Art Bell

[WhiteCrow]

Sounds good to me.

Vegas Baby.. We'll invite Mr. Bell too

[DeltaBravo]

That fucker owes me.

[Danger!UFO]

Nothing.

[WOTR]

poor hamtaro

I am almost positive that something is wrong with that .gif.  I would swear that for the hamster to be running forward, the wheel would be turning clockwise.  I believe that when the wheel "catches" it, the wheel takes and throws him as though it is turning counterclockwise.  Maybe my eyes deceive me.

[Faustina]

I agree with all of this but I have one big caution in terms of expectations. It's nice that so many people are getting a chance to be podcasters and a portion have some degree of talent. But the sheer number of podcasts out there, even with a forum or a "TV Guide" to sort them out, threatens to bury any emerging talent in a sea of voices, streams and MP3s.

Individual listeners only have so much time to listen to the radio or podcasts. The old paradigm, where broadcast stations and networks sought out and promoted talented people, was a more practical mechanism for bringing more and better radio talent to more listeners. Yes, corporate interests and marketers have hurt both AM and FM radio content, but I don't think that opening up the podcast floodgates is necessarily the answer to finding more Art Bells.

I have listened to more AM radio since Art left and found that there are some intelligent, enjoyable shows out there, even in syndication. It's not all Rush and Hannity. Let's not just write off conventional radio and put all of our attention on Internet alternatives.

So agree.  There have been a flood of sub-par podcasts hitting the interwaves over the past several years:  it can be a hugely time-consuming chore to find the ones that are truly worth listening to.  That's what I was sort of hoping this board could provide:  people posting their opinions when they find a good podcast and with as much detail as possible.  The forum has already done so to some degree, but I think it could serve that service even more so and that it would if that ends up becoming its main focus. MV will have to decide upon "all that," being the owner, but I would like to officially put in my .10 cents that I think it would be a great move for the forum as its new focus.  It would retain the spirit by which the board was started, just expanding its horizons far further out than just Art Bell and his doings (which I think we're all pretty disenchanted with).

I would love to find a show on terrestrial radio that I enjoy.  I haven't found very many:  Clyde Lewis primarily, who is on KXL Portland as well as syndicated, and Darkness Radio, which airs on a station in Minneapolis as well as online and archived (I view it more as a radio show than just a podcast).  I will listen to c2c when it has an interesting guest or when one of the good weekend hosts is hosting (like Dave Schrader tonight).

[UnscreenedCaller]

MV, if  you're reading along, I don't say much but this lawsuit bullshit drew me out just so I can say screw Art. If  he can boast on air about being thick skinned and then turn around and threaten this forum because he read something on the internet he didn't like, then it's time to shut his laptop down and take his family to a movie or watch tv on the sofa with the blinds shut because the internet is filled with shit none of us like at one time or another. Threatening you is a dick move, considering everything you and members of this forum did TWICE when he made comebacks.

On the other hand I have to laugh only because the last time he was seeking legal advice, it was from a poster on one of the threads since he was apparently not willing to consult a lawyer in a brick building with a diploma on the wall. Better call Saul.

[trostol]

I am almost positive that something is wrong with that .gif.  I would swear that for the hamster to be running forward, the wheel would be turning clockwise.  I believe that when the wheel "catches" it, the wheel takes and throws him as though it is turning counterclockwise.  Maybe my eyes deceive me.

you are correct on that...but it still kinda hilarious lol

[UnscreenedCaller]

I would love to find a show on terrestrial radio that I enjoy.  I haven't found very many:  Clyde Lewis primarily, who is on KXL Portland as well as syndicated, and Darkness Radio, which airs on a station in Minneapolis as well as online and archived (I view it more as a radio show than just a podcast).  I will listen to c2c when it has an interesting guest or when one of the good weekend hosts is hosting (like Dave Schrader tonight).

I'm liking Dave Schrader  more and more with every show I hear, so I'm looking forward to tonight's show. He has a pretty extensive archive on youtube and you don't have to turn anyone in for uploading.  :

[albrecht]

MV, if  you're reading along, I don't say much but this lawsuit bullshit drew me out just so I can say screw Art. If  he can boast on air about being thick skinned and then turn around and threaten this forum because he read something on the internet he didn't like, then it's time to shut his laptop down and take his family to a movie or watch tv on the sofa with the blinds shut because the internet is filled with shit none of us like at one time or another. Threatening you is a dick move, considering everything you and members of this forum did TWICE when he made comebacks.

On the other hand I have to laugh only because the last time he was seeking legal advice, it was from a poster on one of the threads since he was apparently not willing to consult a lawyer in a brick building with a diploma on the wall. Better call Saul.

During all the hand-wringing and bitching about "no compete" and "internet music" he had some lawyer on the network and, I think, as his producer. "Dr. J" I think? And now with this, apparent, claim to sue? I love Art and wish him and his family the best but for a guy who has decades of experience in many businesses and 'stuff' I wonder why he doesn't have an attorney who can explain stuff. "Non-competes" are, often, easily broken (or not enforced.) The internet music stuff is, admittedly, an on-going issue (esp with TPP coming) but still. And libel is a very difficult thing (or just costly) to win. (I know he has won before but not sure how much he got from it and even then it was against the people, not WWCR (I think.) So a claim against MV would be ridiculous (I'm not a lawyer so just expressing a layman's opinion. Do not take for legal advice) and he would have to go after some internet poster....for what damages (or, better stated if I was a lawyer, recoverable damages?)

[Fields_of_Tron]

Going back through the last few pages of this thread is the reason why I love having the ability not feel like I have to comment on every reply I read and just walk outside...have a nice Black & Tan with a few vapes of Original Haze and my day is right.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, yeah that sounds good.  I like the trippy stuff, not those west coast hybrids that put you to sleep....bleh

[ACE of CLUBS]

Sounds good to me.

Is your avatar a recent photo of you MV ?
Looks good to me !

Praise to MV

[ACE of CLUBS]

Art Bell once 'owned' the night ....... cool, spooky, enthralling .....

How far we've come from those days ..... much older, jaded, cynical .....
What a sad end to a once great show/host ......
Drama, fabrications, threats, whining, pending lawsuits ....
Now a foolish old man ..... caught up in his own drama ....

In the end ........ George 'got it' ....
George ate Art and now spits the bones out.
Hail the 'King Rat' ...... he knows how to survive ...

Change the name back to George Noory Sucks ....

[MV/Liberace!]

Is your avatar a recent photo of you MV ?
Looks good to me !

Praise to MV

From ten years ago.

Today:

[Faustina]

I'm liking Dave Schrader  more and more with every show I hear, so I'm looking forward to tonight's show. He has a pretty extensive archive on youtube and you don't have to turn anyone in for uploading.  :

He's a good interviewer:  asks very thoughtful questions and tries to lead the guest into unfolding their story in a way that makes for exciting listening.  He'll ditch a guest too, if they're not meeting him halfway in getting the story across to the listeners, as he did last week (and it was a wise decision).  He had a couple of guests on who were supposed to talk about a haunting, and all they wanted to talk about was fundraising for their project to renovate the supposed haunted location.

Nice guy, and genuinely into the paranormal and twisted crime (the other topic Darkness Radio covers).  He does ghost investigations in his spare time, as you may be aware.

[ACE of CLUBS]

That sparkle in the eye ....
Sly little smile .....

[Gumby, Dammit]

Art Bell once 'owned' the night ....... cool, spooky, enthralling .....

How far we've come from those days ..... much older, jaded, cynical .....
What a sad end to a once great show/host ......
Drama, fabrications, threats, whining, pending lawsuits ....
Now a foolish old man ..... caught up in his own drama ....

In the end ........ George 'got it' ....
George ate Art and now spits the bones out.
Hail the 'King Rat' ...... he knows how to survive ...

Change the name back to George Noory Sucks ....

^ Fucking so much THIS ^

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

From ten years ago.

Today:

. Good Lord! He looks like about half the women I see doing aquarobics at the life care complex where my mom lives!

[trostol]

He's a good interviewer:  asks very thoughtful questions and tries to lead the guest into unfolding their story in a way that makes for exciting listening.  He'll ditch a guest too, if they're not meeting him halfway in getting the story across to the listeners, as he did last week (and it was a wise decision).  He had a couple of guests on who were supposed to talk about a haunting, and all they wanted to talk about was fundraising for their project to renovate the supposed haunted location.

Nice guy, and genuinely into the paranormal and twisted crime (the other topic Darkness Radio covers).  He does ghost investigations in his spare time, as you may be aware.

did he ever go to that ladies house about the bigfoot or something

[Shaz]

    I suggested to MV privately that "Bellgab" could simply expand the definition of "Bell" beyond "Art" Bell to perhaps infer the "Liberty" Bell... BellGab, where free speech rings, like it or not.
   I would suggest the attached public domain image (or a great new derivative) as a logo. He did not hate the idea. What do you think gabbers? Can free speech be "vaguely lovable" enough?

Source: http://public-domain.zorger.com/samantha-at-the-worlds-fair/cartoon-shocked-face-on-cracked-liberty-bell-embarrassed-some-one-saw-your-crack-pen-ink-drawing.php

Shaz

[albrecht]

did he ever go to that ladies house about the bigfoot or something

Last I heard there was some issue on her part and he, and whatever team he had in mind, were unable to do so. I forget the details but, you know. I like him, bland but nice, like Minnesota. He doesn't like much on the religious or crazy side though and will drop guests/callers. Which is fine sometimes. But I rather liked Ian who would 'doom' them, when warranted, with his knowledge of stuff. But he is not a Norry who will just "that's true" and "of course" to callers and guests with even contradictory stories, comments, theories, or rants. I'm not a big fan of true crime, as he does it. Seems, a bit, prurient or 'too' interested but he is a good host.
ps: his show with "Fire In the Brain" lady was the one of the best radio shows I ever heard. Epic. Seriously good. I've heard her on NPR etc and not NEARLY as good as he did. He deserved an Emmy (or whatever radio stuff is called.) Great. He was interested. Allowed her to tell the story. The story was awesome (in all sense of the word.) And maneuvered the interview so it was as chilling and scary as the real events.

[trostol]

Last I heard there was some issue on her part and he, and whatever team he had in mind, were unable to do so. I forget the details but, you know. I like him, bland but nice, like Minnesota. He doesn't like much on the religious or crazy side though and will drop guests/callers. Which is fine sometimes. But I rather liked Ian who would 'doom' them, when warranted, with his knowledge of stuff. But he is not a Norry who will just "that's true" and "of course" to callers and guests with even contradictory stories, comments, theories, or rants. I'm not a big fan of true crime, as he does it. Seems, a bit, prurient or 'too' interested but he is a good host.

ahh..a shame

he isnt bad..at least on C2C..the few times i tried listening to him on his own show it seemed a lot of..weird giddiness going on..a lot of laughing going on

[albrecht]

ahh..a shame

he isnt bad..at least on C2C..the few times i tried listening to him on his own show it seemed a lot of..weird giddiness going on..a lot of laughing going on

My rant went on too long. Look up his C2C with "Fire in the Brain" gal. Best radio interview I've ever heard I think. Of course, the story but he handled it amazingly well. Deserves an Emmy (or whatever it is called in radio. Marconi?) Seriously, listen to it.

[Sean92008]

ahh..a shame

he isnt bad..at least on C2C..the few times i tried listening to him on his own show it seemed a lot of..weird giddiness going on..a lot of laughing going on

I tried listening to him on Coast (back in May-June 2015?) and it was like a church service.  Weeks later, heard him take the same tact again and that was it for me.

[Uncle Duke]

Last I heard there was some issue on her part and he, and whatever team he had in mind, were unable to do so. I forget the details but, you know. I like him, bland but nice, like Minnesota. He doesn't like much on the religious or crazy side though and will drop guests/callers. Which is fine sometimes. But I rather liked Ian who would 'doom' them, when warranted, with his knowledge of stuff. But he is not a Norry who will just "that's true" and "of course" to callers and guests with even contradictory stories, comments, theories, or rants. I'm not a big fan of true crime, as he does it. Seems, a bit, prurient or 'too' interested but he is a good host.
ps: his show with "Fire In the Brain" lady was the one of the best radio shows I ever heard. Epic. Seriously good. I've heard her on NPR etc and not NEARLY as good as he did. He deserved an Emmy (or whatever radio stuff is called.) Great. He was interested. Allowed her to tell the story. The story was awesome (in all sense of the word.) And maneuvered the interview so it was as chilling and scary as the real events.

He answered that question on his "other C2C hosts" thread back a few months ago.  As I recall it wasn't clear if the "issue" was with the gal he interviewed or with getting his team together to do the investigation.  I remember the interview, I put the gal maybe a couple pegs above the bigfoot Texas nut job gal interviewed on MITD, so I would not be surprised if this gal backed down when she realized Schrader was serious about coming to her place.

[Value Of Pi]

So agree.  There have been a flood of sub-par podcasts hitting the interwaves over the past several years:  it can be a hugely time-consuming chore to find the ones that are truly worth listening to.  That's what I was sort of hoping this board could provide:  people posting their opinions when they find a good podcast and with as much detail as possible.  The forum has already done so to some degree, but I think it could serve that service even more so and that it would if that ends up becoming its main focus. MV will have to decide upon "all that," being the owner, but I would like to officially put in my .10 cents that I think it would be a great move for the forum as its new focus.  It would retain the spirit by which the board was started, just expanding its horizons far further out than just Art Bell and his doings (which I think we're all pretty disenchanted with).

I would love to find a show on terrestrial radio that I enjoy.  I haven't found very many:  Clyde Lewis primarily, who is on KXL Portland as well as syndicated, and Darkness Radio, which airs on a station in Minneapolis as well as online and archived (I view it more as a radio show than just a podcast).  I will listen to c2c when it has an interesting guest or when one of the good weekend hosts is hosting (like Dave Schrader tonight).

Neither of these recommendations are paranormal radio, but both are good quality shows worth listening to. They're both available all over the country on AM stations. The John Bachelor Show. which covers a very wide variety of subjects, several interviews each night. And Red Eye radio, http://www.redeyeradioshow.com/red-eye-radio-affiliates/, which is mostly call-in rather than interviews.

[trostol]

He answered that question on his "other C2C hosts" thread back a few months ago.  As I recall it wasn't clear if the "issue" was with the gal he interviewed or with getting his team together to do the investigation.  I remember the interview, I put the gal maybe a couple pegs above the bigfoot Texas nut job gal interviewed on MITD, so I would not be surprised if this gal backed down when she realized Schrader was serious about coming to her place.

that i believe as she did seem..out there lol

[albrecht]

Neither of these recommendations are paranormal radio, but both are good quality shows worth listening to. They're both available all over the country on AM stations. The John Bachelor Show. which covers a very wide variety of subjects, several interviews each night. And Red Eye radio, http://www.redeyeradioshow.com/red-eye-radio-affiliates/, which is mostly call-in rather than interviews.

Granted not paranormal or caller-driven but the great Milt Rosenberg is still making great shows. In his 90's (and often it shows in funny ways with regard to stuff like smartphones/security issues) but a smart guy and still spry and interesting guests and subjects. Hardcore History is also a must listen! Again not caller or paranormal but he does a great show on history (if only teachers in schools had such depth and emotion about it.)
http://feedpress.me/milt-rosenberg
http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/
ps: and lest we forget. www.darkcity.fm Great stuff and, hopefully, less sporadic. But quality over quantity, I appreciate.

[Uncle Duke]

Neither of these recommendations are paranormal radio, but both are good quality shows worth listening to. They're both available all over the country on AM stations. The John Bachelor Show. which covers a very wide variety of subjects, several interviews each night. And Red Eye radio, http://www.redeyeradioshow.com/red-eye-radio-affiliates/, which is mostly call-in rather than interviews.

I also occasionally listen to "Over Night America",  hosted by John Grayson on KMOX out of St. Louis.  The show has a small network of stations in cities like Pittsburgh and Minneapolis, among others. I think most, if not all, are CBS affiliates.  For the most part the show is relatively light with discussions about quirkly news items, and there are weekly scheduled guests from various news and entertainment websites/publications.  Overall not a bad show, enjoy it while driving in the wee hours.

[MV/Liberace!]

    I suggested to MV privately that "Bellgab" could simply expand the definition of "Bell" beyond "Art" Bell to perhaps infer the "Liberty" Bell... BellGab, where free speech rings, like it or not.
   I would suggest the attached public domain image (or a great new derivative) as a logo. He did not hate the idea. What do you think gabbers? Can free speech be "vaguely lovable" enough?

Source: http://public-domain.zorger.com/samantha-at-the-worlds-fair/cartoon-shocked-face-on-cracked-liberty-bell-embarrassed-some-one-saw-your-crack-pen-ink-drawing.php

Shaz

I have referenced this idea a couple of times. It's not bad.

[Chronaut]

I’m not a fan of lynch mobs or band wagons, and I’m not going to line up to praise MV or anyone else.

I think that sometimes you have to put on your “big boy pants” and grok that when bad things happens, usually everyone involved shares some of the blame.

The recent blowback actually has nothing to do with Art Bell going off the air after the recent stalker incidents at his home.  If that’s all that had happened, the vast majority of his fans would’ve expressed concern and patience through this.  The blowback he’s received is a cumulative frustration over his previous departures from hosting his shows.  And that’s unfortunate, because his decision to take a hiatus while his family feels imperiled isn’t a valid reason to burn his house down, and in fact, he deserved some measure of compassion and support after being stalked and apparently even intimidated by gun shots at his home.  I don’t think that anyone would’ve expected the intense animosity that he’s been subjected to since his latest departure under these conditions, least of all Art, so it must’ve struck him as a miserable shock delivered at an already terrible time.

MV, your position when the blowback started was very passive aggressive â€" perhaps because you felt personally disappointed by Art’s latest announcement to depart the show, I don’t know, but you chose to sit back and let slip the dogs of war.  Inaction is an action; some of the blame for what has happened since rests upon your shoulders.

A lot of really horrific stuff has been said around here lately.  Innocent people have been dragged into it.  And some of the worst types of people on the planet have basked in the vile atmosphere here.  Art shares some of the blame for that, because his fans have been remarkably loyal and supportive for a long time, and his history of retirements makes many of them feel disposable if not outright betrayed.  But MV also shares some of the blame for leaning back and watching “THE Art Bell Fan Forum” turn into a cesspool of rage directed not only at Art, but also at Heather, and even invoking his most painful and totally unrelated personal experiences involving his family.

I don’t condone Art’s roundabout and conditional threat of legal action, but I understand it.  Many of Art’s fans feel betrayed by his long history of sudden “retirements,” and I understand that.  But imagine how he must feel reading through the hundreds of pages of hateful and often way over the top attacks against him.  He saw this place as a prickly but “vaguely lovable” source of support and a certain level of camaraderie.  Image how he must’ve felt watching this namesake site turned into a shooting gallery against him, where no blow is considered too low.  With my home and career in ruins, an unknown gunman on the loose, and my last refuge for a friendly social media fix turned viciously against me, I’d probably be looking for a way to grab hold of a reign as well.

So I won’t be raising any torches, or raising any glasses, to anyone tonight.