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Started by albrecht, June 21, 2014, 09:05:45 AM

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 16, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
Considering how the FBI pussied out, why do you think anyone is going to do anything?

It's just history. For some reason the Republican Party is really gung ho and ready to take on the Clintons ... when they're in power. Not during elections for whatever reason, but when they're in power it's just a constant flow of special prosecutors and whatnot. I expect that to happen again, though it's always possible that we're just too corrupt now to allow it and she'll be made out to be Saint Hillary by the complicit media.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 17, 2016, 09:12:14 AM
It's just history. For some reason the Republican Party is really gung ho and ready to take on the Clintons ... when they're in power. Not during elections for whatever reason, but when they're in power it's just a constant flow of special prosecutors and whatnot. I expect that to happen again, though it's always possible that we're just too corrupt now to allow it and she'll be made out to be Saint Hillary by the complicit media.

I don't know man, you're talking about stuff from 15-20 years ago. I watch what complete failures the Establishment Republicans are and I read about the tentacles the Clinton Foundation has running throughout the entire webwork of the American system. I just don't see anything in the Republicans beyond them being the Washington Generals to the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters.

Just look at what a bitch of a man Paul Ryan is. You think this guy is going to do anything but bow to the biggest political syndicate in American history?

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 17, 2016, 09:16:52 AM
I don't know man, you're talking about stuff from 15-20 years ago. I watch what complete failures the Establishment Republicans are and I read about the tentacles the Clinton Foundation has running throughout the entire webwork of the American system. I just don't see anything in the Republicans beyond them being the Washington Generals to the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters.

Just look at what a bitch of a man Paul Ryan is. You think this guy is going to do anything but bow to the biggest political syndicate in American history?

You may be right. Ryan certainly seems to lack a set. We'll just have to see.

Here's the big video James O'Keefe has been promising for the last few weeks.

https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY

bateman

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/17/exclusive-okeefe-video-sting-exposes-bird-dogging-democrats-effort-to-incite-violence-at-trump-rallies/

QuoteFOVAL: We train up our people, wherever they are, to â€" and I work with a network of groups, we train them up on how to get themselves into a situation on tape, on camera, that we can use later.

PV: So some of this, so I probably know your work.

FOVAL: I know you do. Everybody does. But â€"

PV: You mean like a situation where it’s sort of like a â€"

FOVAL: You remember the Iowa State Fair thing where Scott Walker grabbed the sign out of the dude’s hand and then the dude gets kind of roughed up right in front of the stage right there on camera?

PV: Yeah.

FOVAL: That was all us. The guy that got roughed up is my counterpart, who works for Bob [Creamer].

QuoteIn another video, Foval admits that his organization is responsible for an incident in Asheville, North Carolina in September, where an elderly woman was allegedly assaulted outside a Trump rally.

In that incident, the 69-year-old woman, wearing an oxygen tank, heckled a visually impaired 73-year-old Trump supporter, then pursued him. She claimed he then punched her in the jaw, though she had no visible injury; his attorney claims she touched him on the shoulder first, and then fell to the ground as he turned around. The national media covered her claims widely, while largely ignoring his. Foval explains that the woman had been “trained” as a part of his operation.

Foval also explains how the operation is set up to allow the DNC and the Clinton campaign “plausible deniability” in the event that the true nature of the deliberate violence is discovered: “The thing that we have to watch is making sure there’s a double-blind between the actual campaign and the actual DNC and what we’re doing. There’s a double-blind there, so that they can plausibly deny that they heard anything about it.”


Meh... didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know. I know the Democrats are crooked and I know they're rigging elections and manipulating the media and their marks. I also know they're intentionally inciting violence.

I don't think this video is going to be a factor. I also think it's too long and poorly edited to become viral.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 17, 2016, 09:25:40 AM
You may be right. Ryan certainly seems to lack a set. We'll just have to see.


I think it will be taken out of the hands of politician's.  Much more has been revealed about the crimes and misdemeanor's of the Clinton Machine and the extent of the corruption that riddles our government than ever before.  I sense a pervasive outrage among the populace to include disaffected Dems that will extend way beyond the election season.  I think you will see a rise in the number of concerned citizens groups that will be unprecedented and a redoubling of the efforts of government watch dog groups like Judicial Watch.  This will result in a demonstration of the will of the people that won't be denied.  In addition, the MSM which has been revealed to be in the bag for the left and monied elites, will be forced to show greater equanimity or risk becoming more irrelevant than it already is.

I was in D.C. In the weeks leading up to the reelection of Nixon.  I recall that there was a sketchy report of the Watergate break-in on local radio and TV and there may have been some very brief and vague account of it in the national news media but it was generally treated as a nonevent and what coverage there was was drowned out by election hubbub.  In the months following the election I  witnessed a slow but steady increase in interest among citizens that was picked up on and exploited by Woodward and Bernstein.  I believe in relative terms the recently revealed crimes and misdemeanors involving government officials as well as private citizens and NGO's that Watergate amounts to little more than a parking violation

I realize that American Journalism has undergone a major decline in its effectiveness in keeping the American people informed and serving as a balance to the heavy hand of government.  I'm also aware that it is loath to report bad things about leftists in general and high level leftists in particular.  However, I truly believe that the clamor of an electorate that has been apprised as never before of dirty dealings in high places will prevail and justice will be served in the end.   



albrecht

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 17, 2016, 09:16:52 AM
I don't know man, you're talking about stuff from 15-20 years ago. I watch what complete failures the Establishment Republicans are and I read about the tentacles the Clinton Foundation has running throughout the entire webwork of the American system. I just don't see anything in the Republicans beyond them being the Washington Generals to the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters.

Just look at what a bitch of a man Paul Ryan is. You think this guy is going to do anything but bow to the biggest political syndicate in American history?
Because, aside from a few outliers on the national level, both Parties' politicians most important role is to keep the gravy train running, lining their pockets (or their supporters pockets,) increase the size and scope in government, and maintain the complex tax code to the benefits of rich people, attorneys, accountants, banks, tech companies, and large companies. So that they can be re-elected or get a future job at a think-tank, law-firm, lobby-firm, Foundation, academia, etc. Remember rich people, with few exceptions, don't have to deal with the problems the government is causing for "the little people:" small farmers, middle class, working poor, etc with open-borders, "refugees," failing school, bankrupted cities, environmental problems, tax codes, regulations. They have armed security, they send their kids to elite private schools, they have fences/gates around their homes and neighborhoods (that usually are exclusively white or at least only rich people live there,) they can import or eat whatever food they wish, etc. And so many now benefit from subsidies, government give-aways, regulatory capture, tax loop-holes- not just the "welfare queens" but, importantly, corporate farmers, defense contractors, large industries, banks, media, etc.
Anyone wanting to shake up the system, and any kind of populism or concern for the middle class, regardless of where they stand on the political spectrum, is an anathema to the DC/NYC/BOS/LA/SF establishment.

albrecht

Hillary and her minions and protectors in the media can't blame all these dumped emails and what is discussed in them on "Russians" or "hackers in their mom's basement" or whatever other deflection from the corruption, illegality and lack of proper protocol, and cravenness shown in her internal communications.
Here is the latest of several FBI releases (redacted):

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-04-of-04/view

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html

starrmtn001

SR1271, NBC Crew - Crooked Hillary’s Massive Meltdown at Sept. 7th Forum. 10.17.16.


https://youtu.be/_NfFAaPZqs8

mikuthing01

Quote from: starrmtn001 on October 17, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
SR1271, NBC Crew - Crooked Hillary’s Massive Meltdown at Sept. 7th Forum. 10.17.16.


https://youtu.be/_NfFAaPZqs8

Breaking News: Hillary is a cunt!

I think even if there was video of her having her psychotic melt down it wouldn't change the minds of the hillbots voting for her.

bateman

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 17, 2016, 11:36:55 AM
Meh... didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know. I know the Democrats are crooked and I know they're rigging elections and manipulating the media and their marks. I also know they're intentionally inciting violence.

I don't think this video is going to be a factor. I also think it's too long and poorly edited to become viral.

Unproven til now. This is a very big deal, but nobody except Breitbart and Daily Caller are reporting on it, as far as I can tell.

Meanwhile, on Fox:

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/788140510749814786

Juan

I'm getting texts from a woman organizing Hillary rallies in Florida.  She wants my help. As Obama wanted to spread the wealth around,and the emails show she received millions in foreign contributions, I've asked the woman how much she's spreading my way. So far, no reply.

henge0stone

Quote from: VoteQuimby on October 10, 2016, 12:16:56 AM
Can you believe this fat rich champagne liberal?

https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/785352038980911104

I used to believe in this son of a bitch. What a mark I was.

Whats in her heart depends on how much money you have given her.

albrecht

According to some interview Drudge gave to Alex there is going to be some bombshell sex stuff about Hillary coming up. Since it is Alex, I don't know since he is a master of hyperbole, but Drudge was the one who mainstreamed what turned out to be a real sex scandal with Lewinsky when the media refused to touch it so, if he did make those statements, I could believe Drudge. There has always been rumors, straight and lesbian, about Hillary. Will be interesting.

ItsOver

Quote from: bateman on October 17, 2016, 03:55:50 PM
Unproven til now. This is a very big deal, but nobody except Breitbart and Daily Caller are reporting on it, as far as I can tell.

Meanwhile, on Fox:

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/788140510749814786
Fox is fucking worthless.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on October 17, 2016, 02:31:16 PM
Hillary and her minions and protectors in the media can't blame all these dumped emails and what is discussed in them on "Russians" or "hackers in their mom's basement" or whatever other deflection from the corruption, illegality and lack of proper protocol, and cravenness shown in her internal communications.
Here is the latest of several FBI releases (redacted):

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-04-of-04/view

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html


Notwithstanding the fact that the FBI didn't bite, isn't proposing a quid pro quo arrangement actionable in the same way soliciting a bribe would be?    I understand that it might be a less serious offense but wouldn't the same legal principal apply? 


ItsOver

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 17, 2016, 04:27:55 PM

Notwithstanding the fact that the FBI didn't bite, isn't proposing a quid pro quo arrangement actionable in the same way soliciting a bribe would be?    I understand that it might be a less serious offense but wouldn't the same legal principal apply?
Big Hill is guilty as hell.  Officials in the executive branch, which would include the Secretary of State, are supposed to avoid even THE APPEARANCE of a potential conflict of interest, according to the Ethics in Government Act.  Of course, it's all a big joke now, thanks to a corrupt Federal government.




Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on October 17, 2016, 04:29:06 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rupert-murdoch-loves-hillary-clinton/ <--censored now, I guess?
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/rupert_murdoch_and_hillary_clinton_animal_farm_politics
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rupert_murdock_hosting_hillary_clinton_fundraiser/


It seems to me that the start of Fox's seeming disenchantment with Trump coincided with Greta's abrupt departure and Brit Hume's taking her place.  I recall in one of his first several programs he reacted what I thought was a bit too strongly to something one of the junior reporters said about Clinton that was negative.  Of course, this was also about the same time Roger Ailes got axed. Was this just a management shakeup and redirection or did someone make Fox an offer it couldn't refuse.  In any case,  it was a sea change.

albrecht

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 17, 2016, 04:27:55 PM

Notwithstanding the fact that the FBI didn't bite, isn't proposing a quid pro quo arrangement actionable in the same way soliciting a bribe would be?    I understand that it might be a less serious offense but wouldn't the same legal principal apply?
Rule of Law, anti-corruption standards, security rules, or even basic protocol and decorum don't apply to the Clintons. Never have and likely never will (at least in this life depending on your view of what happens afterwards.) Now things like health issues etc might catch up to them but the government  and the media has basically given them a free reign from prosecution, sanction, or even criticism- likely due to what they know on people during their decades of corruption and using government agencies (from Arkansas days to White House days) to dig up dirt on people and compile personal enemy lists and files on people.

bateman

Quote“So B and I did the Chicago Trump event where we shut down, like all the yeah…” confirms Rodriguez, who also admitted to shutting down the highway at a Trump event in Arizona.

“I’m saying we have mentally ill people, that we pay to do shit, make no mistake,” says Foval in the video. “Over the last twenty years, I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner, and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel, and a shower.  And I put them in a program.  Like I’ve done that.  But the reality is, a lot of people especially our union guys.  A lot of our union guys…they’ll do whatever you want.  They’re rock and roll. When I need to get something done in Arkansas, the first guy I call is the head of the AFL-CIO down there, because he will say, ‘What do you need?’  And I will say, I need a guy who will do this, this and this.  And they find that guy.  And that guy will be like, Hell yeah, let’s do it.”

This Project Veritas video is unreal, and receiving next to zero media coverage.

albrecht

Quote from: bateman on October 17, 2016, 04:56:44 PM
This Project Veritas video is unreal, and receiving next to zero media coverage.
The way Trump is handling all the FBI email dumps, Wikileaks emails, DCLeaks emails, The Foundation stuff, and now the Project Veritas and other 'undercover' video of Clinton operatives saying and bragging about amazing things, some of which might be legal but certainly in poor taste, and some of which is illegal. Instead he is focusing on defense of spurious rape claims decades ago instead of being aggressive on these real, or at least more important because they effect everyone, issues. Almost makes me think as my initial thoughts, that he is a Clinton plant! That might've gone rouge but still.

He needs to buy media time (if the Clinton networks would sell it to him) on these issues because the main newspapers and tv news are all for Clinton (even give her money.) Just show some clips of the emails and undercover videos, show some Muslim beheading some people and throwing homosexuals off roofs, show some illegals gangraping some girl, show the corruption of the Foundation, show the illegals burning American flags, show the riots and black unemployment rate along with comments from Clinton regarding "super predators" and Bill deriding Obama being black, etc. (Separate ad buys depending on markets and focus on one issue at a time.)



Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on October 17, 2016, 04:55:45 PM
Rule of Law, anti-corruption standards, security rules, or even basic protocol and decorum don't apply to the Clintons. Never have and likely never will (at least in this life depending on your view of what happens afterwards.) Now things like health issues etc might catch up to them but the government  and the media has basically given them a free reign from prosecution, sanction, or even criticism- likely due to what they know on people during their decades of corruption and using government agencies (from Arkansas days to White House days) to dig up dirt on people and compile personal enemy lists and files on people.

Well I guess this calls for a French style revolution.  We'll all assemble on the Villiage Green at midnight with torches and pitch forks in hand and storm DNC headquarters.  Does anyone have an heirloom Guillotine laying around in the attic? 


albrecht

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 17, 2016, 05:26:29 PM
Well I guess this calls for a French style revolution.  We'll all assemble on the Villiage Green at midnight with torches and pitch forks in hand and storm DNC headquarters.  Does anyone have an heirloom Guillotine laying around in the attic?
No, but I do have some trebuchets left over from a "pumpkin chunkin" contest a few years back that could throw other stuff and some old pitchforks from the family farm.  ;) Kidding, we don't want a French style revolution. That gets ugly and ends up in a worse place.

ItsOver

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 17, 2016, 05:26:29 PM
Well I guess this calls for a French style revolution.  We'll all assemble on the Villiage Green at midnight with torches and pitch forks in hand and storm DNC headquarters.  Does anyone have an heirloom Guillotine laying around in the attic?
Don't support the corrupt media.  Don't subscribe to their corrupt channels, don't buy their newpapers, don't click on their websites, don't support their sponsors.  Fuck'em.  Praise MV.

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