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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 07:13:24 AM

tertiaryimam

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 12, 2013, 07:08:52 PM
Once again...He had 30 days to get out of the contract.
He left in 45 days.

If these problems were so huge that it would not allow him "the show he wanted" or "proper growth..." he should have seen that at day 29 and rectified it before day 31... But to 'suddenly' see it at day 45 and quitting- He guaranteed his career was essentially over. Had he waited 6 months, I might be more inclined to believe him.

Regardless, you believe Art- I do not.

I have my own opinion as to what happened and why (and why its being played out as it is..) and it isnt that I think Art wanted "to piss off fans."


I knew a "Dark Penguin" in Miami, Oklahoma. He was with the Insane Juggaloe Rydas. Last I heard he bought some land in Montana to start an Alpaca farm. You're not the same dude, are ya?

Xitheron

Quote from: morphiaflow on November 12, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
Art,

I've taken you at your word on everything so far and I've been reluctant to join the chorus of those who say you were simply looking for an "out" because you decided that you really didn't want to be on the air anymore. You say you do and you would if you could. I still want to believe that.

So I have a hard time stomaching the idea that you *won't* fight to get out of your NC. I would think sheerly as a matter of principle, whether you go back on the air or not, you would owe it to yourself to regain your freedom, nevermind for the millions of listeners who have missed you on the air.

And given Premiere's evident hand in this and your past history with them, as you so agonizingly detailed on your first DM episode, I would think that would just add fuel to the fire.

I'm speaking on behalf of the many loyal and faithful listeners who have never doubted or turned on you. Please, please, PLEASE fight this. Assemble a legal team. Get out of the NC. Then decide whether you are going to go back on the air again or not. Don't let PremRat and Noory win this round, because if they do, I don't think there will ever be any way to challenge them or regain that lost ground again.

^^This Art This!!^^

Plus-- you may not have to do much... Just hire a barracuda Lawyer and let him do all the work. It may be fairly easy to get out of that NC. Might as well test the waters...?

PathoJen

Any thoughts as to whether or not Mr. Bell truly wants out of the NC? I almost feel as though he's once again just pacifying us.


DarKPenguiN

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 12, 2013, 07:11:58 PM

I knew a "Dark Penguin" in Miami, Oklahoma. He was with the Insane Juggaloe Rydas. Last I heard he bought some land in Montana to start an Alpaca farm. You're not the same dude, are ya?

LOl no..

Not that there is anything wrong with Juggalos I suppose. =P

Queen

So many in MV's chat and not many talking.

PathoJen

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 12, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
LOl no..

Not that there is anything wrong with Juggalos I suppose. =P

I like alpacas, but I'll pass on the juggalos.

sherry440

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM
We need a unit patch and a guideon.


We've got one! You, Falkie...now how about a secret handshake? ( I was waiting for someone to ask what was for dinner. Wait a minute! Somebody did ask that!)

Catsmile

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 12, 2013, 07:08:52 PM
Once again...He had 30 days to get out of the contract.
He left in 45 days.

If these problems were so huge that it would not allow him "the show he wanted" or "proper growth..." he should have seen that at day 29 and rectified it before day 31... But to 'suddenly' see it at day 45 and quitting- He guaranteed his career was essentially over. Had he waited 6 months, I might be more inclined to believe him.

Regardless, you believe Art- I do not.

I have my own opinion as to what happened and why (and why its being played out as it is..) and it isnt that I think Art wanted "to piss off fans." 

Well... whatever all went on, it is what it is.
Now Dark Matter is over on SXM, it sucks Daves afterglow penis.
Not happy at all about that.
Wish Art had done different also, but I don't know that I would have done any better. :(

tertiaryimam

Quote from: PathoJen on November 12, 2013, 07:15:24 PM
I like alpacas, but I'll pass on the juggalos.

What about alpacalos?


PathoJen

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 12, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
What about alpacalos?

you said you knew a guy who bought an alpaca farm

DarKPenguiN

Quote from: Catsmile on November 12, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
Well... whatever all went on, it is what it is.
Now Dark Matter is over on SXM, it sucks Daves afterglow penis.
Not happy at all about that.
Wish Art had done different also, but I don't know that I would have done any better. :(
I mostly agree...
But if Art had just not quit DM would still be on, C2C would not have replaced it and Snooron would not be having a Pizza Roll party with Tommy this Saturday (invite only...)

Yeah- It sucks. Art Bell was the best. A true legend and his effect on my life and even many of my choices is immense (-really.). He opened my mind to a whole world and was an important part of my youth and young adulthood.

I will never forget that.

Just wishing the ride hadnt ended.

munbeam666

Art get some good lawyers NOW!!! We all love you...

Art Bell

Once again people have it wrong, I had a contract out ANYTIME with 30 days notice, I gave notice and
they waived it.

                                                                                                   Art


tertiaryimam

Quote from: IcicleTrepan on November 12, 2013, 07:13:45 PM
a song for you all

Misfits - Astro Zombies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZJPPOLBDc


Hi Icycle.

What is your opinion of how the Misfits stack up to later Danzig?

I was trying to get through to ask Art bell this but fucking line cut me off.

PathoJen

Quote from: Art Bell on November 12, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
Once again people have it wrong, I had a contract out ANYTIME with 30 days notice, I gave notice and
they waived it.

                                                                                                   Art

I don't get this.

maren

Quote from: PathoJen on November 12, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Any thoughts as to whether or not Mr. Bell truly wants out of the NC? I almost feel as though he's once again just pacifying us.

My sense is that he was on the level.  In fact, I can't help but think all the support on Bellgab has encouraged him to pursue this. 

I've believed him from the beginning, though.  He just sounded so alive and HAPPY when he was doing the show.  I thought, more than once, that it must be like a shot in the arm for him.

Love your Free Art Bell, by the way. 

PathoJen

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 12, 2013, 07:20:47 PM

Hi Icycle.

What is your opinion of how the Misfits stack up to later Danzig?

I was trying to get through to ask Art bell this but fucking line cut me off.

I love this! hahaha!

Falkie2013

Quote from: dortmunder on November 12, 2013, 07:03:07 PM
I had to work it in somehow. But, of course, how could I call in on something that doesn't exist?

You only managed to call in because Jazmunda was in the chat channel and they had to lift the artificial fog bank for him to log in.
Of course, tonight many people had problems listening because the server traffic kept being re-routed to Australia.

tertiaryimam

Quote from: Art Bell on November 12, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
Once again people have it wrong, I had a contract out ANYTIME with 30 days notice, I gave notice and
they waived it.

                                                                                                   Art


So art can leave so long as he gives thirty days notice. Like a two weeks notice, right? And Sirius said, "Nah, buddy, why don't you just go home right now?"

Chine

Quote from: Art Bell on November 12, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
Once again people have it wrong, I had a contract out ANYTIME with 30 days notice, I gave notice and
they waived it.

                                                                                                   Art

Art,

It was good to hear you on GabCast. Wishing you and your family well.

Falkie2013


But seriously, I had to keep logging in and out and finally had to restart my Mac because the show kept going off the air.
If a podcast had these kind of problems with streaming then imagine what was happening with Sirius.
I only heard part of Art's call.
>:(

tertiaryimam

Quote from: PathoJen on November 12, 2013, 07:21:39 PM
I love this! hahaha!


If art needs a bad ass male witch (the term warlock is highly derogatory) to give the ookily-spookilies to the Premrats and Norge, I'm sure Glen Danzig wouldn't mind. . .


the PAIN!

Danzig - I Don't Mind The Pain - Glenn Danzig Performance - Video

Falkie2013

Quote from: munbeam666 on November 12, 2013, 07:20:10 PM
Art get some good lawyers NOW!!! We all love you...

Mega Mega Roswells to that.

maren

Quote from: PathoJen on November 12, 2013, 07:20:54 PM
I don't get this.

I guess that didn't apply to the non-compete portion of the contract. 

It's not unusual for an employer to waive a notice requirement and essentially boot someone out the door when they announce they're leaving, so that part doesn't surprise me.  I don't think Art would have been very happy if he'd had to broadcast those thirty days in order to comply.

Catsmile

Quote from: munbeam666 on November 12, 2013, 07:20:10 PM
Art get some good lawyers NOW!!! We all love you...

When MV uploads the current GabCast!,
people can re/listen to what Art Bell has to day about the NC.
MV will post it here. http://ufoship.com/

Or point your podcast manager to the link below for current listings of MV shows. http://ufoship.com/?feed=podcast


WildCard

Quote from: Art Bell on November 12, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
Once again people have it wrong, I had a contract out ANYTIME with 30 days notice, I gave notice and
they waived it.

                                                                                                   Art
Oh, I didn't get that either.  Last night's program explains why they waived it.

Thanks for being here and thanks for calling in.
Quote from: PathoJen on November 12, 2013, 07:20:54 PM
I don't get this.
It had nothing to do with the non compete. It was just an obligation to give 30 days notice before quitting.

Redwolf

I have been talking to my friend who is an entertainment atty that has been working in LA for over 25 years and in that time he has represented many 'top names' in the 'biz'. His words to me have been...Non Competes are VERY HARD to enforce for the full duration (in Art's terms 2 full years). In a court of a law a judge will deem that to be too long to be 'reasonable' for Art to be able to do what he does i.e. broadcast radio. The only way they can BE ENFORCED is if Art received full compensation or extra compensation for the full term (buyout) of his contract. This is what happened when he left Premiere and thus had to stay off the air. That being said, he forfeited his SXM salary and has not had full or extra compensation from SXM. My Ent. atty friend said that the most any judge would hold him too would be no more than 6 months and probably given that he was on the air for 6 weeks and cited 'streaming' problems that were never addressed by sxm...a judge would rule he would be free and clear of any NC. A good Ent. atty would be able to litigate this in a few weeks and Art would either have to sit and wait a few months or could get right back to work immediately.

The fact that sxm replaced his show with c2c (I know the times slots differ a bit) and c2c streams their show from their site as well as archives their shows on their own apps...this is enough reason for an atty or judge to rule in favor of Art being able to begin work right away and not have to wait 2 FULL YEARS! Art offered sxm the same thing that c2c does...non-exclusive content streamed from other sources. sxm said NO to ART and YES to c2c. No judge in the land would make Art sit on the sidelines for 2 full years.

This is not conjecture...this is full disclosure from a very reputable entertainment atty who knows his stuff! Big time!

All Art needs to do is fight it and he will be able to 'win his freedom!'

I hope he wants it!

I hope he wants back on the air!

Fingers crossed!

Go get 'em Art! The law is ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!

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