20131017 - Ghost Buster Gals - Ghosts

[DanTSX]

I missed the show. Was it any good? haha @ Noory posting here again.

It was campy at best.  If you are REALLY bored.......

[ItsOver]

...haha @ Noory posting here again.

We all know "somebody has to keep an eye on us." 

[phrodo]

I had missed this post by Dave.

So Noory says he cancelled the Gals because the dates were too close. Apparently that was no problem when he saw Art's scheduled interviews and decided to move up Tobias McGriff's appearance to the night before Art's interview.

Yeah, Dave, keep on spewing BS. We believe you.  :

Jorch should realize that the VAST majority of Art's listeners no longer bother with C2C anymore -- so what difference does it make regarding duplicate guests? He's probably scared shitless that the few who do still listen to his crapfest and DM will finally realize what how totally inept he is if there is a recent and direct comparison of interesting guests can be -- glossed over vs. really being professionally interviewed by the master of the craft.

[widespread1]

I took your advise and just read all of Gnoory's posts... none of them can be construed as lies or anything like the shit some of you are claiming. It looks to me like he is simply defending himself against a crowd hoping to win brownie points with Art. He has been nothing but civil in this forum as far as I can tell. That is something that cannot be said for Onan. I think a lot of you are mean spirited and enjoy being on a team of anonymous  brownie point winners. It is my suggestion that you leave the war to Art and Gnoory, but I think you guys are enjoying yourselves too much to let that happen. I also suggest that some of you go back and read all of his posts. Then go read all of Onan's. You will see a very clear picture.
I am not at all picking a team here. That kind of choice is silly. I am simply calling it how I see it.

[phrodo]

I took your advise and just read all of Gnoory's posts... none of them can be construed as lies or anything like the shit some of you are claiming. It looks to me like he is simply defending himself against a crowd hoping to win brownie points with Art. He has been nothing but civil in this forum as far as I can tell. That is something that cannot be said for Onan. I think a lot of you are mean spirited and enjoy being on a team of anonymous  brownie point winners. It is my suggestion that you leave the war to Art and Gnoory, but I think you guys are enjoying yourselves too much to let that happen. I also suggest that some of you go back and read all of his posts. Then go read all of Onan's
I am not at all picking a team here. That kind of choice is silly. I am simply calling it how I see it.

Jorch says he emailed Art at that mindspring addy - Art says he never got an email. Who do you think is lying? Jorch says the mindspring addy is the only one he has for Art after several folks post artbell@artbell.com ... apparently you think he's too stupid to figure that out... but not lying. Last night's guests say they were bribed with an extra hour IF they cancelled DM -- Jorch says they were just plain cancelled because it was too close (for comfort?) ... so apparently you think the Ghostbuster Gals were lying? And apparently a guest's visit is only "too close" if they are on DM first... and cannot be coerced into appearing on C2C first... so "close" only goes one way??

[onan]

I took your advise and just read all of Gnoory's posts... none of them can be construed as lies or anything like the shit some of you are claiming. It looks to me like he is simply defending himself against a crowd hoping to win brownie points with Art. He has been nothing but civil in this forum as far as I can tell. That is something that cannot be said for Onan. I think a lot of you are mean spirited and enjoy being on a team of anonymous  brownie point winners. It is my suggestion that you leave the war to Art and Gnoory, but I think you guys are enjoying yourselves too much to let that happen. I also suggest that some of you go back and read all of his posts. Then go read all of Onan's
I am not at all picking a team here. That kind of choice is silly. I am simply calling it how I see it.

I suppose I could have used some restraint. But I didn't. If your goal is to complain about my posts, knock yourself out.

Yeah reading through noory's posts without the context must be confusing or at least hard to follow. Lucky for me I don't owe you an explanation.

In the recent past, you took me to task and called me a pussy if I remember correctly, and I was doing nothing more than explaining a point of view that was totally focused on concern for MV. But I am too rude for you. You can put me on ignore.

Now I am confrontational, at least by your standards... again knock yourself out.

[guildnavigator]

I took your advise and just read all of Gnoory's posts... none of them can be construed as lies or anything like the shit some of you are claiming. It looks to me like he is simply defending himself against a crowd hoping to win brownie points with Art. He has been nothing but civil in this forum as far as I can tell. That is something that cannot be said for Onan. I think a lot of you are mean spirited and enjoy being on a team of anonymous  brownie point winners. It is my suggestion that you leave the war to Art and Gnoory, but I think you guys are enjoying yourselves too much to let that happen. I also suggest that some of you go back and read all of his posts. Then go read all of Onan's. You will see a very clear picture.
I am not at all picking a team here. That kind of choice is silly. I am simply calling it how I see it.

I don't know man, I remember YOU saying shit like "George Snoory shows should be illegal" and then George shows up and all of the sudden you are calling people out for exactly what you did. It seems like the only one acting differently is you. How are we going to get "brownie points" with Art? He's not posting in this thread, Noory is. Like I said, this place was http://www.georgenoorysucks.com before it was BellGab. Did you realize that? What did you expect when George Noory shows up at http://www.georgenoorysucks.com? Its pretty lame to talk shit about a person and then jump fences when the person shows up. And then you accuse US of ass-kissing? I disagree with you heavily about this.

[bateman]

I took your advise and just read all of Gnoory's posts... none of them can be construed as lies or anything like the shit some of you are claiming. It looks to me like he is simply defending himself against a crowd hoping to win brownie points with Art. He has been nothing but civil in this forum as far as I can tell. That is something that cannot be said for Onan. I think a lot of you are mean spirited and enjoy being on a team of anonymous  brownie point winners. It is my suggestion that you leave the war to Art and Gnoory, but I think you guys are enjoying yourselves too much to let that happen. I also suggest that some of you go back and read all of his posts. Then go read all of Onan's. You will see a very clear picture.
I am not at all picking a team here. That kind of choice is silly. I am simply calling it how I see it.

There is a disconnect between what he says & what he does.

[zeebo]

Hey I am cool with coming down on the guy and I don't at all agree with some of the antics you speak of but I was genuinely feeling sorry for the guy and I truly hope they can fix it instead of have this soap opera going on is all.

I'm with you widespread.  I just can't bring myself to despise ol' Noory as evil incarnate like some here seem to.  There are some public figures that truly rouse my ire, but for whatever reason he's not one of them.  Surely he's flawed and has done some highly questionable things, but I still think of him as a relatively decent human and do find myself feeling kinda bad for him sometimes, especially with some of the rather crudely-put insults some here have hurled his way.

I still however lament what's happened to c2c under his tenure, and very much enjoy mocking him with good-natured satire.  Some of the sarcasm in the GNS thread is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read online.  And he just seems to bring it on himself.  His goofy statements and actions are the gifts that keep on giving.

[widespread1]

I suppose I could have used some restraint. But I didn't. If your goal is to complain about my posts, knock yourself out.

Yeah reading through noory's posts without the context must be confusing or at least hard to follow. Lucky for me I don't owe you an explanation.

In the recent past, you took me to task and called me a pussy if I remember correctly, and I was doing nothing more than explaining a point of view that was totally focused on concern for MV. But I am too rude for you. You can put me on ignore.

Now I am confrontational, at least by your standards... again knock yourself out.

I never called anyone a pussy Onan... I did call you a weenie and then apoligized right after. I believe that you showma serious lack of tact when it comes to your posts here. Im not talking only about the ones to gnoory neither. Contrary to what a lot of people here say about you, you are extremely confrontational.

[widespread1]

I don't know man, I remember YOU saying shit like "George Snoory shows should be illegal" and then George shows up and all of the sudden you are calling people out for exactly what you did. It seems like the only one acting differently is you. How are we going to get "brownie points" with Art? He's not posting in this thread, Noory is. Like I said, this place was http://www.georgenoorysucks.com before it was BellGab. Did you realize that? What did you expect when George Noory shows up at http://www.georgenoorysucks.com? Its pretty lame to talk shit about a person and then jump fences when the person shows up. And then you accuse US of ass-kissing? I disagree with you heavily about this.

You are mistaking. I have never once said anything about Gnoory man. So you are wrong about the double standard.
You see most of you are guilty of making shit up and jumping to conclusions.

[widespread1]

I'm with you widespread.  I just can't bring myself to despise ol' Noory as evil incarnate like some here seem to.  There are some public figures that truly rouse my ire, but for whatever reason he's not one of them.  Surely he's flawed and has done some highly questionable things, but I still think of him as a relatively decent human and do find myself feeling kinda bad for him sometimes, especially with some of the rather crudely-put insults some here have hurled his way.

I still however lament what's happened to c2c under his tenure, and very much enjoy mocking him with good-natured satire.  Some of the sarcasm in the GNS thread is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read online.  And he just seems to bring it on himself.  His goofy statements and actions are the gifts that keep on giving.

Truth Zeebo

[widespread1]

There is a disconnect between what he says & what he does.

There is a disconnect between his conduct here and what you guys are accusimg him of.

[bateman]

There is a disconnect between his conduct here and what you guys are accusimg him of.

Because he plays the "who me?" bullshit when we know damn well he's screwing around behind the scenes trying to sabotage Art's show. This isn't a conclusion we even came to on our own, this is something Art & his guests brought up! Let me ask you this: are they lying or is Jorch? Because it's one or the other.

[lonevoice]

THIS is how Dave Noorie trolls BellGab. 

Dave gets exposed for having Oates as a guest on C2C one week before the launch of Dark Matter?  Oates, a guy who went to great lengths to publicly accuse Art Bell of having been arrested as a pedophile?  Oates, a guy who Art spent years of his life and $$$ pursuing through the legal system?    That calls for PremRat damage control, so Dave comes here, to BellGab, and gets the members of this forum angry and accusatory towards EACH OTHER, rather than talking about him. 

Dave gets exposed for blackmailing the ghost buster ladies?   This calls for PremRat damage control, so Dave comes here, to BellGab, and gets the members of this forum fighting with each other, instead of talking about what a douche he is. 

If it works every time, and it has, why would he stop doing it?

[coaster]

I tried to listen to the show just now. I got about five minutes into it and had to stop listening. The woman's voice and constant laughing was annoying.

[bateman]

THIS is how Dave Noorie trolls BellGab. 

Dave gets exposed for having Oates as a guest on C2C one week before the launch of Dark Matter?  Oates, a guy who went to great lengths to publicly accuse Art Bell of having been arrested as a pedophile?  Oates, a guy who Art spent years of his life and $$$ pursuing through the legal system?    That calls for PremRat damage control, so Dave comes here, to BellGab, and gets the members of this forum angry and accusatory towards EACH OTHER, rather than talking about him. 

Dave gets exposed for blackmailing the ghost buster ladies?   This calls for PremRat damage control, so Dave comes here, to BellGab, and gets the members of this forum fighting with each other, instead of talking about what a douche he is. 

If it works every time, and it has, why would he stop doing it?

I don't think it works on most of us, because we've seen the "disconnect" firsthand. We get aggravated with the other side because they buy into the "nice guy" BS when his actions absolutely do not substantiate.

[phrodo]

There is a disconnect between his conduct here and what you guys are accusimg him of.

I notice you didn't address the points I made in response to your allegations... nice cherrypicking there.

[lonevoice]

I don't think it works on most of us, because we've seen the "disconnect" firsthand. We get aggravated with the other side because they buy into the "nice guy" BS when his actions absolutely do not substantiate.

It only takes a few who can be persuaded by a Dave appearance into defending poor victimized Dave from his vicious critics.  Now we'll have pages of in-fighting between members, as opposed to pages of talking about how badly GNS as a result of Art exposing him for the cruel, petty, pathetic moron he is.   Even if the majority here just get pissed off when Noory shows up, it works for him every time.  Because now we're talking about each other and not about him.   It's stereotypical internet trolling for a reason...because it's effective.

[onan]

Widespread my apologies for accusing you of something you didn't do. I will have to search for the quote and the person I am confusing you with.

[onan]

It only takes a few who can be persuaded by a Dave appearance into defending poor victimized Dave from his vicious critics.  Now we'll have pages of in-fighting between members, as opposed to pages of talking about how badly GNS as a result of Art exposing him for the cruel, petty, pathetic moron he is.   Even if the majority here just get pissed off when Noory shows up, it works for him every time.  Because now we're talking about each other and not about him.   It's stereotypical internet trolling for a reason...because it's effective.

Look at older forums that took noory to heart. Where are they now? I am not saying noory is evil incarnate. I do think he is a splitter.

[Nighthawk]

I used to cut George some slack when I first came to this forum. However now after all these incidents that I KNOW are NOT coincidental I have a total different view. I have lost the little bit of respect I had for the guy. I just can not accept his playing dumb role. He has violated one of my radio hero's. It is unacceptable. People can deny it all they want, but that bunch at C2C headquarters is playing games. It is obvious. Perhaps they could come out and admit it, then offer an apology? That sounds like the only possible way out at this point. However I really do not think they will. Too slimy to do that. Art even asked his guests last night to explain what happened in their OWN words. Pretty obvious here folks.

BTW: these are only the incidents that are public that we know about. I am sure if there are these incidents there are likely many more that we and even Art do not know about. Who knows what the C2C crews have been saying to guests and amongst themselves behind closed doors.

[ziznak]

Because he plays the "who me?" bullshit when we know damn well he's screwing around behind the scenes trying to sabotage Art's show. This isn't a conclusion we even came to on our own, this is something Art & his guests brought up! Let me ask you this: are they lying or is Jorch? Because it's one or the other.

I really felt for a long time that jorch was just a nice guy that was just too stupid to see what he's doing... I've made fun of him but I coudlnt say I hated the man.  Once, he started posting here thats changed quite a bit.  "who me?" BS is right.  He's giggling to himself when he sees any impact he can make here. 

Onan nailed it last night.  The man is a KOOOOOONT

[guildnavigator]

You are mistaking. I have never once said anything about Gnoory man. So you are wrong about the double standard.
You see most of you are guilty of making shit up and jumping to conclusions.

Oh, really? I'm making shit up?

I am so down, But only if you are aware that I will notify the authorities of any illegal activity. (Running Stop signs, Smoking of weed, Streaming of George Snoory show or any other thing of the sort that is illegal) and yes I will have a current updated book of all things illegal.)

oh by the way did you know that selling lemonade is illegal?

Well there's a quote of you saying it, and here's the conclusion I am jumping to: you can take your shitty box of tapes and go FUCK YOURSELF.

[widespread1]

Oh, really? I'm making shit up?

Well here's a quote of you saying it, and here's the conclusion I am jumping to: you can take your shitty box of tapes and go FUCK YOURSELF.

Wow now that was in a sarcasm context and not at all what you are accusing me of saying. Go read the thread and find out for yourself that yes you do indeed make shit up.
I am sorry you dont appreciate the tapes.
Oh by the way Im a huge Frank Herbert fan.

[guildnavigator]

Wow now that was in a sarcasm context and not at all what you accused me of saying. Go read the thread.
I am sorry you dont appreciate the tapes.
Oh by the way Im a huge Frank Herbert fan.

OH you are a Frank Herbert fan?? Then I guess it's OK for you to call me an ass-kissing liar! And a drunken twenty year old! OH and YOU must be right about never having used the phrase "George Snoory" too! The message board must be magically rearranging your words or something! OH FRANK HERBERT!

FUCK THAT.

[WildCard]

Posted before his last six "comments about it".

Ill refrain from anymore comments about it.

Who does that remind me of?

Congratulations, Dave "Troll" Snoory. Mission accomplished.

I already posted this to GNS but,
http://artbell.com/coincidence-turns-into-ultimatum/

[widespread1]

OH you are a Frank Herbert fan?? Then I guess it's OK for you to call me an ass-kissing liar! And a drunken twenty year old! OH and YOU must be right about never having used the phrase "George Snoory" too! The message board must be magically rearranging your words or something! OH FRANK HERBERT!

FUCK THAT.

I happen to think that the term snoory is rather funny when referring to his shows because they have become a little boring however you are clearly not seeing the context it was written in.
I have never called anyone an ass kissing liar. As for the drunken 20 year old part, I would consider myself amongst that crowd.
So yes again you are making shit up dude.

[popple]

It looks to me like he is simply defending himself against a crowd hoping to win brownie points with Art.

I don't even know why he came to our "beehive" over and over again. He said he was never coming back last month after the Oats stuff. And he told MV to delete his account! Maybe MV should delete Gnoory's account for his own good. He seems to have a problem with not being able to leave & stay gone. He causes more and more problems for himself.

Why doesn't he go tell "the other side" on the official c2c facebook, instead of coming here? He knows what to expect when he posts here after everything, & I don't feel sorry for him. But he loves to make himself look like a victim.

[widespread1]

Posted before his last six "comments about it".Who does that remind me of?

Congratulations, Dave "Troll" Snoory. Mission accomplished.

I already posted this to GNS but,
http://artbell.com/coincidence-turns-into-ultimatum/

Congradulations on finding a team.