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Best Disinfectant

Started by albrecht, October 16, 2014, 10:31:30 AM

albrecht

Ignoring politics, at least for a few posts, what is the best disinfectant; both for rooms (door handles, keyboards, mice, faucets, toliets, etc) and for hand/body washing?
-Lysol (spray type)
-Bleach (Clorox) spray type (or homemade?) (Straight bleach or watered down?)
-difference between the pre-made "wipes" of either type, spray bottle, or liquid?
-Alcohol handgel (I noticed only 65% ethyl alcohol, maybe an atomizer with more pure alcohol better?)
-Regular soap
-Anti-bacterial soap
-Hydrogen Peroxide
-Denatured alcohol
-Vodka or Everclear (has added internal benefits to buying.)
Just wondering because I'm sure stores are ramping up sales (and maybe prices) due to the Ebola scare. But also coming into flu season and with whatever might be coming up from down south.


wr250

Quote from: albrecht on October 16, 2014, 10:31:30 AM
Ignoring politics, at least for a few posts, what is the best disinfectant; both for rooms (door handles, keyboards, mice, faucets, toliets, etc) and for hand/body washing?
-Lysol (spray type)
-Bleach (Clorox) spray type (or homemade?) (Straight bleach or watered down?)
-difference between the pre-made "wipes" of either type, spray bottle, or liquid?
-Alcohol handgel (I noticed only 65% ethyl alcohol, maybe an atomizer with more pure alcohol better?)
-Regular soap
-Anti-bacterial soap
-Hydrogen Peroxide
-Denatured alcohol
-Vodka or Everclear (has added internal benefits to buying.)
Just wondering because I'm sure stores are ramping up sales (and maybe prices) due to the Ebola scare. But also coming into flu season and with whatever might be coming up from down south.

bleach i capful per gallon to sanitize any surface (note sanitize is not the same as sterilize)
denatured alcohol will also sanitize (isopropyl  50% or better alcohol)
those are not good for hashing hands/body
use regular soap and clean water, being careful to scrub both hands together for at least 20 seconds , and make sure all the parts of the hands are  scrubbed.
hydrogen peroxide works to, but loses its power quickly once opened.
handgels are easy to carry so might be an option  when going out.

albrecht

Quote from: wr250 on October 16, 2014, 10:56:51 AM
bleach i capful per gallon to sanitize any surface (note sanitize is not the same as sterilize)
denatured alcohol will also sanitize (isopropyl  50% or better alcohol)
those are not good for hashing hands/body
use regular soap and clean water, being careful to scrub both hands together for at least 20 seconds , and make sure all the parts of the hands are  scrubbed.
hydrogen peroxide works to, but loses its power quickly once opened.
handgels are easy to carry so might be an option  when going out.
Man, I use a greater concentration of bleach for normal cleaning purposes....even before the Ebola etc scare. I guess I was over-using. Hahaha. Wondered why my nose and sinus cavity always itches after.

So it would seem bleach is both the cheapest and most effective from normal grocery choices of Lysol, Ammonia, and Bleach for household disinfecting.

wr250

Quote from: albrecht on October 16, 2014, 01:50:57 PM
Man, I use a greater concentration of bleach for normal cleaning purposes....even before the Ebola etc scare. I guess I was over-using. Hahaha. Wondered why my nose and sinus cavity always itches after.

So it would seem bleach is both the cheapest and most effective from normal grocery choices of Lysol, Ammonia, and Bleach for household disinfecting.

what i quoted was the recommendations of the health dept for use in restaurants. its strong enough to kill germs while not destroying your hands .
you can make bleach from powdered pool shock, if you like. most bleach in the store is 6% sodium hypoclorite.

yes beach is the cheapest and most effective for disinfecting. it is also extremely caustic, so be careful around some plastics and sensitive equipment. do not ever mix bleach and ammonia. if you live through it, you will be hating life for a few days.

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albrecht

Quote from: wr250 on October 16, 2014, 02:03:23 PM
what i quoted was the recommendations of the health dept for use in restaurants. its strong enough to kill germs while not destroying your hands .
you can make bleach from powdered pool shock, if you like. most bleach in the store is 6% sodium hypoclorite.

yes beach is the cheapest and most effective for disinfecting. it is also extremely caustic, so be careful around some plastics and sensitive equipment. do not ever mix bleach and ammonia. if you live through it, you will be hating life for a few days.
I have a bunch of muriatic acid from the pool maintenance. Maybe I should use that for cleaning and washing...(kidding.) Well, aware of the mixing bleach/ammonia/vinegar etc but thanks for the reminder. (I know they are very diluted so a non-issue, I guess, but I've wondered what is happening in our sewer systems considering all the various household chemicals being washing down there mixing around....)


VtaGeezer

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VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on October 16, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
I have a bunch of muriatic acid from the pool maintenance. Maybe I should use that for cleaning and washing...(kidding.) Well, aware of the mixing bleach/ammonia/vinegar etc but thanks for the reminder. (I know they are very diluted so a non-issue, I guess, but I've wondered what is happening in our sewer systems considering all the various household chemicals being washing down there mixing around....)
Don't forget the Clorox enema...

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on October 16, 2014, 04:51:10 PM
Don't forget the Clorox enema...
Not needed- the tumeric and Carnivora combo keeps that pretty well cleaned out, much to my chagrin. Works better than some good Indian food after a night of drinking.




albrecht

Quote from: paladin1991 on October 16, 2014, 07:51:31 PM
Vtageezer responding to any logical post.
No worries here, I expected same. I still appreciate some legitimate answers and still I am a little unclear. really, what is the best stuff. I recall Lysol (Liquid version) emergency "showers" in the hallway by biolabs along with, I think, distilled water, eye-wash stations (I forget). But also have worked in, questionable, places where employees were advised to scrub with store-bought bleach when accidents happened (non-bio but still hardly, I think, code) for various inks. And, of course, as I mention as a kid I always was told to use mineral spirits or kerosene to "wash paint off you" when trying to help paint stuff. Haha.

10% bleach-water solution was standard disinfectant mix in the hospital lab I worked in.
Lysol, not the spray but the original concentrate in the brown bottle, That is Carbolic Acid.
I sometimes make a real strong batch of colloidal silver and use that with hydrogen peroxide to wash cuts. I buy 35% peroxide and dilute.


Quote from: wr250 on October 16, 2014, 02:03:23 PM
yes beach is the cheapest and most effective for disinfecting. it is also extremely caustic, so be careful around some plastics and sensitive equipment. do not ever mix bleach and ammonia. if you live through it, you will be hating life for a few days.

My grandmother took a bucket of that mix into a closet one Spring for cleaning.  She, luckily, fell back "out" of the closet when she passed out.  She was really sick for over a week.  Hence my aversion to deep cleaning anything.   ::)

Quote from: albrecht on October 16, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
Well, aware of the mixing bleach/ammonia/vinegar etc but thanks for the reminder. (I know they are very diluted so a non-issue, I guess, but I've wondered what is happening in our sewer systems considering all the various household chemicals being washing down there mixing around....)

Isn't that why all those baby alligators grow into man-eating monsters after they're flushed?



Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 17, 2014, 03:01:19 AM
Tea tree oil.

Anti-fungal, also. Only thing that worked on my son's athlete's foot all through high school.  Love those football locker rooms.


area51drone

Quote from: cweb on October 17, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
I use this:


My favorite part is "From the Makers of Moon Glass"... hahahahah

aldousburbank

They say that sunshine is the best disinfectant. I prefer the orange sunshine.


Sunlight is ; specifically 254nm wavelength UV.

wr250

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 20, 2014, 10:13:37 PM
They say that sunshine is the best disinfectant. I prefer the orange sunshine.


onan

It is a common misunderstanding that sunlight kills bacteria. If it did, there would be few germs in our day to day environment. But bacteria are everywhere and many of them truly like sunshine.

For most household cleanings a 1:99 mixture of bleach to water is very effective. If there are significant contaminants, such as blood or vomit, a 1:49 mixture will effectively disinfect. The problem with bleach is it decomposes in a short time. A fresh mixture should probably be made every day or so.


Wintermute

Iodine, Bleach, UV radiation, Chlorine, Phosphorus... anything extremely high or low pH.

Now use on your hands? Good ole soap and water, but there are stronger soaps on the market.


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