Vite! Cherche pour ma pantalons!

[albrecht]

On a positive note, the slaughter of Frenchies by religious nutbags reminds us why we need to keep church and state separate.


Next time some Christian shitwit whines about not being allowed to force his ten commandments onto the wall of city hall they should be made to sit down and watch their spiritual cousins execute cops on the streets of Paris.

But why would your precious Muslims attack the French? I appreciate your hatred of Christianity but France hasn't had a state church in a long, long time (they even beheaded a few and reclaimed church property in some cases way before the official 1905 modern law?) France, especially Paris, is very secular. And has allowed in millions of Islamists to emigrate there and have bent over backwards to accommodate them. Why wouldn't they attack other countries in Europe that still has state churches or that even has royalty pledged to defend them? Certainly attacking Christians there would serve your, or their, purposes better if the goal is to eliminate Christianity or any public posting of those dreadful and onerous 10 Commandments?

[Bart Ell]

Le fromage est dans l'arbre... Vite! Cherche pour ma pantalons!

Je sais que ta mère est fière de toi et tes pantalons.

[Eddie Coyle]

    The publicly executed policeman was a Muslim named Ahmed Merabet. Poor bastard getting killed defending shitheads who probably mocked him.

   

[Kelt]

But why would your precious Muslims attack the French? I appreciate your hatred of Christianity but France hasn't had a state church in a long, long time (they even beheaded a few and reclaimed church property in some cases way before the official 1905 modern law?) France, especially Paris, is very secular. And has allowed in millions of Islamists to emigrate there and have bent over backwards to accommodate them. Why wouldn't they attack other countries in Europe that still has state churches or that even has royalty pledged to defend them? Certainly attacking Christians there would serve your, or their, purposes better if the goal is to eliminate Christianity or any public posting of those dreadful and onerous 10 Commandments?

You misunderstand from the very outset.


My contempt for religion encompasses all cults.


If you fail to understand this basic premise you won't be able to understand subsequent commentary 

[WhiteCrow]

What happened in France today is no different than Sandy Hook or Columbine.
People were killed by guns....
The solution to keep something like this from happening again, is the same for Sandy Hook, Columbine and France....
France needs tougher gun control laws!

[Kelt]

You reckon Ali and Achmed there are somehow confined by gun restrictions?

[Eddie Coyle]

What happened in France today is no different than Sandy Hook or Columbine.

    So the kids at Sandy Hook and Columbine slandered "The Prophet" and were targeted for death?

[WhiteCrow]

Actually a lot more terrorist attacks like what happened today in France are necessary, to wake up the masses..... "Gathering Storm"

[Kelt]

Je sais que ta mère est fière de toi et tes pantalons.

Mes pantalons sont grandes at splendide, d'accord.

[Kelt]

Actually a lot more terrorist attacks like what happened today in France are necessary, to wake up the masses..... "Gathering Storm"

Why did that scene at the country pub in Cabaret suddenly spring to mind?


http://youtu.be/29Mg6Gfh9Co

[WhiteCrow]

    So the kids at Sandy Hook and Columbine slandered "The Prophet" and were targeted for death?

Now Eddie I know you know... But to make it clear for others, the libs knee jerk reaction to mass killings, are to ban guns. So wouldn't it be logical to apply the same solution to 'any' mass killing?

[Kelt]

Actually a lot more terrorist attacks like what happened today in France are necessary, to wake up the masses..... "Gathering Storm"

Why did that scene at the country pub in Cabaret suddenly spring to mind?

...the libs...

Ah, nvm.  Figured it out.

[WhiteCrow]

Why did that scene at the country pub in Cabaret suddenly spring to mind?


http://youtu.be/29Mg6Gfh9Co

Yep that's it... Thanks for posting the link.

[Catsmile]

You misunderstand from the very outset.


My contempt for religion encompasses all cults.


If you fail to understand this basic premise you won't be able to understand subsequent commentary 

They are binary thinkers if you hate one thing it means you must love the other.
It's like talking to a 3 year old really. Simple black and white models are all the can process. Yet they are rapid to call you stupid, or a liberal if you don't agree with them. Which they deem as an insult, were it not coming from them it might bear weight as such. 

[analog kid]

Now Eddie I know you know... But to make it clear for others, the libs knee jerk reaction to mass killings, are to ban guns. So wouldn't it be logical to apply the same solution to 'any' mass killing?

That's why I always vote straight-ticket Republican - I know I'm voting for Jesus and my second amendment rights.

God, Gays and Guns, Amen.



Just look at that trigger discipline *beams*

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Whoever was on 24 was a good shot.

[WhiteCrow]

You misunderstand from the very outset.


My contempt for religion encompasses all cults.


If you fail to understand this basic premise you won't be able to understand subsequent commentary 

I don't like to get into these around and around tit for tat 'belief' discussions....
But... For your consideration... a large percentage of the population are just plain ol stupid.
Alway were and always will be. Many organized mature religions teach values and have a mechanizm, to enforce these moral values that benefit the larger social order.


If the institution of mature 'just' religions are discarded, something else will fill the void.
Like Secularism... A system that doesn't offer any means to discourage behavior that is detrimental to social order.


Example: Having babies out of wedlock:


Secular based welfare state: encourages having a lot of babies with unknown fathers = reward, more income to mother.


Religion based moral code:  Unwed mother, Repent and put that first kid up for adoption, and get your life together, we'll help you out. Or keep on being a 'stupid' Bitch and go to Hell... But we'll still pray for you.

[mikuthing01]

That's why I always vote straight-ticket Republican - I know I'm voting for Jesus and my second amendment rights.

God, Gays and Guns, Amen.

Must be nice to live in a state where republicans are all pro second amendment. My state has to many RINO's and find myself being forced to vote third party often.

[Eddie Coyle]

Must be nice to live in a state where republicans are all pro second amendment. My state has to many RINO's and find myself being forced to vote third party often.

    If such an awful beast like  "Law and Order:Paris" existed, today's events would replicated except the perps would either be (a) militants trying to bring forth the restoration of the ancien regime. Or (b) a rival cartoonist.
   
 

[Kelt]

I think that example may be both skewed and inaccurate.


For example;


Catholic system - have as many children as nature dictates because contraception is a sin, meaning hordes of children that the parent/s can neither afford to feed nor educate. I can give a real life example of the Christians next door to us, the mother just yesterday giving birth to child number 10, perhaps 14 months after child number 9.  She's still of breeding age so she's probably not done yet. She could end up with 15 or 16, it being "God's will" and that's a direct quote.


Secular System - Myself and the wife, an atheist and an agnostic respectively,  have one child, will only have the one child, his college fund is in great shape, he has extracurricular activities outside of his education that involve karate, swimming, soccer, snowboarding, and when we find the time, he'll be taking private lessons in either Chinese or Spanish, depending on which he prefers.   The point being he's going to be well rounded in mind, body, and outlook.  He'll be capable of contributing to society. 


This is not a hypothetical, this is a real life scenario.


[size=78%]Taking your example of a secular 'system' where a mother chooses to have multiple children in order to garner larger welfare checks, I'll bet that 75% of those mothers are, in fact, Christian, given 75% of Americans are Christian.  So this might more accurately be called the religious taking advantage of secularism.... assuming your scenario pertained specifically to a secular system, which I don't believe it does. [/size]


The Romanian government allowed women to abandon their children in orphanages under Communism, allowing the mother to 'get her life together'. This they did with relish.  It was only after the collapse of Communism that we saw the result of an abandonment program, That more closely resembles your purported 'religious' system.


The point is that a 'religious' system is in no way a 'better' system than a secular system.  This is, conversely not to say that a secular system is better than a religious system.  People will find ways of abusing systems regardless of whether it originates from humanist or religious ideology.


I certainly think the notion that shitting out a dozen or more kids because it's "God's will" (direct quote) is pretty goddamned stupid, though. Speaking from a secular point of view a much better idea is to have as many children as you think you can dedicate time, money, and effort towards making them the best humans possible.  I'm perhaps not much of a parent, because I figured one was about all I could manage to roll out to the kind of standards I wanted.

[Quick Karl]

That's why I always vote straight-ticket Republican - I know I'm voting for Jesus and my second amendment rights.

God and Guns, Amen.



Just look at that trigger discipline *beams*

Nice group!

[Catsmile]

I think that example may be both skewed and inaccurate.


For example; ...

Are you sure about all that?
Cauze my AM radio don't tell me any of that, so it can't really be true.
Hell, if Rush knew I even read all that he would revoke my Ditto card.

GOD GUNS APPLE PIE 'MURIKA BY GOD!

[Yorkshire pud]

Now Eddie I know you know... But to make it clear for others, the libs knee jerk reaction to mass killings, are to ban guns. So wouldn't it be logical to apply the same solution to 'any' mass killing?

I know, if France had the same as the US, statistically they'd have had nearer 25-30 killed yesterday instead of 12. Your logic is perfect.

    So the kids at Sandy Hook and Columbine slandered "The Prophet" and were targeted for death?

Nope. They were murdered because firearms are legally available to people who aren't of mentally sound mind; who have a deep seated paranoid grudge. Some may even have believed 'god' told them to do it.

[Eddie Coyle]

    Yes, trach recipient Alex Jones is doing his "false flag" schtick on his abominable radio show. The expert on warfare, because he watches videos, believes the gunmen's movements were "Western", not what he's accustomed to from the "thousands" of ISIS videos he has claimed to view. And, ya know, West Germany did a false flag in Oct '72 with a staged hijacking so they could release the remaining Munich suspects...so clearly that relates to today.

    But the coward doesn't own any of his comments. He always couches them and uses straw men/devil's advocacy. What a dickhead. He makes Noory seem like Einstein and Murrow rolled into one


     

[analog kid]

Nice group!

With a rifle? Cake.