The holocaust and Hitler... What can I say?

[WOTR]

Yeah, I certainly hear what you're saying.  Nothing makes a person bitchy like too many mentions of the Holocaust.  The annihilation of millions of Jews just gets old real fast.  And I don't care how many Einsteins or other similar great brains might have gotten burned up in the crime.  You just get all "Holocausted" out, and the next thing you know you're kicking the dog or the cat around the room.  Jabbing a fork at the parrot.You just get "gas chamber fatigue," you-know-whuttum-sayin?'  They don't seem to let you get the taste of ashes out of your mouth.  You get that "Post-Jewmatic Stress Disorder."  I guess you can tell I'm not Jewish either.No need to apologize, my hapless fellow gentile.  We all understand.  We get it.  You're an idiot.

So, to keep pointless drivel off of the Noory sucks thread I have opened this thread and almost expect it to drop to the bottom of the page fairly quickly.

I will, again, declare that you can have too many pointless references to Hitler and the Holocaust and just get sick of that example being used every time we need an easy way to illustrate that men are evil.

I fully support the example being used to make the point when it has some relevance- but every time somebody needs a one-liner it seems to pop up.  Though I am fully aware that this apparently makes me an enemy of Jewish people everywhere, I consider that throwing around the word Hitler and holocaust at every opportunity actually detracts from what occurred.  When deciding to use it for yet another joke (this time deciding that it shows God needs an intervention) it is completely pointless and another "throw away" line.

So, before accusing me of not being sensitive enough, perhaps consider what we are now arguing over.  I said that it is overused and that you can have too many references to one event.  Now, somehow, you now have me cheering the gas chamber.  (In short, go fuck yourself you self righteous, judgmental jackass.) 

If you actually want to make a post that is more than one line, please feel free.  If you want to discuss what happened rather than make a joke, I am willing to engage.  You will probably find that I do not "cheer the gas chamber" and if you bring something to the table aside from a throw away one line joke, I will not even say that you can have too much discussion about the actual events, history or the people who were persecuted.

Present books that are open and being read include "IBM and the holocaust" as well as the "biography of Judas."  Both are excellent books and depict historical events and attitudes.  I do not believe that the event can be over discussed- only that using the event as a one liner (or, yet again, to prove that men are evil) really has been overdone.

If you will excuse me, I am off to read my holocaust denying literature and call up a few Nazi friends to go paint graffiti on the walls of the local synagogue.


***Upon re-reading this I realize that I lied.  "the biography of Judas" is not really an excellent book.  It is dry and has taken me a long time to get 3/4 of the way through as I may as well read about art history.  However, the historical insights are interesting.  I believe the book states that the bible has 40 words written on Judas... it is more of a perspective about how the West depicted him (and, symbolically the Jews) though art and literature than it is an actual biography...

[Kelt]

"Antisemitic" is thrown out pretty quickly whenever someone criticises Israel in particular, but it's also used when someone doesn't show 'enough' horror towards the holocaust.


Now I'm a pretty apathetic sort of person when it comes to most things, and I've been called an antisemite for both being critical of Israel and for not caring enough about how horrific the holocaust was. Fortunately, being apathetic, I don't really give a fuck if someone thinks I'm antisemitic or not, so it all kind of balances out.


I'll continue to be critical of Israel when it acts like a dick, and I'll continue to be not all that bothered by an event that happened long before most of us were born, perpetrated by an organisation that was defeated long before most of us were born, and for which my own family suffered loss.


My own opinion is that the holocaust is no excuse for Israel to act like cunts.  That's probably antisemitic in many people's eyes, but I would refer those people back to the bolded portion in the second paragraph.  I'm not even going to try to balance that by pandering with a 'but, hey, on the other hand me and my Jewish buddies...." because I only really know two Jews... one was a workmate, and a total spastic, the other is a relative and I suspect he's flaming gay, despite his attempts at masculinity by growing a weird beard thing.   So I can't even say that in my own experience Jews are awesome folks and I love to party with them, because my real life experience has been that they're fucking weirdos at best. 


My whole Jew experience has been one of moderate irritation.


If that makes me antisemitic... and I'm told it does... then, meh, don't really care.

[paladin1991]

Well let me ask this.  Your oven....in your kitchen.  Is it standard home size or is it institutional in size?  Gas, electric or convection?  Do your spazz jew or gay jew associates act nervous around your oven? 

Or do you think labeling your jews is a problem in itself?

[Tarbaby]

Armageddon outta here.

[NowhereInTime]

Fucking thread is useless.

[paladin1991]

Fucking thread is useless.

Yep

[Kelt]

We'll do this after Hogmany

[paladin1991]

What... you mean like.. 

Mmmmmmebbe. 

[Kelt]

Aw, I was going to repost after I'd celebrated Hogmany, and now you've gone and stitched me up like a kipper


Let's just say that targetting an entire demographic for wholesale, industrialied slaughter is poor form.


That's the kind of thing you're only allowed to do if you're the winner of the contest.

[WOTR]

Well let me ask this.  Your oven....in your kitchen.  Is it standard home size or is it institutional in size?  Gas, electric or convection? 

Thanks for the laugh... I once called up one of the local funeral homes and said "I just need you to put (him) in the furnace and turn on the gas because I don't have one large enough at home."  This was in reference to having my father cremated (I believe that I had made mention on another thread that I did not do things in the "normal" way when it came to his funeral...)  I had not considered my residential sized gas oven at the time as being sufficient.


I am actually still friends with the funeral director who took my call that day...

[WOTR]

Fucking thread is useless.

Yes and no... The only purpose was to keep this crap off of the main board.  Nobody who goes to the Noory sucks thread needs to be subjected to two people bickering over this.  At least here, it is in the politics section where I generally expect to find this type of crap and petty nitpicking. 


Besides that- with the unmoderated nature of this section people are free to inform me that I am a hate filled, motherfucker of a racist if they so choose and not have to mince words.  (I may disagree with the assessment, but who knows- perhaps I have lived my life blind to yet one more of my many faults?)

As I said, I kind of expected it to fall to the bottom pretty quickly- not receive 8 replies.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I hear what you're saying.  Noory really sucks.  Take tonight for instance.  He's only doing two hours of predictions and I doubt he'll even get to reviewing last year's predictions.

[Unquenchable Angst]

Really want to know what it is all about?
Darker and deeper than you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

long video, Please watch.

[mikuthing01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g

http://vimeo.com/42012246

[pate]

Belosian somesuch...

[WildCard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g

6+ hours saying Hitler wasn't such a bad guy.
I agree. He had a good idea. He just didn't have the balls to carry it out.

http://vimeo.com/42012246

According to this, he never even got started.

[WildCard]

Belosian somesuch...

Sorry to repeat myself, but - huh?

[Delphi]

Kelt,  I totally agree.. What you say reminds me of blacks and slavery... very good post

[Kelt]

Living near Metro Detroit as I do, it's somewhat routine to hear of moves to recompense all African Americans for slavery.  I'd probably go along with that, and any and all African Americans who were enslaved by the United States should absolutely be allowed to go along to their local city hall and collect a cheque... what Americans call a 'check'... for... I believe the number bandied around last time was 300,000 USD per person.


All they'll have to do is produce their slave papers and collect money, money, money!



By my estimates that means that approximately $0.00 should be paid out in reparations.