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ISLAM: Is ISLAM dangerous in enforcing terrorism?

Started by Rudolf Zlabinger, August 06, 2014, 10:31:39 PM

There are several comments made to newspaper PRESSE by me and one response by an nationalistic parties CEO, of which I think, that they are also of international interest and also for DHS. Unfortunately the originals are in German, and there are no translations yet to English.



Wednesday, August 6, 2014 



   
WG: FPÖ, Europa soll sich endlich verteidigen! 





Ein guter Rat, der mit Rechtspopulismus schon lange nichts mehr zu tun hat





Von: Heinz Christian Strache [mailto:hc.strache@fpoe.at]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2014 11:41
An: rudolf.zlabinger@chello.at
Betreff: FPÖ



Sehr geehrter Herr Zlabinger,



herzlichen Dank für Ihr Schreiben an HC Strache und den mitgeschickten Verweis aus der Presse.



Europa wäre gut beraten, die islamistische Bedrohung endlich ernst zu nehmen. Die Duldsamkeit und Kampfuntüchtigkeit, weil Verteidigungsunwilligkeit Europas und seiner real existierenden Spaßgesellschaft, könnte unschön zum Tragen kommen, weitete sich ein derartiger Konflikt auf das buchstäblich „alte Europa“ aus. Die Geschichte zeigt, dass wer sich selbst aufgibt und Selbstschutz für unnotwendig hält irgendwann einen sehr hohen Preis bezahlt. Das sollten wir unseren Nachkommen nach Möglichkeit ersparen.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Ihr Büro HC Strache











Büro HC Strache

Daniel Könczöl, MA

Parlament

1017 Wien



http://tv.fpoe.at/

   







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Tuesday, August 5, 2014 



   
Will ISIS mehr als nur den nahen Osten? http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3849491/Irak_Wer-stoppt-das-neue-Kalifat



Der Islam zeigt sein wahres Gesicht (05.08.2014 10:10)



Der gemässigte Islam mit seinen Gläubigen, wie sie bei uns in Österreich mehrheitlich leben, wissen es nicht, oder wollen es nicht wahrhaben, und ich bin der letzte, der gegen einen aufrechten Glauben hetzt.:

Der Islam ist blutrünstig und machtbesessen und strebt, jetzt in der Gestalt der Isis, nach Weltherrschaft, ganz nach dem Motto des 3. Reiches: erst der Irak, dann die ganze Welt.

Das eröffnet der aufgeklärten Welt aber auch eine große Chance: bildet doch der Djihad - Terror zum ersten Mal eine greifbare Front. Ist die einmal besiegt, fällt auch der Weltterror islamischer Prägung mit seinen verborgenen Netzwerken in sich zusammen. Von dem einigenden Effekt, der alle anderen Konfilkte, wie Russland und die Ukraine sehr schnell vergessen läßt, ganz zu schweigen.

"Volker der modernen Welt vereinigt euch!" und besiegt den Weltterror islamischer Prägung in Gestalt der Isis und jagt sie dorthin, wo sie hingehören, nämlich zum Teufel, und das möglichst schnell und nachhaltig!

Siehe dazu auch meinen Beitrag an anderer Stelle:

Der Islam ist möglicherweise staatsgefährdend:

https://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3845317/index.do



Ich grüße damit die gesamte, mit klarer Vernunft ausgestattete Welt und fordere sie hiemit ohne diplomatische Kompromisse zum entschlossenen Kampf gegen ISIS und den Weltterror auf. Schlagt sie dort, wo sie sich zum erstenmal offen zeigen.

Einer, der entschlossen an den Sieg der klaren Vernunft glaubt,

Rudolf Zlabinger


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Tuesday, July 29, 2014 



   
Der Islam ist möglicherweise staatsgefährdend (28.07.2014 10:15) 





Mein  Kommentar zum PRESSE Artikel



Außenpolitik

Israel will kämpfen "bis wir alle Tunnel zerstört haben" http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3845317/Israel-will-kaempfen-bis-wir-alle-Tunnel-zerstort-haben





Der Islam ist möglicherweise staatsgefährdend (28.07.2014 10:15)



Am Beispiel der Hamas, die ihren Terror scheinheilig mit ihrem Glauben rechtfertigt und das auch noch unter Berufung auf eine gewaltgeneigte Auslegung des Koran, liegt der Schluss nahe, dass der Islam als Religion als solche ein nicht unbeträchtliches Risiko darstellt.

Der Islam bereitet ungewollt auch in unserem Land den Boden für möglicherweise staatsgefährdende Bewegungen, selbst wenn die Moslems in Österreich sicherlich zum größten Teil sich dagegen verwehren.

Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob Österreichs islamische Gemeinde ein Garant für dauerhaften Schutz gegen fanatische Bestrebungen sein wird, wenn sich das Interesse terroristischer Islambrigaden auf unser Land richten sollte, und über die bestehenden Kultur ihrer friedlichen Glaubensbrüder in Österreich gewaltsam ihre gottesstaatlichen Ziele verfolgen möchte. In Gaza konnten die friedlichen Moslems sich nicht dagegen durchsetzen. Und im "Kalifat" Iraks offenbar auch nicht.

Der zugegeben relative geringe Anteil von Moslems in unserem Land sollte nicht darüber hinwegtäuschen, für einen Brückenkopf genügt schon eine Kommando. .

Angesichts dieser sich ausbreitenden Terrorherrschaften.sollte das Innenministerium ein mehr als achtsames Auge auf den österreichischen Islam richten. Es ware keine religiöse Diskriminierung, die Aktivitäten unserer Moslems aufmerksam zu überwachen.

Ich bedauere meine Ansicht, weil eine ganze Religion und ihre aufrechten Glaubensbrüder durch die Djihadisten in Verruf geraten.

Kelt

This is the kind of shite that makes me want to convert to Islam.

I think this post might be testing the limits of acceptable material on this forum.


Kelt

Quote from: Foodlion on August 06, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
Translation to English please? :o

Muslims are bad, mmmkay?

If you use the Chrome browser you can click 'Translate' at the top of the page.

Translation:

There are several comments made ​​to newspaper PRESS by me and one response by nationalistic parties to CEO, End of month I think, so thatthey are of international interest and thus for DHS. Unfortunately the originals are in German, and there are no translations yet to English. Wednesday, August 6, 2014  WG: FPÖ, Europe should defend itself at last! A good advice who has long had nothing to do with right-wing populism By: Heinz Christian Strache [mailto: hc.strache@fpoe.at] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 11:41 To: rudolf.zlabinger@chello.at Subject: Freedom Party Dear Mr. Zlabinger, thank you very much for your letter to HC Strache and the sent with reference from the press. would be well advised to finally take the Islamist threat seriously. The tolerance and Kampfuntüchtigkeit because Verteidigungsunwilligkeit Europe and its actually existing society could enjoy, ugly come to fruition, a conflict such as the "old Europe" literally expanded. History shows that those who give up themselves and self-protection for unnecessary stops eventually paid a very high price.

We should save our descendants, if possible. Sincerely your office HC Strache office HC Strache Daniel Könczöl, MA Parliament 1017 Vienna http://tv.fpoe.at/  Posted by Rudolf Zlabinger at 12:30 No comments: Links to this post        Email This BlogThis! Share to Twitter Share to Facebook Share to Pinterest  Tuesday, August 5, 2014   Will ISIS more than just the Middle East? http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3849491/Irak_Wer-stop-the -new-Caliphate Islam shows his true colors (08.05.2014 10:10)  The moderate Islam and its believers, as they mostly live with us in Austria, do not know, or do not want to admit it, and I am the last, rushing against an upright faith .:

Islam is bloodthirsty and greedy for power and aim, now in the form of Isis, after world domination, according to the motto of the 3rd Reich. until Iraq, then the whole world This opens the enlightened world but also a great opportunity: it is the Jihad - Terror for the first time a tangible front. Is the defeated once, even in the world of Islamic terror embossing collapses with its hidden networks. Of the unifying effect that can quickly forget all other Konfilkte, such as Russia and the Ukraine, to say nothing. "peoples of the modern world, unite!" and defeated the world terrorist Islamic coinage in the form of Isis and chases them to where they belong, namely the devil, and as quickly as possible and sustainable! See also my post elsewhere: Islam is potentially subversive: https: // DiePresse com / home / policy / Foreign Policy / 3845317 / index.do I greet so that the entire, equipped with a clear world of reason and urge them herewith without diplomatic compromises for resolute struggle against ISIS and the world on terror. Beat them wherever they show themselves openly for the first time. Someone who believes decided the victory of clear reason, Rudolf Zlabinger  Posted by Rudolf Zlabinger at 14:16 No comments: Links to this post        Email This BlogThis! Share to Twitter Share to Facebook Share to Pinterest  Tuesday, July 29, 2014  Islam is potentially subversive (07.28.2014 10:15)

  My comment to the article PRESS foreign policy Israel wants to fight "until we destroy all tunnels Islam is potentially subversive (07.28.2014 10:15) Using the example of Hamas, which hypocritically justify their terror with their faith, as well, citing a violent inclined interpretation of the Koran, the conclusion suggests that Islam as a religion as such represents a non-negligible risk. Islam prepares unintentionally in our country the ground for potentially seditious movements, even if the Muslims in Austria certainly deny largely against it. I'm not sure whether Austria's Islamic community a guarantee of lasting protection will be against fanatical efforts, when the interest of terrorist Islam Brigades should focus on our country, and want to forcibly pursue over the existing culture of their peaceful fellow believers in Austria their theocratic goals.

In Gaza, the peaceful Muslims could not prevail against it. And the "Khilafah "Iraq apparently not. added The relative low percentage of Muslims in our country should not hide the fact for a beachhead enough to provide a command. . Given these propagating Terrorherrschaften.sollte the Home Office set up more than eight close eye on the Austrian Islam. It would be no religious discrimination, to monitor the activities of our Muslims attentive. I regret my view, because an entire religion and its upright brethren discredited by the jihadists.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Foodlion on August 06, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
Translation to English please? :o

    Something about selling apples at a discount, and needing a person to deliver it to the magic forest.

    I think. My Estonian is rusty.

Quote from: Kelt on August 06, 2014, 11:17:59 PM
Muslims are bad, mmmkay?


Thank you for tip and translation.

The Islam is not bad in general, I know Moslems from my visits in Turkia, they are really sympathic, friendly people at all, especially in the country areas. But the danger is, that they could be used by established terroristic organizations like ISIS by ordering them by fatwas to help to invade the countries where they live now.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Rudolf Zlabinger on August 07, 2014, 12:20:24 AM
Thank you for tip and translation.

The Islam is not bad in general, I know Moslems from my visits in Turkia, they are really sympathic, friendly people at all, especially in the country areas. But the danger is, that they could be used by established terroristic organizations like ISIS by ordering them by fatwas to help to invade the countries where they live now.


Odd how you title your post as a question though, is there a right or wrong answer?

I am allowed to reformat a bit the translation of Kelt, he friendly performed.





There are several comments made ​​to newspaper PRESS by me and one response by nationalistic parties to CEO, End of month I think, so that they are of international interest and thus for DHS. Unfortunately the originals are in German, and there are no translations yet to English.

Wednesday, August 6, 2014  WG: FPÖ, Europe should defend itself at last!

Europe should defend itself at last!

A good advice who has long had nothing to do with right-wing populism

By: Heinz Christian Strache [mailto: hc.strache@fpoe.at] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 11:41 To: rudolf.zlabinger@chello.at Subject: Freedom Party

Dear Mr. Zlabinger,

thank you very much for your letter to HC Strache and the sent with reference from the press.

The world would be well advised to finally take the Islamist threat seriously. The tolerance and disability to fight because not willing to defend Europe and its actually existing society, ugly could come to fruition, a conflict such as the "old Europe" literally expanded. History shows that those who give up themselves and self-protection for unnecessary stops eventually paid a very high price.

We should save our descendants, if possible.

Sincerely your office HC Strache office HC Strache
Daniel Könczöl, MA Parliament 1017 Vienna http://tv.fpoe.at/ 

Posted by Rudolf Zlabinger at 12:30 No comments: Links to this post        Email This BlogThis! Share to Twitter Share to Facebook Share to Pinterest 

Tuesday, August 5, 2014    http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3849491/Irak_Wer-stoppt-das-neue-Kalifat

Islam shows his true colors (08.05.2014 10:10)

Will ISIS more than just the Middle East? 



The moderate Islam and its believers, as they mostly live with us in Austria, do not know, or do not want to admit it, and I am the last, rushing against an upright faith .:

Islam is bloodthirsty and greedy for power and aim, now in the form of Isis, after world domination, according to the motto of Hitler. until Iraq, then the whole world

This opens the enlightened world but also a great opportunity: it is the Jihad - Terror for the first time a tangible front. Is the defeated once, even in the world of Islamic terror embossing collapses with its hidden networks. Of the unifying effect that can quickly forget all other troubles, such as Russia and the Ukraine, to say nothing.

"Peoples of the modern world, unite!" and defeat the world terrorist Islamic coinage in the form of Isis and chases them to where they belong, namely to the devil, and as quickly as possible and sustainable!

See also my post elsewhere: Islam is potentially subversive: http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3845317/Israel-will-kaempfen-bis-wir-alle-Tunnel-zerstort-haben

I greet so that the entire world, equipped with a clear world of reason and urge them herewith without diplomatic compromises for resolute struggle against ISIS and the world on terror. Beat them wherever they show themselves openly for the first time.

Someone who believes decided the victory of clear reason, Rudolf Zlabinger 

Posted by Rudolf Zlabinger at 14:16 No comments: Links to this post        Email This BlogThis! Share to Twitter Share to Facebook Share to Pinterest  Tuesday,


July 29, 2014 Islam is potentially subversive (07.28.2014 10:15)

My comment to the article PRESS foreign policy

Israel wants to fight "until we destroy all tunnels
http://diepresse.com/home/politik/aussenpolitik/3845317/Israel-will-kaempfen-bis-wir-alle-Tunnel-zerstort-haben



Islam is potentially subversive (07.28.2014 10:15)

Using the example of Hamas, which hypocritically justify their terror with their faith, as well, citing a violent inclined interpretation of the Koran, the conclusion suggests that Islam as a religion as such represents a non-negligible risk. Islam prepares unintentionally in our country the ground for potentially seditious movements, even if the Muslims in Austria certainly deny largely against it.

I'm not sure whether Austria's Islamic community a guarantee of lasting protection will be against fanatical efforts, when the interest of terrorist Islam Brigades should focus on our country, and want to forcibly pursue over the existing culture of their peaceful fellow believers in Austria their theocratic goals.

In Gaza, the peaceful Muslims could not prevail against it. And the "Khilafah "Iraq apparently not, added. The relative low percentage of Muslims in our country should not hide the fact for a beachhead enough to provide a command. Given these propagating terror brigades the Home Office should set up more than eight close eye on the Austrian Islam. It would be no religious discrimination, to monitor the activities of our Muslims attentive.

I regret my view, because an entire religion and its upright brethren discredited by the jihadists.

Stellar

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on August 06, 2014, 11:18:39 PM
    Something about selling apples at a discount, and needing a person to deliver it to the magic forest.

    I think. My Estonian is rusty.

Eddie why don't you try and make sense!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Stellar on August 07, 2014, 02:52:21 AM
Eddie why don't you try and make sense!


Oh if Eddie indulged in the most potent of hypnotics ever made he'd still make infinitely more sense then you ever have.


Which begs the question: Whom do the Europeans dislike more; Muslims, Jews or blacks?

I`d say it`s a dead heat.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 07, 2014, 06:27:19 AM
Which begs the question: Whom do the Europeans dislike more; Muslims, Jews or blacks?

I`d say it`s a dead heat.

Is this your general wide sweeping generalisation or just your usual bullshit generalisation?

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Stellar on August 07, 2014, 02:52:21 AM
Eddie why don't you try and make sense!

       A pigeon never flies towards the zephyr on Ash Wednesday in early March. Unless Meatloaf has a letter of marque from Buck Rogers, the space traveller, and Buck Rodgers, the former Expos manager.

    VRX9-OWX^C!

         

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 07, 2014, 06:27:19 AM
Which begs the question: Whom do the Europeans dislike more; Muslims, Jews or blacks?

I`d say it`s a dead heat.

If you read attentive again, you will see that this dead hat is horribly alive and threatens all countries, where also honest Islam exists, far away what people we like or not, and far away from Hitlers ideas, that's a question for brainless idiots, and we are surely not.

If you understand only simple things, this topic is not simple enough for you, as you will not understand and you should stay quiet. For the case, you only wanted to answer quickly, answer again more slowly after reading and understanding that problem.

If you had in mind our nationalistic long, long past times, then for my relationship to the history of third empire please read that and forget your prejudices:

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« on: July 24, 2014, 04:44:10 AM »


Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on July 23, 2014, 11:35:13 PM

Sorry.  We've all been a little jumpy since that Hitler thing happened.




QuoteAlthough I deeply regret the history of Austria between 1938 and 1945, and already before: At the end I was 2 years old, and because of the resistance of my parents against Hitler as they was royalists and catholics it was quite uncertain that I stay alive. It will never be forgot.

Thank you for recognizing me as a member, warm regards, Rudolf

So, and now lets stay friends,

sincerely, Rudolf Zlabinger

I'm sorry.  You may well have valid points but I do see shades of Meim Kampf even if that makes me simple.  Especially when talking about nationalistic and 'freedom' parties and in the wake of the Norway mass killings due to similar 'national security' concerns.   I'm sure you believe your views are altruistic and a measured discussion might be okay, but posting what seems to amount to a bulletin of your movement's agenda on an unrelated forum just seems a little inappropriate to me.


I'm not trying to scare you away from this forum.  I liked your observations on discrete cosmology.  This just happened to hit my sensitivities and I had to say my peace.

Dear Georgie,

thank you for your moderate reply, you are quite right to amend the some inappropriate publication environment.

But the shortly timed establishment of a Kalif in Syria frightened me, because he is now able himself alone to send fatwas to every Moslem and their communities of whatever content, and its only the personal courage of a man or a community to resist an order of this kind, if the content is for example a murder.


So excuse me to have misused this platform to send a warning also to overseas. I stop now to continue, as the purpose is done.

I am glad about your interest in my cosmology topic.

Yours sincerely, Rudolf Zlabinger   

Kelt

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 07, 2014, 06:27:19 AM
Which begs the question: Whom do the Europeans dislike more; Muslims, Jews or blacks?

I`d say it`s a dead heat.

It's hard to say.  Any kind of criticism of Iraeli policy seems to be claimed as "Anti-semitism" these days, it's hard to gauge actual anti-semitism and real anti-semitism when certain sections of the media is crying wolf all the time.

Muslims, certainly a lot of anti-Muslim hate, though it's way less than in these here United States.

Blacks, not that much actually.. again, much less than the USA from my experience. There's better integration of blacks into the community in Europe, whereas in the US blacks have largely been ghettoised.

The most racist country that I've encountered first hand was probably Russia, though.

Then the US, where apartheid was insitutionalised until the 60s, of course, and you still have the Southern States who would dearly love to have their slaves back. So.. y'know.. yeeeehaw.

Then possibly Poland.   Poles are a pretty insular bunch from my experience. Don't like non-Poles.  Not so much.


Quote from: Rudolf Zlabinger on August 07, 2014, 08:22:20 AM
If you read attentive again, you will see that this dead hat is horribly alive and threatens all countries, where also honest Islam exists, far away what people we like or not, and far away from Hitlers ideas, that's a question for brainless idiots, and we are surely not.

If you understand only simple things, this topic is not simple enough for you, as you will not understand and you should stay quiet. For the case, you only wanted to answer quickly, answer again more slowly after reading and understanding that problem.

If you had in mind our nationalistic long, long past times, then for my relationship to the history of third empire please read that and forget your prejudices:

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General Discussion / Re: The BellGab "New Member" Meet and Greet! Your reply`s ambiguity
« on: July 24, 2014, 04:44:10 AM »


Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on July 23, 2014, 11:35:13 PM

Sorry.  We've all been a little jumpy since that Hitler thing happened.




So, and now lets stay friends,

sincerely, Rudolf Zlabinger
Welcome back Gabor!

http://youtu.be/5VlGyMG0ksg

Dear RealCool,

the meaning of your post may internal, so not directly addressed to me, but whatever, I love this song, thank you.

y.s. Rudolf

Quote from: Kelt on August 07, 2014, 06:36:45 PM

Muslims, certainly a lot of anti-Muslim hate, though it's way less than in these here United States.


Dear Kelt,

thank you for addressing again this annoying issue, to give me the opportunity to tell some clear words. My message contains nothing less than hating Muslims and is no way a manifest against Islam.

Racism and religious animosities, when they are active, throttle down all kinds of factually correct discussions,  just when they are urgently necessary. I read a message of Mr. President Obama from 2010, where Islam is set free from terrorism in a Home Security paper, and I not only therefore found it a very good idea.

The kernel of my topic there is a serious warning about a recently upcoming threat originating from a terroristic community, ISIS (HAMAS is not better at all), who misuse the Islamic religion and the name of Allah to follow their world threatening targets.

The last, most dangerous action of ISIS is the establishment of a Kalif, who alone (Bin Laden had not) has in Islam the potential to tyrannically control the whole world in a theocratic manner. His most mighty weapons are fatwas, he self alone can send without outer control to every Moslem in the world. These fatwas are religious implemented orders, every Moslem receiving has to follow threatened by serious religious consequences. In the violent interpretation of Koran of ISIS a murder of a non Islam is no crime for example and there are a lot of crimes in civil sense he can demand this way.

Theoretically only the personal courage of the receiver of a criminal fatwa to resist the order given by protects you from being murdered or otherwise seriously damaged by a Moslem directed by a fatwa. Multiply this threat by the number of Moslems, say, in the USA, enough to estimate the number of fanatic ones among them. This way a Kalif of the ISIS origin can cause terroristic activities in the whole world as he likes.

I am ugly disgusted about the discrimination a single Kalif can thereby apply to our upright Islamic citizens, and besides my manifest to chase ISIS, I rather encourage government to set activities for protecting our Moslems against this ISIS Kalif until he is out of his present "religious" authority.

Now I have broken my promise given to Georgie (please forgive me once more) to not follow the topic furthermore, as he (and I agree) argues BellGab not to be the right environment for a political issue of this kind. But perhaps I could thereby cleanup some misunderstandings at the real end. 

y.s. Rudolf       


An Article in the Austrian newspaper PRESSE informed of Obamas order of air force attacks against ISIS. I acknowledged this message with joy and gratitude.

Quote from: Rudolf Zlabinger on August 07, 2014, 01:46:48 PM
Dear Georgie,

thank you for your moderate reply, you are quite right to amend the some inappropriate publication environment.

But the shortly timed establishment of a Kalif in Syria frightened me, because he is now able himself alone to send fatwas to every Moslem and their communities of whatever content, and its only the personal courage of a man or a community to resist an order of this kind, if the content is for example a murder.


So excuse me to have misused this platform to send a warning also to overseas. I stop now to continue, as the purpose is done.

I am glad about your interest in my cosmology topic.

Yours sincerely, Rudolf Zlabinger

Sorry, the truth is the translation wasn't very good so I made some assumptions and keyed in on some trigger words.  I apologize if I mischaracterized your post.  I thought I saw some things that frightened me as well.

Also I have no authority to moderate here and am not even a prominent member.  Please post as you see fit. 

WildCard

Quote from: Kelt on August 07, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
It's hard to say.  Any kind of criticism of Iraeli policy seems to be claimed as "Anti-semitism" these days, it's hard to gauge actual anti-semitism and real anti-semitism when certain sections of the media is crying wolf all the time.
Somebody on the radio was talking about how anti-semitism in today's France is a brand new animal.
Pretty good interview but she used the phrase, "the Israeli Gaza operation"
Is that what the kid's are callin it? An "operation"?

Quote from: Kelt on August 07, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Then the US, where apartheid was insitutionalised until the 60s, of course, and you still have the Southern States who would dearly love to have their slaves back. So.. y'know.. yeeeehaw.
Oh, we still got slaves. We call em Mexicans.

Speaking of wet-backs, I've heard the U.K.'s going through the same thing we are with Arabic immigrants.
Stupid brown people. They ruin everything. Takin our jobs n shit.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: WildCard on August 09, 2014, 07:52:25 AM
Somebody on the radio was talking about how anti-semitism in today's France is a brand new animal.
Pretty good interview but she used the phrase, "the Israeli Gaza operation"
Is that what the kid's are callin it? An "operation"?
Oh, we still got slaves. We call em Mexicans.

Speaking of wet-backs, I've heard the U.K.'s going through the same thing we are with Arabic immigrants.
Stupid brown people. They ruin everything. Takin our jobs n shit.


I have to slightly correct you; Certain (not all) areas of the UK import, Somalians, Pakistanis, Sri-Lankans, Indians, Poles, Romanians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Slovaks, Hungarians, Chinese and a few Malaysians. We export The offspring (usually male, around 19-30 years of age) of the Indian sub continent immigrants to (now) Iraq and Syria so they can die or get arrested if and when they come back to the UK. 

Kelt

Quote from: WildCard on August 09, 2014, 07:52:25 AM
Somebody on the radio was talking about how anti-semitism in today's France is a brand new animal.
Pretty good interview but she used the phrase, "the Israeli Gaza operation"
Is that what the kid's are callin it? An "operation"?
Oh, we still got slaves. We call em Mexicans.

Speaking of wet-backs, I've heard the U.K.'s going through the same thing we are with Arabic immigrants.
Stupid brown people. They ruin everything. Takin our jobs n shit.

The simple way around the dangers of having a fresh-off-the-boat immigrant taking your job and doing it twice as well at half the cost is to learn a skill.

Learn to code, or set up a network, or maybe just learn to write. Writing is the easiest thing in the world, since all you're doing is taking the language you've spoken since you were about 2 years old and slapping it down on a piece of paper.  Could there be an easier job? 

Britain has long had an immigrant population, though.  After the Empire collapsed, when German forces blew up the British Death Star... I'm a little hazy on the reasons... the British had an open doors policy for much of the Empire's subjects. As British controlled borders contracted, citizens of the Empire were invited to come to Britain and fill in the gaps left behind by hundreds of thousands of dead working-age Stormtroopers.

Now the interesting thing about that is that many of the Empire's subjects didn't have surnames.  They were called M'Bembe, and Koala, and Jabba, with no last name to their... uh.. name.  See how easy it is to write?  As a result, many of the immigrant families found themselves filling in registration forms that were invalid owing to the lack of a surname.  This is why you now have many black and beige Britons with colourful surnames like Sidney Jaffacake, or Toby Strawberry, or Eliza Piano. They just stuck down any old noun in the surname box in order to make themselves legal. 

If this were to happen today you would suddenly see Britain populated by people with traditional Arab names like Mustafa Dual Band Modem, or Hassan Google Glass, or Raffa 10" Galaxy Tablet.

I had a point, but it's gone now... something about Gypsies, wasn't it?


albrecht

Quote from: WildCard on August 09, 2014, 07:52:25 AM
Somebody on the radio was talking about how anti-semitism in today's France is a brand new animal.
Pretty good interview but she used the phrase, "the Israeli Gaza operation"
Is that what the kid's are callin it? An "operation"?
Oh, we still got slaves. We call em Mexicans.

Speaking of wet-backs, I've heard the U.K.'s going through the same thing we are with Arabic immigrants.
Stupid brown people. They ruin everything. Takin our jobs n shit.
I think it is the Poles etc that have Britain's working-class worried.

By the way, it is interesting how many prominent Germans (and one really bad Austrian) had some fascination with Islam through history. Far be it from me to disparage the German people but I think they liked the "fierceness" and singularity of the religion (at least in theory). Whereas even though Christianity was still the most popular and most of even these people would continue to profess being one I think they did not like the perceived weakness, the forgiveness, etc. Gottlob Frege, Hitler, Kurt Gödel, Nietzsche, etc all had positive comments on Islam (sorry to put Hitler in the mix with those geniuses) and Hitler used Islam in his war against the Jews etc prominently (letting the Grand Mufti Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini preach and influence Moslems, special SS divisions, etc.)

Kelt

Quote from: albrecht on August 09, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
I think it is the Poles etc that have Britain's working-class worried.

By the way, it is interesting how many prominent Germans (and one really bad Austrian) had some fascination with Islam through history. Far be it from me to disparage the German people but I think they liked the "fierceness" and singularity of the religion (at least in theory). Whereas even though Christianity was still the most popular and most of even these people would continue to profess being one I think they did not like the perceived weakness, the forgiveness, etc. Gottlob Frege, Hitler, Kurt Gödel, Nietzsche, etc all had positive comments on Islam (sorry to put Hitler in the mix with those geniuses) and Hitler used Islam in his war against the Jews etc prominently (letting the Grand Mufti Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini preach and influence Moslems, special SS divisions, etc.)

I think it's probably okay to put Hitler in the 'genius' category. The guy certainly had what would now be known as 1337 5k1llz. 

I think it's okay to discuss bad people in a neutral fashion, rather than denounce their entire body of work simply because they happened to be a wretched human being.


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