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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 07:13:24 AM

eeieeyeoh

Quote from: AppealPlay on February 01, 2014, 07:45:25 PM
I need support if you dig.

You gotta dig your own foxhole. 4 feet down should protect you from the storm. Tomorrow you get to to dig a new one that may be suitable to sleep in. Just don't step in no foxhole tomorrow.

jazmunda

Another comment from Art:

"Well I think I know exactly who is behind all this and when you see my choice of time slots for the new show it will be obvious. As far as the Studio is concerned I can have it together in a Week. My Health save my back is just spiffy. If you look at how this all came down it seems plain to me."

Heather Wade

Quote from: jazmunda on February 02, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
Another comment from Art:

"Well I think I know exactly who is behind all this and when you see my choice of time slots for the new show it will be obvious. As far as the Studio is concerned I can have it together in a Week. My Health save my back is just spiffy. If you look at how this all came down it seems plain to me."

Dangit, so it was Nooron who stole my monkey paw, again

dortmunder

Quote from: jazmunda on February 02, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
Another comment from Art:

"Well I think I know exactly who is behind all this and when you see my choice of time slots for the new show it will be obvious. As far as the Studio is concerned I can have it together in a Week. My Health save my back is just spiffy. If you look at how this all came down it seems plain to me."

When and where was this comment made and what's he talking about?

jazmunda

Quote from: dortmunder on February 02, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
When and where was this comment made and what's he talking about?

He commented on Facebook in the comments section of his latest post that you put up the other day.

dortmunder

Quote from: jazmunda on February 02, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
He commented on Facebook in the comments section of his latest post that you put up the other day.


Oh, wow! For a moment I thought he was anouncing a new show. Dammit!

jazmunda

Quote from: dortmunder on February 02, 2014, 09:33:36 PM

Oh, wow! For a moment I thought he was anouncing a new show. Dammit!

He seems to be doing a lot of pre-planning for his new show in 19 months time. I still don't know what I'm going to eat for dinner tonight.

dortmunder

Quote from: jazmunda on February 02, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
He seems to be doing a lot of pre-planning for his new show in 19 months time. I still don't know what I'm going to eat for dinner tonight.

Well, I suppose it's a good sign. Means he's still into it.

jazmunda

Quote from: dortmunder on February 02, 2014, 10:43:37 PM
Well, I suppose it's a good sign. Means he's still into it.

I'm not complaining. As long as he can maintain the enthusiasm I'll be happy. After all it's all about my happiness.

dortmunder

Quote from: jazmunda on February 02, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
I'm not complaining. As long as he can maintain the enthusiasm I'll be happy. After all it's all about my happiness.

You have it wrong. It's all about mine.

dan7800

Art will do a free show for a bit, and then when it only has 1,000 listeners a night, he will cancel.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: dan7800 on February 03, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
Art will do a free show for a bit, and then when it only has 1,000 listeners a night, he will cancel.

whatever happens happens.  i just want to be able to hear art broadcasting again.  i don't really care too much about what might happen or what has happened.  i, too, am worried about the realities of internet broadcasting and what it means for art's potential longevity (or lack thereof) upon return, but it's not at the forefront of my thoughts on the matter.  i just want him to start broadcasting again.

b_dubb

What does SiriusXM benefit by forcing Art to stick to his NC? At this point it's just a fuck you to Art.  And for Art to argue in court that he should be released from his NC because SiriusXM provided sub standard streaming would take roughly as long (or longer) that remains on his NC.  So the best and cheapest solution is to wait.  Which sucks.  If you're a SiriusXM subscriber I hope you unsubscribe cause they're assholes.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: b_dubb on February 03, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
If you're a SiriusXM subscriber I hope you unsubscribe cause they're assholes.

i added streaming service to my dad's already existing sirius account which only cost me $63 for three years of service, so i decided the effort of cancelling would probably not be worth the pocket change they'd refund me.  definitely won't allow it to renew, though.  i don't even have the sirius app on my phone any longer because it's poorly written and i don't trust it since it has a background process that runs ALL THE TIME, regardless of whether you've used the app or not.  it's a clunky lump of shit.  opie and anthony mentioned something about sirius acknowledging their streaming service blows chunks and that they plan to completely rebuild the whole thing (the streaming service infrastructure AND the app) within the year.  perhaps if art had just waited, all would have been fixed.  then again... perhaps it was his departure that finally prompted them to give their notoriously flawed streaming service some attention.  o&a certainly were not critical of his decision to leave.  they understood completely, but i think they've stuck around for so long because they needed the money.  art doesn't.

ItsOver

Quote from: b_dubb on February 03, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
What does SiriusXM benefit by forcing Art to stick to his NC? At this point it's just a fuck you to Art...

Since Premrad is back in bed with Sirius, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a little "wink-wink... keep putting it to that Bell guy," after the bad blood between Art and Premrad and Art laying out the details of at least one grievance with Premrad during the first DM show.  I doubt Sirius was thrilled with how it all went down with DM at the end, either.  The suits are probably in no mood to do him any favor.

jazmunda

Quote from: b_dubb on February 03, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
What does SiriusXM benefit by forcing Art to stick to his NC? At this point it's just a fuck you to Art.  And for Art to argue in court that he should be released from his NC because SiriusXM provided sub standard streaming would take roughly as long (or longer) that remains on his NC.  So the best and cheapest solution is to wait.  Which sucks.  If you're a SiriusXM subscriber I hope you unsubscribe cause they're assholes.

As much as I love Art and would give my right nut to hear him broadcast right now why should Sirius release him from his NC? If I had the legal right to do so I would do the same thing if someone broke a contract with me and not just to be an asshole either. I also agreed with, although I didn't like, their decision to not allow Art to broadcast for free. Why should they go against their business model and give their milk away for free?

I'm not bagging Art. Geographically I shouldn't have been able to get his show and I could have just not found a way to subscribe and got the show illegally for free but I was one of those that ponied up and got burned. Having said that I would do it all over again to get another six weeks. It was a fun albeit cock tease of a ride.

DesertFox

Quote from: jazmunda on February 02, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
Another comment from Art:

"Well I think I know exactly who is behind all this and when you see my choice of time slots for the new show it will be obvious. As far as the Studio is concerned I can have it together in a Week. My Health save my back is just spiffy. If you look at how this all came down it seems plain to me."




Thanks Jaz and Dort for Art Bell updates AND keeping the flame alive.  Much better than those who in a juvenile way poop or piss on anything Art nowadays!  Art did say he was going to broadcast asap AND I always thought he wouldn't make this unnecessary pledge unless he thought to do it.  And this just verifies that.

That said--about the viability of an internet broadcast?  Don't know how huge it could get--but there are those who do get huge podcast numbers.  And the IMPORTANT point would be Art making his "art"--quality is nothing to sneeze at even if not getting quite the numbers of the past.

I'd be listening.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: DesertFox on February 03, 2014, 12:12:05 PM
Don't know how huge it could get--but there are those who do get huge podcast numbers.

that's true.  the first name to come to mind is joe rogan, but it didn't happen overnight.  joe had to work hard and build an audience.  i'm not sure if art has it in him to slog through that.

DesertFox

Quote from: MV on February 03, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
that's true.  the first name to come to mind is joe rogan, but it didn't happen overnight.  joe had to work hard and build an audience.  i'm not sure if art has it in him to slog through that.




I do like how motivated Art sounds--sounds full of piss and vinegar.  Plus like the long planning period he has.  That said I tend to be an optimist!  He does have an intense cult base that can help him evangelize the show--that doesn't hurt.  Despite some detractors he still has a good deal of those fans.  But regardless as long as he does a great show--I'd be happy.

Also ironic this type of show is what John Welles is going to do.

dortmunder

Quote from: MV on February 03, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
that's true.  the first name to come to mind is joe rogan, but it didn't happen overnight.  joe had to work hard and build an audience.  i'm not sure if art has it in him to slog through that.

Rogan did start with a fanbase too. I think his broad appeal comes much from the fact that he spans a range of interests from comedy to MMA fighting and he was able to successfully bridge those two with his podcast. He has a life and career outside of simply broadcasting. It's not so true with Art. He wasn't really in the spotlight or doing anything else during his hiatus that would have kept his name fresh outside of his fanbase. I think the success of any future Art Bell internet show will depend strongly on promotion  and him having a presence outside of radio. That might mean deeper and more direct involvement in social media and even doing television interviews. Personally, I would love to see a well-made documentary on the man's life and work. Something of high production value and with wide distribution.

bigchucka

Quote from: dortmunder on February 03, 2014, 01:44:25 PM
Personally, I would love to see a well-made documentary on the man's life and work. Something of high production value and with wide distribution.

Depending on what spin they put on that, and what some of the "rest of the stories" really are, you may regret watching that.

dan7800

Quote from: MV on February 03, 2014, 12:02:08 PM
i added streaming service to my dad's already existing sirius account which only cost me $63 for three years of service, so i decided the effort of cancelling would probably not be worth the pocket change they'd refund me.  definitely won't allow it to renew, though.  i don't even have the sirius app on my phone any longer because it's poorly written and i don't trust it since it has a background process that runs ALL THE TIME, regardless of whether you've used the app or not.  it's a clunky lump of shit.  opie and anthony mentioned something about sirius acknowledging their streaming service blows chunks and that they plan to completely rebuild the whole thing (the streaming service infrastructure AND the app) within the year.  perhaps if art had just waited, all would have been fixed.  then again... perhaps it was his departure that finally prompted them to give their notoriously flawed streaming service some attention.  o&a certainly were not critical of his decision to leave.  they understood completely, but i think they've stuck around for so long because they needed the money.  art doesn't.

There were many alternatives than Art jumping ship so quickly. Even 6 weeks isn't long enough

jazmunda

Quote from: dortmunder on February 03, 2014, 01:44:25 PM
Rogan did start with a fanbase too. I think his broad appeal comes much from the fact that he spans a range of interests from comedy to MMA fighting and he was able to successfully bridge those two with his podcast. He has a life and career outside of simply broadcasting. It's not so true with Art. He wasn't really in the spotlight or doing anything else during his hiatus that would have kept his name fresh outside of his fanbase. I think the success of any future Art Bell internet show will depend strongly on promotion  and him having a presence outside of radio. That might mean deeper and more direct involvement in social media and even doing television interviews. Personally, I would love to see a well-made documentary on the man's life and work. Something of high production value and with wide distribution.

I agree. Surely he could use the artbell.com and social media more wisely rather than being a hub for weird and wacky articles that Keith finds on the web.

Art could use the website as a blog and keep his name and point of view out there.

There's lots of possibilities and he could be building a fan base while he sits on the sidelines.

dortmunder

Quote from: jazmunda on February 04, 2014, 12:51:08 AM
I agree. Surely he could use the artbell.com and social media more wisely rather than being a hub for weird and wacky articles that Keith finds on the web.

Art could use the website as a blog and keep his name and point of view out there.

There's lots of possibilities and he could be building a fan base while he sits on the sidelines.

Also his Twitter account.

jazmunda

Quote from: dortmunder on February 04, 2014, 01:50:50 AM
Also his Twitter account.

I forgot about that. There's no stopping him now. Add Instagram into the mix and he'll take the world by storm.

Quote from: jazmunda on February 04, 2014, 02:05:39 AM
I forgot about that. There's no stopping him now. Add Instagram into the mix and he'll take the world by storm.

Good evening jazmunda!

Here in California it's 19 hours earlier, 2 am. Have a great 9:13 pm.

jazmunda

Quote from: guildnavigator on February 04, 2014, 02:13:50 AM
Good evening jazmunda!

Here in California it's 19 hours earlier, 2 am. Have a great 9:13 pm.

Thanks mate. Just sitting on the couch watching TV. Nothing much exciting happens in the next 19 hours.

Quote from: jazmunda on February 04, 2014, 02:19:15 AM
Thanks mate. Just sitting on the couch watching TV. Nothing much exciting happens in the next 19 hours.

Indeed! I'll be watching Big Trouble in Little China, and later, Poltergeist.

jazmunda

Quote from: guildnavigator on February 04, 2014, 02:36:19 AM
Indeed! I'll be watching Big Trouble in Little China, and later, Poltergeist.

2 of my favorite childhood movies. I've watched BTILC a million times. I used to be able to recite it word for word. No horseshit Jack. Toke one for me.

AppealPlay

In 19 months we'll have another set of new Art Bell shows...yay, I guess. :-\

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