Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

[Heather Wade]

Jazzy Jaz the Munda, you were a fantastic caller.  I refuse to believe it was you, but it is very fun to imagine it.   

[Bigfoot]

Id be thankfull and wouldn't hire that landscaper. They brought on themselves by not working with Art when he was given the wrong set of tools for the kind of show he does, nothing more.  Its is them Ignoring him that is perpetuating all this. If the answer is no is it so hard to call and say, NO. I myself never had a problem but there has to be some reason the floor fell out after 30 days. Art went about it a bit dramatic which was wrong but that's just Art. He is a very passionate person. If your legacy was at steak wouldn't you? I say all this respectfuly to you and Art. Lets just hope they let him off the NC. Then we will all know for sure what's what. If I was serius/xm Id let him off only if he shut up about them.

if my legacy was at steak, i'd make the best damn steak in town

i'd bring in all the landscapers to eat at my steakhouse

they could even call and shoot the shit with me on the cellphones

[ItsOver]

I did a little research on Sirius after Art made his returning to broadcasting announcement.  I found that Sirius had some issues, especially with streaming.  Little things such as this, from 2009.

http://consumerist.com/2009/03/25/sirius-streaming-radio-not-working-for-some-customers/

Oh, well, I thought I'll sign-up anyway since I wanted to hear Art.  I can always cancel if it's completely unworkable.  Silly me.  I never thought the host of Dark Matter would be the one cancelling supposedly because of such issues.  At least I didn't sign a 2 year non-radio listening clause.

[kingdomofsigh]

The only issue yet unresolved in my mind is........what is a troll?!

Sorry Sherry440. Couldn't resist...  :

http://bit.ly/tjcqAs

[Heather Wade]

At the beginning of all this, Art said the show would fly if there "were no anomalies".

There was one.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

I sure hope Art Bell doesn't triple the national debt or cut taxes before he raises them twelve times during his time in office. /Reagan'd

Or add $6 trillion to the debt, lie incessantly, and screw up our healthcare system.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

You're absolutely right. Ronald Reagan excelled at being a cunt well past 70.

You must be thinking of Nancy Pelosi?!

[HaveAccess]

Colorado Esq
Reply #8873 on: Today at 09:44:22 PM »
Quote from: HaveAccess on Today at 09:31:41 PM

We have waited 10 years for you...And after only 6 weeks you quit! And then you say -- state--- that you will comply with the NC clause?

When those among us with legal experience say say NC clauses-- can-- be challenged?

And your embrace of that NC clause....seems odd..
Not only can the NC be challenged, under these circumstances it would be unreasonable to enforce it and I doubt any court would enforce it. There may be issues of monetary recovery, but enforcement of a two year restraint of employment arising out of a mere 6 weeks of problematic employment with possible issues of breech is unreasonable and unlikely.

Colorado Esq....Excellant!

[ItsOver]

At the beginning of all this, Art said the show would fly if there "were no anomalies".

There was one.

It's just really sad to me that it seems our desire for listening to Art was greater than Art's desire to tolerate anomalies.

[Bigfoot]

Interesting.  My experience after the 30 day trial without having given them any credit card and then never choosing a plan was that they somehow stole and used a new credit card account that I received two days before Halloween to charge me ON Halloween.  Today my credit card people are going after them with a fraud investigation.  I went ahead and used another email address and signed on for another 30 day trial without a credit card today to see what they pull in 6 weeks as capital one cancelled the account they stole and are expediting delivery of a new one.  So that's twice I
have signed up for a free trial.  They actually hacked somewhere into my Internet data and stole a credit card account to charge, with the first sign up. 

So you're scamming them while they're scamming you? Excellent.

[Suzeca]

Interesting.  My experience after the 30 day trial without having given them any credit card and then never choosing a plan was that they somehow stole and used a new credit card account that I received two days before Halloween to charge me ON Halloween.  Today my credit card people are going after them with a fraud investigation.  I went ahead and used another email address and signed on for another 30 day trial without a credit card today to see what they pull in 6 weeks as capital one cancelled the account they stole and are expediting delivery of a new one.  So that's twice I
have signed up for a free trial.  They actually hacked somewhere into my Internet data and stole a credit card account to charge, with the first sign

I have repeatedly told them when when ive called to pay my bill that they are NOT ALLOWED to automatically take money out of my account. In the end they turned around and did it anyway against my wishes and it wasnt just one month it was 6 months in advance. After a couple times of that my card expired and they were no longer able to get in. They forgot to turn my radio off tho so i enjoyed 1 year of free service Ha Ha

Fuck em
I hate that company
Im on Arts side

[Job]

I don't get those who don't get Art honoring the NC.  Isn't that a legal agreement?  If he just popped up elsewhere and began a new show, wouldn't he get sued?   I'd guess if there's a legal way out of it he's pursuing that option.

It is as though they expect him to publically state that he has no intention of honoring his contract.  What would the legal consequences be for doing something like that?

[TheGrimCreeper1]

I have a new 30 day trial as of today.  I can't wait for 6 weeks to see what they pull!

If you have enough email addresses, you can get endless 30 day trials. But you didn't hear that from me. 

[Uncle Duke]

and thaaat's where you lost me.

You should have read the rest of the post, I thought I was fairly straight foward in my explantion. 

To summerize:

1) I thought Art lacked the energy he once had.  I can relate, I'm not much younger than Art. 

2) Many, if not most, of his longtime guests were trying to sell the same old stories or were goofier than they were previously.  I was actually embarrassed for Tim Good.

3) With a few exceptions, his new guests were duds.  Even a talented interviewer like Art couldn't get anything out of that kid in Nevada or those two female ghost hunters.

4) His call volume was clearly down, a fact I attribute to fewer listeners due to his show being on a pay-for-service network as a opposed to free, over-the-air radio.  With an overall decrease in total calls, there was an apparent decrease in caller quality.  Art's frustration was obvious on this point during "Spooky Matter". Sirius may have 27 millions subscribers, but clearly most were not listening to him.

5) His topics, while still fascinating to many of us, have been done to death.  Even one of the food channels had a paranormal show.  Back in the day, Art was the Lone Ranger.  The wonder that was 90s are gone.

6) I think some (many?) of Art's fans outgrew the show, especially those now in their formative wage earning years.  Your priorities change from ages <25 to when your >40.  Mortgages, work responsibilities, braces for the kids, health insurance, etc. 

As I said some months ago, Art's early run at C2C was in a perfect storm....personal computers coming of age, the X-Files on TV, many of us (as was Art) tired of the political talk shows, and basically the rebirth of the interest of UFOs with surge in Roswell and Area 51 books/stories. 

[Spinner]

I'm listening to the replay of the Charles Faddis interview. Awesome!
I guess after tonight, I won't be listening to Sirius again.
Unless they get Art back on, of course.

[dortmunder]

You must be thinking of Nancy Pelosi?!

I must be thinking of both of them, actually.

[PathoJen]

Has Howard commented on art bell's departure?

I was wondering that myself. He def said something when Art announced he was going on Sirius, but not sure he said anything about Art leaving. If you find out, post link.

[Derpspiracy]

I have a new 30 day trial as of today.  I can't wait for 6 weeks to see what they pull!

Wait. So, somehow Sirius "hacked" (your words) your financial information from God knows where -- not once, but twice. It was apparently bad enough that you complained about it here several times in this thread alone. And then you signed up for a third free trial?

Were you, like, expecting Saint Francis of Assissi to miraculously come blasting through your radio this time or something?

[whatatrip]

It's not competition against Dark Matter that they're trying to protect against (which doesn't exist without Art Bell), the non-compete is for SiriusXM as a whole.

I am sure that is what Sirius will argue but as far as I know, Sirius has no show that could be said to compete with DM. If there is I would like to know what it is and see for myself whether it is a competitor of DM. What If Art wanted to do a radio show on basket weaving from his home? Would that be considered a breach of his non-compete? That would be pretty silly, IMO, to call that a breach of contract, again, IMO. That law suit would make Art Bell even more famous and popular, LOL.

I would also think that if the contract allowed him to walk away from the deal after 30 days, any reasonable court would consider that the NC can also be walked away from. Art may have to refund the $75K in that case which I am sure he would be willing to do.

Outside of that, maybe Art is right to think that there is something else going on. The outcome of all of this is that AB cannot do broadcasting for 2 years. Now we have to find out who would benefit from this. Let the conspiracies begin, LOL.

[DesertFox]

At the beginning of all this, Art said the show would fly if there "were no anomalies".

There was one.

If you want to be cynical--you can say Art just wanted a short comeback and knew he had a ready excuse from the beginning.

[Bigfoot]

Wait. So, somehow Sirius "hacked" (your words) your financial information from God knows where -- not once, but twice. It was apparently bad enough that you complained about it here several times in this thread alone. And then you signed up for a third free trial?

Were you, like, expecting Saint Francis of Assissi to miraculously come blasting through your radio this time or something?

Well, everyone knows that when you a company "scams" you, you just keep going back into it.   :

[Heather Wade]

Exactly!  3 days in.  I think he's awesome for telling us these things.  You saw what Sirius said.  People actually writing them and asking them what happened is absurd.  I really think if he keeps reading here and is also faced with too much red tape or an investment of too much time or money he may just say the hell with it. 

About every 100 posts someone says something positive.  The comments may be comical but I am also picking up some real hatred here.  It took me awhile to see it it but I definitely do.

I've gotten over the initial shock, and try to put myself in Art's shoes.  If we think the silence is deafaning... imagine what it's like in Art's studio right now. 

*crickets, very, very, sad crickets*

Let's keep our eye on the ball... Tuesday.  Look to the East on Tuesday at dusk... lol.

[Uncle Duke]

Well, ok, where's the hole in the story?

I've made those points several times, you're not going to agree with my take any more than I yours.  The difference is, I can accept you have a different take than I and others.  I don't consider my position "airtight", just reasonable based on my life experiences and education.  I accept you have different experiences/education and come to different conclusions. 

[Bigfoot]

Hey there pal.  First slow down.  Secondly if u r ADD then read what I said again and finally don't make things up I didn't say.  What is your problem?

His problem probably lies in the fact that you're full of shit, trying to get out of paying what's due.

[Spinner]

I blame Bush for Art leaving or retiring for the 32nd time

Ooooo, so we're playing the blame game?
Alrighty then, here's my list:

Of course, Bush (all of them!)
Dave Noorie
Adobe Flash Player
Error 1001
Error 305
Spiders (all of them!)
The giggling Aussie
Peach fuzz
The letter "S"


I'm sure I'm leaving some other guilty "entities" out...

[Derpspiracy]

Hey there pal.  First slow down.  Secondly if u r ADD then read what I said again and finally don't make things up I didn't say.  What is your problem?

The only problem I have is with your narration. I've actually gone back and read your posts, just to make sure I got it right. Either coherent logic has been suspended, or you haven't told the full story. Either way, I'm done shaking my head and saying aloud "srsly wtf".

[retired41]

so what time is gabcast Monday

[littlechris]

Yup.  I'm still subscribed.  Fingers crossed everything works out and Art's back double time...

Same here, im still subscribed, and i only signed up for Artie, and have only listened to Artie with the subscription. Im hoping all will work out. Ill give it another week max, then ill cancel.

[Heather Wade]

Gabcast same bat channel 7:00 pm central time.

[Bigfoot]

I don't even listen to Sirius.  Asshole.

You just said you've signed up for at least 2 free trials?

Look, you have to sign up with CC information. That's how "free" trials work.  In just about anything.  Most companies just automatically bill you if you don't actively opt out. 

This sucks, but it's not a "scam" by any means.  Next time, do some research into the product you're signing up for, and if you want to claim you're getting scammed, try not to admit you're doing the same.