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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 10:21:45 PM

chefist

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 29, 2015, 12:32:45 PM
No. I have no idea what the situation is, just like everyone else. But if you start claiming to see outlandish things then I think that it is something that is at least worth considering. People tend to feel a familiarity with radio personalities that is entirely unwarranted. I think there are other explanations for all of this that are more likely, but I don't think we can totally rule out mental illness. As some have mentioned, a lot of it doesn't add up, and it is hard to tell what is actually going on under the surface.

Confused... You responded, "no"... Then said we can't rule out mental illness...so then you did mean that was a possibility as you said originally...

chefist

Quote from: cosmic hobo on November 29, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
It's hard to tell which persona of yours is posting in this thread; The gabcast nice English chap or the Falkie thread evil trolling bastard. :P

+1

Agreed

The vitriolic vacuum created by Falkie not posting is infecting all threads... Even Art's...

SredniVashtar

Quote from: cosmic hobo on November 29, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
It's hard to tell which persona of yours is posting in this thread; The gabcast nice English chap or the Falkie thread evil trolling bastard. :P

OK, that made me laugh. Damn you!!  :D

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
The vitriolic vacuum created by Falkie not posting is infecting all threads... Even Art's...

I would actually pay Falkie to start posting again at this very sad point.

ItsOver

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
+1

Agreed

The vitriolic vacuum created by Falkie not posting is infecting all threads... Even Art's...
Ah, yes.  The Falkie black hole did actually serve a worthwhile purpose.

aldousburbank

Over Thansgiving dinner my sister's boyfriend mentioned that he listens to Coast. Although I initially liked the dude, that comment has ruined our relationship forever.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 12:40:35 PM
Confused... You responded, "no"... Then said we can't rule out mental illness...so then you did mean that was a possibility as you said originally...

There are probably three options:

1. He is being threatened by a stalker. It happens, and I can't say it isn't the case here, but you have to wonder why (if it was connected to the shooting a while back) he hasn't at least got his family out of the way for the time being. It is puzzling. Also, it might generate at least a modest mention somewhere in the media, even if he isn't the big-hitter he used to be.

2. For reasons best known to himself, he is making it up. Either to generate excitement/publicity or to position himself for a graceful exit because he has already had enough, but doesn't want to get slaughtered by all of his fans. I think it's far-fetched, but it's at least a possibility.

3. He is paranoid/delusional/insert disorder here. There may have been a shooting incident, but we have no idea whether it was actually intended to intimidate him. He might have been alerted by a neighbour, but we don't know if they are just another nut as well who thinks the Messicans were invading. I have mentioned a couple of the things he claims to have seen lately - if someone said that to me I would question their mental health. But, in Art's case, it may all have been a bit of material for on the air.

I am not claiming Art has bats in his belfry, simply because we don't have enough information to make that claim. But at the very least there is something a bit odd in the way he has presented things so far.

chefist

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 29, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
Over Thansgiving dinner my sister's boyfriend mentioned that he listens to Coast. Although I initially liked the dude, that comment has ruined our relationship forever.

Holidays always remind us of our relatives bad choices in partners...eventually it comes around to us! Lol

chefist

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 29, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
There are probably three options:

1. He is being threatened by a stalker. It happens, and I can't say it isn't the case here, but you have to wonder why (if it was connected to the shooting a while back) he hasn't at least got his family out of the way for the time being. It is puzzling. Also, it might generate at least a modest mention somewhere in the media, even if he isn't the big-hitter he used to be.

2. For reasons best known to himself, he is making it up. Either to generate excitement/publicity or to position himself for a graceful exit because he has already had enough, but doesn't want to get slaughtered by all of his fans. I think it's far-fetched, but it's at least a possibility.

3. He is paranoid/delusional/insert disorder here. There may have been a shooting incident, but we have no idea whether it was actually intended to intimidate him. He might have been alerted by a neighbour, but we don't know if they are just another nut as well who thinks the Messicans were invading. I have mentioned a couple of the things he claims to have seen lately - if someone said that to me I would question their mental health. But, in Art's case, it may all have been a bit of material for on the air.

I am not claiming Art has bats in his belfry, simply because we don't have enough information to make that claim. But at the very least there is something a bit odd in the way he has presented things so far.

You are free to troll whom you wish...

ItsOver

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 29, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
Over Thansgiving dinner my sister's boyfriend mentioned that he listens to Coast. Although I initially liked the dude, that comment has ruined our relationship forever.
He actually listens?  Is it for laughs? Is he a masochist ? Or is he just mentally challenged?

aldousburbank

Quote from: ItsOver on November 29, 2015, 01:13:45 PM
He actually listens?  Is it for laughs? Is he a masochist ? Or is he just mentally challenged?
Yes.

albrecht

I don't expect a radio host not to at least 'inflate' or 'spin' events. I'm listening to Art with Robert Morningsky 1996-07-12 and Art eggs on about a car accident Morningsky had in which someone hit him while jogging at night. Now, I don't even know if the incident happened, but even if it did there could be several, more logical explanations why a car might hit a person and not stop:
1) drunk driver
2) kids on a joyride
3) car thief or criminal having drugs/stolen property in his car
4) the person didn't even notice (if it was a glancing blow) and thought he clipped an animal of some type
5) uninsured driver or driver on suspended license, open warrant, etc.
Also wasn't discussed if Morningsky was wearing reflective material, was he running with or against traffic, running in the middle of the road or on the break-down lane, etc.
But Art jumped, and encouraged, that someone wanted to kill him- even though Morningsky himself said "probably just trying to scare me since a professional would complete the job."
Just throwing it out there that the worst possibility was Art's initial explanation. Not that I'm saying the incidents didn't happen, or that they are scary, but not NECESSARILY all connected or actual targeting of him. Again, it could be.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
You are free to troll whom you wish...

Oh come on, that's a bit low. The invective pitched at Noory isn't trolling? Speculation on alleged events surrounding AB is trolling?

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Segundus on November 29, 2015, 09:20:53 AM
ALternate therapies are sometimes universally helpful, but things like homeopathy really do help some people, and not others, and it seems to depend on something about the person and not the disorder.  There are things we just do not know yet. 

Anyone who gets head congestion, though, should really train themselves to use a neti pot.  God, all those years of suffering could have been alleviated for me.

Snorge uses a neti pot - but he pours it in the wrong orifice so it acts more like an enema.

chefist

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 29, 2015, 01:35:13 PM
Oh come on, that's a bit low. The invective pitched at Noory isn't trolling? Speculation on alleged events surrounding AB is trolling?

Yes...speculation = bullshit

Low? You are the judge of that? Lol

coaster

Oh look, more speculation...

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Yes...speculation = bullshit

Low? You are the judge of that? Lol

Yeah, is that a problem?  ;D

Dyna-X

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 29, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
Over Thansgiving dinner my sister's boyfriend mentioned that he listens to Coast. Although I initially liked the dude, that comment has ruined our relationship forever.

If he also mentioned that he usually just listens to George Knapp's shows you could have said "Welll.. OK, But I'm gonna keep my eye on you, boy!"

chefist

Quote from: coaster on November 29, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
Oh look, more speculation...

Lol...folks who criticize speculation in Art's topics.... Then create their own Art conspiracies....fascinating...

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:45:01 PM
Lol...folks who criticize speculation in Art's topics.... Then create their own Art conspiracies....fascinating...


Critical conspiracy speculation? I like that.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: ItsOver on November 29, 2015, 01:00:32 PM
Ah, yes.  The Falkie black hole did actually serve a worthwhile purpose.

Yes I agree.. Cash Flow

ItsOver

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:45:01 PM
Lol...folks who criticize speculation in Art's topics.... Then create their own Art conspiracies....fascinating...
Art should have LMH on to discuss it.  Linda's uncovered BellGabbers who believe Art may not be Art  or who actually may be Art but he's really a lying or crazy alien or just mentally disturbed.  She can interview someone who believes they saw Art mutilating a cow with a light saber and then creating a GNS crop circle.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
You are free to troll whom you wish...

I see no evidence of trolling.. I have the exact same list as SV.
Art's a big boy and knows nothing in his wacky world is taken on face value.

GravitySucks

Quote from: ItsOver on November 29, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Art should have LMH on to discuss it.  Linda's uncovered BellGabbers who believe Art may not be Art  or who actually may be Art but he's really a lying or crazy alien or just mentally disturbed.  She can interview someone who believes they saw Art mutilating a cow with a light saber and then creating a GNS crop circle.

That has been debunked. It was Darth Sandra.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Yes...speculation = bullshit

Low? You are the judge of that? Lol

Come on Chefist.. you be trolling these Limey bastards..
87.547% of this thread is speculation about ART.

chefist

Quote from: WhiteCrow on November 29, 2015, 02:01:48 PM
I see no evidence of trolling.. I have the exact same list as SV.
Art's a big boy and knows nothing in his wacky world is taken on face value.

Then critics should be big boys too...and know they may be called trolls...the arguments defended Snoorch and criticized Art...how should I respond on the GNS created website...

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: chefist on November 29, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Yes...speculation = bullshit

I don't even think it's speculation rather it's an attempt at creating a deliberately cynical narrative. The same shit they do in that god-forsaken thread of theirs.


chefist

Quote from: WhiteCrow on November 29, 2015, 02:07:04 PM
Come on Chefist.. you be trolling these Limey bastards..
87.547% of this thread is speculation about ART.

They post full page Faulkieske responses...I should shut mouth by now...

chefist

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 29, 2015, 02:09:22 PM
I don't even think it's speculation rather it's an attempt at creating a deliberately cynical narrative. The same shit they do in that god forsaken thread of theirs.

Yup...

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