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Started by albrecht, June 21, 2014, 09:05:45 AM

theONE

Quote from: Value Of Pi on October 23, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
As it turns out, the Michelle speech joke was plagiarized from a published cartoon that read almost identically. So the joke about the stolen speech was itself stolen. Yes, Donald is a real winner.

,,by any chance do you have link to that cartoon ?

onan




theONE

Quote from: Value Of Pi on October 23, 2016, 04:20:53 PM
As it turns out, the Michelle speech joke was plagiarized from a published cartoon that read almost identically. So the joke about the stolen speech was itself stolen. Yes, Donald is a real winner.

Quote from: onan on October 23, 2016, 05:57:30 PM


isn't the date on the bottom of the cartoon [21.0ct.2016] is the time when this cartoon was created..or date when it was posted by that poster ?
3-rd debate was on [19.0ct.2016]

Gyoza Girl

Quote from: theONE on October 23, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
isn't the date on the bottom of the cartoon [21.0ct.2016] is the time when this cartoon was created..or date when it was posted by that poster ?
3-rd debate was on [19.0ct.2016]

Hi, I think it was an R.J. Matson cartoon originally posted on Roll Call on July 19. This link makes that a little clearer:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/capitol-ink-double-standard-2


JesusJuice

You need to have an actual direct link to Hillary. Not some low level flunky/patsy.

theONE

Quote from: Gyoza Girl on October 23, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Hi, I think it was an R.J. Matson cartoon originally posted on Roll Call on July 19. This link makes that a little clearer:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/capitol-ink-double-standard-2

Hi, Thank You
that makes it clear


To be fair, it's an obvious joke and what the media was obsessing on for like a week. I don't think it was plagiarism. And even if it was, it doesn't matter since Trump isn't a comedian. I don't think this a thing.

I'm more disturbed by how shitty some of his jokes were.

theONE

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 23, 2016, 11:50:44 PM
To be fair, it's an obvious joke and what the media was obsessing on for like a week. I don't think it was plagiarism. And even if it was, it doesn't matter since Trump isn't a comedian. I don't think this a thing.

I'm more disturbed by how shitty some of his jokes were.

..?..and the "joke" that he told at his dinner speech how Clintons Foundation took money that were given to help villages in Haiti, was shitty as well ?
or was it spot on?

/just asking for a friend/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 23, 2016, 11:37:39 AM
Trump desperately needs to hire about six writers and a brilliant media producer. This guy consistently shows how minor league he is by not preparing. He thinks he's smarter than the people who specialize in this element and it makes him look retarded. What's annoying is he's the best on the planet when he's being produced. For instance he eviscerated Hillary in the second debate when he had world class people like Farage and Guilliani producing him for that event. But for some reason, he seems to be crashing this plane alone since then. It's highly illogical and strange.

Those jokes you posted from him were pathetic.

I'm not going argue with you on this one.

Yeah, I said this weeks ago after the first debate but perhaps it's hard to find people like this that haven't bought into the corruption. I suppose that could be his worry but he really does need at least one really good speech writer. His years of business shmoozing has given him a funny style for sure though. Even when he's being critical of Hillary he sometimes sounds like he's complementing her. For example, it made me laugh when in the second debate he said that Hillary "has tremendous hate in her heart." When it comes to hating no one beats Hillary Clinton, people. She's really just the best in that field. Simply, a fantastic hater.  :D

Quote from: theONE on October 23, 2016, 11:57:59 PM
..?..and the "joke" that he told at his dinner speech how Clintons Foundation took money that were given to help villages in Haiti, was shitty as well ?
or was it spot on?

/just asking for a friend/

I don't know, I haven't watched it because the whole thing sounds as cringey as it gets. There is nothing worse than non-comedians trying to do comedy. I've only read a transcript of some of the jokes.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 24, 2016, 12:27:47 AM
Yeah, I said this weeks ago after the first debate but perhaps it's hard to find people like this that haven't bought into the corruption. I suppose that could be his worry but he really does need at least one really good speech writer. His years of business shmoozing has given him a funny style for sure though. Even when he's being critical of Hillary he sometimes sounds like he's complementing her. For example, it made me laugh when in the second debate he said that Hillary "has tremendous hate in her heart." When it comes to hating no one beats Hillary Clinton, people. She's really just the best in that field. Simply, a fantastic hater.  :D

He's made some really odd decisions when it comes to this stuff. For instance when Melina made that speech that she supposedly plagiarized. The speech was traced back to being written by some low level hacks in his campaign. It seems to me with Trump's gift of surrounding himself with brilliant people, for him to be making these types of mistakes is so out of character for him. I don't doubt some of the biggest names would turn him down due to liberal pressure and fear. But the guy has been one of the best at using and manipulating media for decades. I don't believe there isn't a plethora of world class people on his speed dial.

136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 24, 2016, 01:20:12 AM
I don't know, I haven't watched it because the whole thing sounds as cringey as it gets. There is nothing worse than non-comedians trying to do comedy. I've only read a transcript of some of the jokes.

He's made some really odd decisions when it comes to this stuff. For instance when Melina made that speech that she supposedly plagiarized. The speech was traced back to being written by some low level hacks in his campaign. It seems to me with Trump's gift of surrounding himself with brilliant people, for him to be making these types of mistakes is so out of character for him. I don't doubt some of the biggest names would turn him down due to liberal pressure and fear. But the guy has been one of the best at using and manipulating media for decades. I don't believe there isn't a plethora of world class people on his speed dial.

The Washington based political media is pretty lame, but at least they do basic things like fact checking and comparing past statements with current statements.  Prior to this campaign, The Trump thing was covered by the entertainment press and the business press.  Though there are a few exceptions especially a handful in the business press, most in those presses are sycophantic in their coverage.  The Trump Thing was nothing special at using or manipulating these media, being used and manipulated was how most of those journalists saw their role.

(TMZ came along after The Trump Thing's peak of coverage in the entertainment press.)

theONE

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 24, 2016, 01:20:12 AM
I don't know, I haven't watched it because the whole thing sounds as cringey as it gets. There is nothing worse than non-comedians trying to do comedy. I've only read a transcript of some of the jokes.

He's made some really odd decisions when it comes to this stuff. For instance when Melina made that speech that she supposedly plagiarized. The speech was traced back to being written by some low level hacks in his campaign. It seems to me with Trump's gift of surrounding himself with brilliant people, for him to be making these types of mistakes is so out of character for him. I don't doubt some of the biggest names would turn him down due to liberal pressure and fear. But the guy has been one of the best at using and manipulating media for decades. I don't believe there isn't a plethora of world class people on his speed dial.

VoteQuimby - with all the respect but since you haven't watch that video you have no moral right to comment on it based on what you read from others.
I also was against watching it ,but after an hour from learning about existence of that video I decided to watch it to be familiar whit it,
since written comments were quite suggestive of a incredible event that happened after 3-rd Presidential debate,
next day they were sitting next to each other with only bishop between them.

There is so many telling moments there & much humor spiked with sharp pricks of incredible bravery to use words that floor you
considering that they are attending very prestigious event.

I highly recommend you watch that, it's only 42 minutes long and lot's of laughters -at one time Trump acted like a real gentlemen
and made sure that when Hillry was sitting down her chair is not too far away from her so she will not fell down [at: 36:34],
here to make it easier for you is the link ;) 

"Watch Trump and Clinton Roast Each Other at Alfred Smith Dinner"
A day after Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton clashed at the final presidential debate, the two candidates
will take the stage at the Alfred E. Smith charity dinner at Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan. Watch the event right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT26_9Q3fgg

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136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 24, 2016, 01:20:12 AM
I don't know, I haven't watched it because the whole thing sounds as cringey as it gets. There is nothing worse than non-comedians trying to do comedy. I've only read a transcript of some of the jokes.

He's made some really odd decisions when it comes to this stuff. For instance when Melina made that speech that she supposedly plagiarized. The speech was traced back to being written by some low level hacks in his campaign. It seems to me with Trump's gift of surrounding himself with brilliant people, for him to be making these types of mistakes is so out of character for him. I don't doubt some of the biggest names would turn him down due to liberal pressure and fear. But the guy has been one of the best at using and manipulating media for decades. I don't believe there isn't a plethora of world class people on his speed dial.

Trump may have a gift for surrounding himself with brilliant people in business, though, given the number of failed business ventures he's had, I think even that's debatable, but I think it's pretty clear he's surrounded himself with hopeless people in this election.  For instance, he's on his third (official) campaign manager since the end of the primaries.

Since you used one case at his convention to provide an example, I can give three more to show how his total convention was a disaster.    Though I suppose it could be argued that the convention was more of Trump's seeming strategy of taking every position on virtually every issue, I think it's far more likely that his convention was a case of every speaker freelancing (or every man for himself.)

1.Ivanka Trump's main moment in her speech was her mentioning that her dad had promised paid family and medical leave.  As was pointed out at the time, this was not in Trump's policy proposals and The Donald himself had never mentioned any such thing.  He has since committed to it, to the degree that anything he says should be believed.  I think what happened in this case was Ivanka employing a strategy that the British Program 'Yes, Minister' explained called 'putting it in the program.'  This is a strategy when a person is being undermined by their underlings of simply announcing it publicly and thereby making it a fait accompli.  Never-the-less, if that was the case, the only person Ivanka would have had to have done an end run around was her father.  So, this was still a case of her freelancing, and not sticking to some script or solely promoting her father.

2.Peter Thiel.  He gave a decent, emotional speech, but I don't believe he mentioned Donald Trump's name even once.  Like Ivanka Trump, I think Thiel was promoting his own agenda, and not Trump's.  (Whatever Trump's agenda is.)

3.Lieutenant General Flynn.  His insane speech clearly was far closer to promoting the foreign policy/military positions of Governor Pence and not any positions of Donald Trump's.

In contrast, every speaker at the Democratic convention, while I assume mostly allowed to write their own speech, was clearly given marching orders to promote Hillary Clinton's policy positions or to promote Hillary Clinton herself.  That's what these conventions are supposed to do.

In the end, Trump himself groused about his own convention saying "I had nothing to do with it, I just showed up at it to give my speech."

Dr. MD MD

I've never seen this guy's show before. I've always heard he was a kook from the rest of the media but I guess this is why. Everyone should watch this before the election. He's almost at the last stage of collapsing our country in preparation for the one world government.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATgLwSCrjUk

theONE

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 24, 2016, 02:29:25 AM
I've never seen this guy's show before. I've always heard he was a kook from the rest of the media but I guess this is why. Everyone should watch this before the election. He's almost at the last stage of collapsing our country in preparation for the one world government.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATgLwSCrjUk

I started watching this video few days ago, and watching it now, -considering his such powerful influence in the Worlds politics
and economy I wonder if he will be /or is/ one of those bad dudes character mentioned in the Bible describing emerging individuals
helping to set up the Antichrist ??

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: theONE on October 24, 2016, 02:47:30 AM
I started watching this video few days ago, and watching it now, -considering his such powerful influence in the Worlds politics
and economy I wonder if he will be /or is/ one of those bad dudes character mentioned in the Bible describing emerging individuals
helping to set up the Antichrist ??

I'm not religious and so I'm loathe to go there but yeah, it does sound kind of like revelations.

Juan

Now we learn from The Wall Street Journal that Clinton best friend and Virginia governor Terry McAuliff gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to a woman running for office.  Said woman was married to the FBI deputy director in charge of investigating the Clinton server. 
Classic appearance of impropriety.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Juan on October 24, 2016, 05:51:41 AM
Now we learn from The Wall Street Journal that Clinton best friend and Virginia governor Terry McAuliff gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to a woman running for office.  Said woman was married to the FBI deputy director in charge of investigating the Clinton server. 
Classic appearance of impropriety.

but you're a racist for noticing this or, even worse, pointing it out.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 24, 2016, 03:01:52 AM
I'm not religious and so I'm loathe to go there but yeah, it does sound kind of like revelations.


Yeah, it's hard for this lapsed Episcopalian, who has been resisting acknowledging the apparent accuracy of biblical prophesy for years, to admit to having serious second thoughts.  The thing is, you don't have to work real hard to see it.

weedeater

definition of the word soros in greek.  Also backward and forward the same word.  Sorrow.  Definition of soros - an urn or receptacle for keeping the bones of the dead; the funeral couch or bier, an open coffin on which the Jews carried their dead forth to burial.

136 or 142

Quote from: Juan on October 24, 2016, 05:51:41 AM
Now we learn from The Wall Street Journal that Clinton best friend and Virginia governor Terry McAuliff gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to a woman running for office.  Said woman was married to the FBI deputy director in charge of investigating the Clinton server. 
Classic appearance of impropriety.

I see Falsify the Record Hired You.

Said woman ran for office several years before the FBI Deputy Director was ever put in charge of investigating the Clinton server and she lost the race.  The Democrats donated to her campaign because she was running for an open Republican seat in the Virginia State Senate and that state senate was 20-19 Republican.  Since the Democrats controlled the Lieutenant Governor position, had she won it would have flipped the state senate to Democratic control.

You're are one of the worst pieces of shit on the site, lying asshole and pretend lawyer.

I shouldn't get worked up about you though.  Anybody who believes a word from the political section of the Wall Street Journal exposes themselves as a complete moron.

136 or 142

Quote from: theONE on October 24, 2016, 02:47:30 AM
I started watching this video few days ago, and watching it now, -considering his such powerful influence in the Worlds politics
and economy I wonder if he will be /or is/ one of those bad dudes character mentioned in the Bible describing emerging individuals
helping to set up the Antichrist ??

Paul Singer, one of the top donors to the Republican Party, is much worse than George Soros.  However, Fox 'News' never told you to hate Paul Singer, so you don't mindlessly regurgitate his name.

GravitySucks

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 24, 2016, 07:54:35 AM
I see Falsify the Record Hired You.

Said woman ran for office several years before the FBI Deputy Director was ever put in charge of investigating the Clinton server.  There is no evidence whatsoever that the said man being appointed to the position had anything to do with the donation.

You're are one of the worst pieces of shit on the site, lying asshole and pretend lawyer.

I shouldn't get worked up about you though.  Anybody who believes a word from the political section of the Wall Street Journal exposes themselves as a complete moron.

Mainlining PepsiMax again?  Dude chill the fuck out or go piss up a rope (preferrably while you are hanging from it).

136 or 142

Quote from: GravitySucks on October 24, 2016, 08:03:48 AM
Mainlining PepsiMax again?  Dude chill the fuck out or go piss up a rope (preferrably while you are hanging from it).

You first. You have no reason to live as, among many other things, you personally suck.

GravitySucks

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 24, 2016, 08:14:06 AM
You first. You have no reason to live as, among many other things, you personally suck.

No Stanley Cup for you for one year.

136 or 142

Quote from: GravitySucks on October 24, 2016, 08:18:32 AM
No Stanley Cup for you for one year.

Q: What happened to the hockey player who said to the other hockey player "$50 for a quickie."

A: He got two minutes for hooking.

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