Art Bell

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Let's all be reasonable here. If the same or similiar accusations made against Art and his family were made against MV and his family that person would be banned and posts removed.

If I can speak freely, MV sounded a little butt-hurt that it was Art (not Keith) that had the spec-sheet removed from the DMDN. (listen to the latest Gabcast) A little moderation has been needed this past month but I'm not surprised anything happened.

For those of you that are shocked and upset with Art....wow, unbelievable.

Hmm... I was about to test that theory by writing ten similar rumors about MV that have been spread on the internet about Art to see if I got banned. But maybe I shouldn't throw napalm on the fire as people seem to be calming down.

[chefist]

Yes, Chefist.  Sadly, so much of it is from the perspective of "how NOT to do things."

[3OctaveFart]

Has Art yet managed to Catch the Stalker, after he Vanquishes the Rebellion of the Troll's?

I love his random capitalization of "key" nouns and predicates - more unintended dramatics on his part.

[coaster]

bellgab  " the pit of vipers"

That screenshot makes me cringe. Another example of the facebook mentality. Just because someone has listened to Art for years doesn't mean that he is their friend. If he wouldn't recognize you on the street, he is in fact a stranger to you. Not a friend. I've said it before.. People need to fucking unplug. If you take any of this "Art Versus The Internet" bullshit personally, or think you are best buds with a guy who lives in the desert because you heard his voice on the radio, it's time to emerge from your basements and get some fresh air.
Also, Art threatening to sue MV because he won't ban someone is laughable. Jesus on the toilet Art, go outside for awhile. Take my advice. Fresh air. And you know you can trust my advice. We are best friends because I heard you on the radio.
/derpitydo

[munbeam666]

MV, I have your back.

..and I as well.

[GravitySucks]

Hmmmm

[sydtron]

Cunt nundrum

[GravitySucks]

Cunt nundrum

So you think you are one of those cunning linguists?

[starrmtn001]

So you think you are one of those cunning linguists?

[RealCool Daddio]

I’m not a fan of lynch mobs or band wagons, and I’m not going to line up to praise MV or anyone else.

I think that sometimes you have to put on your “big boy pants” and grok that when bad things happens, usually everyone involved shares some of the blame.

The recent blowback actually has nothing to do with Art Bell going off the air after the recent stalker incidents at his home.  If that’s all that had happened, the vast majority of his fans would’ve expressed concern and patience through this.  The blowback he’s received is a cumulative frustration over his previous departures from hosting his shows.  And that’s unfortunate, because his decision to take a hiatus while his family feels imperiled isn’t a valid reason to burn his house down, and in fact, he deserved some measure of compassion and support after being stalked and apparently even intimidated by gun shots at his home.  I don’t think that anyone would’ve expected the intense animosity that he’s been subjected to since his latest departure under these conditions, least of all Art, so it must’ve struck him as a miserable shock delivered at an already terrible time.

MV, your position when the blowback started was very passive aggressive â€" perhaps because you felt personally disappointed by Art’s latest announcement to depart the show, I don’t know, but you chose to sit back and let slip the dogs of war.  Inaction is an action; some of the blame for what has happened since rests upon your shoulders.

A lot of really horrific stuff has been said around here lately.  Innocent people have been dragged into it.  And some of the worst types of people on the planet have basked in the vile atmosphere here.  Art shares some of the blame for that, because his fans have been remarkably loyal and supportive for a long time, and his history of retirements makes many of them feel disposable if not outright betrayed.  But MV also shares some of the blame for leaning back and watching “THE Art Bell Fan Forum” turn into a cesspool of rage directed not only at Art, but also at Heather, and even invoking his most painful and totally unrelated personal experiences involving his family.

I don’t condone Art’s roundabout and conditional threat of legal action, but I understand it.  Many of Art’s fans feel betrayed by his long history of sudden “retirements,” and I understand that.  But imagine how he must feel reading through the hundreds of pages of hateful and often way over the top attacks against him.  He saw this place as a prickly but “vaguely lovable” source of support and a certain level of camaraderie.  Image how he must’ve felt watching this namesake site turned into a shooting gallery against him, where no blow is considered too low.  With my home and career in ruins, an unknown gunman on the loose, and my last refuge for a friendly social media fix turned viciously against me, I’d probably be looking for a way to grab hold of a reign as well.

So I won’t be raising any torches, or raising any glasses, to anyone tonight.

You know, if you posted this kind of plea for decency in the George sucks thread, or the Falkie thread, I might buy a bit of what you are peddling.  If you had the guts to go after (Redacted) for some of the things she posted about Noory, for instance.  But nope, it only seems to matter when Art is the victim - everyone else is fair game, but Art needs his balls gently cupped or he can't broadcast anymore?  Gimme a fucking break.

[RealCool Daddio]

lol he has now posted this link after a post about football

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bile-venom-and-lies-how-i-was-trolled-on-the-internet/2016/01/14/62207a2c-baf8-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html

Yes, the two situations are exactly the same.  Not a single difference between these events and what happened to Art.  Not one.  Nope, not a single difference.  How could I have been so blind?

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

Let's all be reasonable here. If the same or similiar accusations made against Art and his family were made against MV and his family that person would be banned and posts removed.

MV never had a stalker, he's sleeping with IngloriousBitch, and looks bizarre without a mustache.

[chefist]

You know, if you posted this kind of plea for decency in the George sucks thread, or the Falkie thread, I might buy a bit of what you are peddling.  If you had the guts to go after (Redacted) for some of the things she posted about Noory, for instance.  But nope, it only seems to matter when Art is the victim - everyone else is fair game, but Art needs his balls gently cupped or he can't broadcast anymore?  Gimme a fucking break.

Yea...egos and primadonnas...seems clichéd but so true in this case...

[chefist]

MV never had a stalker, he's sleeping with IngloriousBitch, and looks bizarre without a mustache.

I thought he was sleeping with Barfly?

[trostol]

I thought he was sleeping with Barfly?

maybe better would be the list who MV isn't sleeping with

[chefist]

maybe better would be the listg who MV isn't sleeping with

Oh do tell!

[SredniVashtar]

MV never had a stalker, he's sleeping with IngloriousBitch, and looks bizarre without a mustache.

I can confirm that allegation at least. She sent me the pictures.

[jazmunda]

maybe better would be the list who MV isn't sleeping with

I'd like to see MV sleep with all these people without Viagra. Raise MV. 

[Inglorious Bitch]

he's sleeping with IngloriousBitch

Hey how do you think I was able to get on all those Gabcasts?

[SredniVashtar]

Hey how do you think I was able to get on all those Gabcasts?

Not only did you suck on the Gabcasts, it was your sucking ability that got you the gig at the audition.

[GravitySucks]

maybe better would be the list who MV isn't sleeping with

Not me

[chefist]

Hey how do you think I was able to get on all those Gabcasts?

MV's casting couch...

[GravitySucks]

Not only did you suck on the Gabcasts, it was your sucking ability that got you the gig at the audition.

That's not true and you know it. It was that other thing.

[Inglorious Bitch]

maybe better would be the list who MV isn't sleeping with

You sound a little butthurt that he didn't respond to your wide stance at the airport bathroom. MV's not a cheap floozie. He likes to be wined and dined.

[chefist]

I'd like to see MV sleep with all these people without Viagra. Raise MV.

Good to see you back and posting, Jaz...we thought you left us for 4chan or Coast Insiders...;-)

[RealCool Daddio]

MV's casting couch...

[The King of Kings]

Not surprising to me that Art would be interested in this article. It has sentiment in there I see echoed a lot among older "celebrities" in the alternative talk industry who blindly value accountability, but fail to see the self censoring effect that posting under your own name has.

It doesn't just stop one from being rude or cussing, it'll stop people from expressing political opinions that are currently "wrong" also. Or prevent just telling the truth in front of a hostile audience that could easily stalk them and make their lives miserable.  That's why Facebook is a boring echo chamber that requires much less effort for to moderate, and thus a preferred and easily controllable environment for people in the public spotlight.

Getting trolled is a consensual act, Art. You participate by giving ammunition, responding, and not being sophisticated enough to recognize it, roll with it, or give it back.

Art is the king of bullshit.

Art doesn't really care about trolls, unless they are aimed at him.

Let's never forget that Art hired Queen Troll Heather Wade to produce his show and then as host to fill in for him on his show.

[Donald Noory]

That set of photos are the greatest. The best thing about them is that Noory and Tommy were ring ins.

That's not from a parade. That's just Jorch and Tommy taking a break from the studio and driving down to Chipotle for dinner. They always drive around like that, leaving bemused people standing on street corners muttering, "Who's the bewigged douche with the fat guy?"

[ItsOver]

Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, Rose Parade, eat your heart out.  "Driver!  On to the next 7-Eleven.  I MUST have my turkee on whole wheat sammich!"

[chefist]

The graffiti makes that so perfect...