Art Bell

CornyCrow · August 28, 2015, 04:44:05 PM

I would love to hear a longer interview between Art and Donald Trump. My only wish would be that Donald would take a more sane view of our environmental problems. Just today I read that summer tourism to places like Italy is waning because of the heat.

It's hard for me to understand how people rationalize in favor of the immigration issue. Poorer countries are always going to have economic downturns, it seems, as well as political strife, as well as breeding profusely, adding to the problem. We really have to solve this problem right now. To neglect this issue or allow such immigration for the temporary need for cheap brown labor or votes is just kicking the can into the future, and magnifying the problem.

The 14th Amendment was meant to give citizenship to the children of ex-slaves, people who were already citizens. The issue has never been addressed in the Supreme Court. They, I hope, would rule in favor of the original, and obvious, intent - so there is no need for a change of the Constitution.

sorefinger · August 28, 2015, 04:45:02 PM

There is a reason Art posts notices on Facebook, where there's a degree of civility & family oriented audiences. The last thing Art needs is for new listeners to know he's associated with Belgab, where trash-talking retards use four-letter words and name-call. If I was in Art's place, I'd be totally embarrassed to even mention Belgab. Seriously! He doesn't allow trash talk on his show, so why would he be comfortable with it here, never mind that I recall him succumbing, himself, one time?

GravitySucks · August 28, 2015, 04:45:34 PM

Quote from: Meister_000 on August 28, 2015, 04:31:50 PM
No, we don't know. "Not knowing" involves that pesky fact that "you can't know what you don't know". Americans are by and large so pitifully under-educated they could not possibly have a clue about "what they don't know" and thus could not even have clue about what "perfection" or excellence is, let alone begin making plans to get there. And looking at the clock, I'm thinkin we, and our spawn in particular, and any other creature in our path, are, on account of these facts, in very big trouble!

I'm an American and I know everything I need to know.

Gravity sucks, George Noory Sucks, and Art Bell is back!!! Everything else is meaningless noise and distraction.

chinaclipper · August 28, 2015, 04:49:20 PM

this thread makes my head hurt.

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 04:50:31 PM

Quote from: coaster on August 28, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Jesus christ, what a bunch of pointless bullshit. This is the Art Bell thread. Take your political retardation to the politics section.

+1 ...couldn't agree more!

sorefinger · August 28, 2015, 04:56:01 PM

Quote from: CornyCrow on August 28, 2015, 04:44:05 PM
I would love to hear a longer interview between Art and Donald Trump. My only wish would be that Donald would take a more sane view of our environmental problems. Just today I read that summer tourism to places like Italy is waning because of the heat.

It's hard for me to understand how people rationalize in favor of the immigration issue. Poorer countries are always going to have economic downturns, it seems, as well as political strife, as well as breeding profusely, adding to the problem. We really have to solve this problem right now. To neglect this issue or allow such immigration for the temporary need for cheap brown labor or votes is just kicking the can into the future, and magnifying the problem.

The 14th Amendment was meant to give citizenship to the children of ex-slaves, people who were already citizens. The issue has never been addressed in the Supreme Court. They, I hope, would rule in favor of the original, and obvious, intent - so there is no need for a change of the Constitution.

A discussion of the Fourteenth Amendment would make a great show. Invite the constitutional lawyer, Jonathan Turley, who is a regular guest all over talk TV, to appear on mitd. Even if you are not interested, 90% of the population is.

chefist · August 28, 2015, 04:58:31 PM

Quote from: coaster on August 28, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Jesus christ, what a bunch of pointless bullshit. This is the Art Bell thread. Take your political retardation to the politics section.

Yea, I'm taking a break till it gets back to Art...

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:08:59 PM

Does Trump even know who Art Bell is?

Even if he did, why would he take the time to do an internet streaming show which is only broadcast out to 20 or so affiliates who carry the stream with an unknown listener base ( size and reach)?

Not being in the US, has or is Trump doing other radio programs ( I have no clue)? If so, which ones? I would guess that if he is, he would be going where he is getting the biggest bang for his time/buck....just saying.

What is Stern's listernship these days? It seems to me that Art would be better off marketing MITD by going to huge markets and getting on the air to discuss his history in broadcasting and segue into what he and MITD has to offer to listeners....how he differentiates in the marketplace and why.

He also needs something tangible to go viral, close to it, or something that is accessible on the internet to anyone, anytime. Promoting MITD with classic shows and/or show clips, as I have already stated, IMHO is critical. It is a different world out there today. Most people are watching and listening on demand on their clock. People are not going to fork out $$ unless they can test run an "entertainment" product, which is what MITD is, on their terms in their time and convenience, and decide if they like it or not.

There is no way right now for anyone to find Art, MITD unless they happen to turn on one of the handful of stations who carry the show and happen to catch the feed live, or already know about the show and stream it live. These are not great odds to grow a listener base.

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:15:07 PM

Quote from: sorefinger on August 28, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
A discussion of the Fourteenth Amendment would make a great show. Invite the constitutional lawyer, Jonathan Turley, who is a regular guest all over talk TV, to appear on mitd. Even if you are not interested, 90% of the population is.

This show is now international. If Art wants to appeal to a broader audience than just the US, I would suggest a broader lens then topics that just affect the US. I don't/won't listen to MITD for debates on US constitutional issues or politics. Aren't there enough of these on the MM airwaves already?

How and when did these topics ever come into the genre that I thought MITD is? What happened to "wanna take a ride"?

wr250 · August 28, 2015, 05:18:57 PM

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 05:08:59 PM
Promoting MITD with classic shows and/or show clips, as I have already stated, IMHO is critical.

this will not happen. premier owns all of arts coast shows, and sirius/xm owns all the dark matter shows. its unlikely that Art will want to even bother contacting either of these 2 to get permission to use the clips, it is more unlikely they would ever grant such permission.
as it is , SIT on premier networks is about the closest thing to promoting art they will do ( i suspect that SIT outshines most coast to coast shows nowadays).

GravitySucks · August 28, 2015, 05:21:02 PM

Quote from: wr250 on August 28, 2015, 05:18:57 PM
this will not happen. premier owns all of arts coast shows, and sirius/xm owns all the dark matter shows. its unlikely that Art will want to even bother contacting either of these 2 to get permission to use the clips, it is more unlikely they would ever grant such permission.
as it is , SIT on premier networks is about the closest thing to promoting art they will do ( i suspect that SIT outshines most coast to coast shows nowadays).

Not C2C or DM shows.... Classic MITD shows

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:22:00 PM

Quote from: wr250 on August 28, 2015, 05:18:57 PM
this will not happen. premier owns all of arts coast shows, and sirius/xm owns all the dark matter shows. its unlikely that Art will want to even bother contacting either of these 2 to get permission to use the clips, it is more unlikely they would ever grant such permission.
as it is , SIT on premier networks is about the closest thing to promoting art they will do ( i suspect that SIT outshines most coast to coast shows nowadays).

I know the above.

I wasn't talking about those old shows...I was referring to the best of MITD to date - classic MITD

littlechris · August 28, 2015, 05:22:48 PM

I think if Art wants the exposure he is looking for, he really is going to have to cater to AM/FM stations. I dont mind having more commercials. In fact I prefer them when listening live as it allows me to go to the restroom or go to the kitchen and get something to drink, etc,etc. It think most people would be ok with more commercials if it means Art growing the show.

BellBoy · August 28, 2015, 05:26:28 PM

Quote from: wr250 on August 28, 2015, 05:18:57 PM
this will not happen. premier owns all of arts coast shows, and sirius/xm owns all the dark matter shows. its unlikely that Art will want to even bother contacting either of these 2 to get permission to use the clips, it is more unlikely they would ever grant such permission.
as it is , SIT on premier networks is about the closest thing to promoting art they will do ( i suspect that SIT outshines most coast to coast shows nowadays).

In just six weeks, Art already has an impressive number of top-notch "classics". He needs to consider offering at least a sample to the general public, if he wants anyone new to bite. Maybe the first hour, free on YouTube, daily or perhaps one full show a week... Give them a taste and they WILL come back for the whole pie.

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:32:10 PM

Quote from: littlechris on August 28, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
I think if Art wants the exposure he is looking for, he really is going to have to cater to AM/FM stations. I dont mind having more commercials. In fact I prefer them when listening live as it allows me to go to the restroom or go to the kitchen and get something to drink, etc,etc. It think most people would be ok with more commercials if it means Art growing the show.

I think you may be right.

I know that Art wants to do things on his own terms and if he really wants to just have fun with a small intimate group of listeners and have MITD grow slowly, then he has the choice to keep doing what he is now.

If Art has changed his mind and wants to become a larger player in this market, then he will have to make some concessions IMHO to get MITD out to a larger marketplace, along with stellar guest, shows and reparte on the show.

I hate to say this, however this weeks programs for me have been mediocre at best ( topic/guest)

I have heard nothing new, not much of interest, or not much of why I should listen to MITD over and above many of the other programs I have heard on DMDN, which I can stream for free anytime I want....but hey, that's just me and I will continue to be a "time traveler"

Actually OSOM has me waiting for more.....I can't wait for the next show. I so wish I could say that for MITD

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:39:05 PM

Quote from: BellBoy on August 28, 2015, 05:26:28 PM
In just six weeks, Art already has an impressive number of top-notch "classics". He needs to consider offering at least a sample to the general public, if he wants anyone new to bite. Maybe the first hour, free on YouTube, daily or perhaps one full show a week... Give them a taste and they WILL come back for the whole pie.

Agreed. This is what John B Wells has done...I am assuming with success. He puts out a full program for free ...not sure of how often however I would guess at minimum twice per month if not more.

I don't think the first hour alone will cut it. Full great show for all to hear for free when they want and have time to listen. It's well known that one has to bait a hook to catch fish....and I don't mean fish in a derogatory way.

Meister_000 · August 28, 2015, 05:40:33 PM

I'm confused were Art stands today re numbers threshold in order to maintain his "small internet broadcaster" status visa-viz the music royalty fees. Does he or does he not want to go BIG, and go big NOW? How big is big? What is his limit, cap, subscriber number, streaming bandwidth calculus, or what-have-you. Does he have any incremental target goals in mind? E.g. X number of ideal or realistic or comfortable new subscribers added per month? Ya-da ya-da. His he trying to leap into huge numbers real quick so that he _can_ pay for the impending or looming and inevitable higher bracket music royalties? Has he already reached his initial goal faster than expected?

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:46:38 PM

What John B Wells has done on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/user/JohnBWellsCTM

WhiteCrow · August 28, 2015, 05:48:26 PM

Quote from: BellBoy on August 28, 2015, 01:07:09 PM
Americans: Superior and immune to criticism.

Those damn Brits imported the slaves to America and layed the guilt on us because we didn't free them after the revolution. Took the civil war and 600,000 casualties to make a start on the injustice caused by their slave powered empire.

chefist · August 28, 2015, 05:51:36 PM

I hope Art just finds contentment in the journey! Who cares about numbers of listeners as long as it is self sustaining from a business stand point...time will win over the market...

ART, just enjoy yourself! Find fulfilment in each and every show!

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 05:52:30 PM

Quote from: WhiteCrow on August 28, 2015, 05:48:26 PM
Those damn Brits imported the slaves to America and layed the guilt on us because we didn't free them after the revolution. Took the civil war and 600,000 casualties to make a start on the injustice caused by their slave powered empire.

What the F does this have to do with Art Bell?!?!?

sorefinger · August 28, 2015, 05:56:50 PM

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 05:32:10 PM

I hate to say this, however this weeks programs for me have been mediocre at best ( topic/guest).

I have heard nothing new...

Longevity didn't interest you? I thought it was a stand-out show. It was new, something you didn't find on the other shows you mentioned.

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 06:02:45 PM

Quote from: chefist on August 28, 2015, 05:51:36 PM
I hope Art just finds contentment in the journey! Who cares about numbers of listeners as long as it is self sustaining from a business stand point...time will win over the market...

ART, just enjoy yourself! Find fulfilment in each and every show!

Well said chefist!! I wish this for Art too.

Sadly for whatever reason, it seems he is not happy with whatever is at this point in time. I hope he finds a way to reconcile that in a way it works for him and of course for us.

GravitySucks · August 28, 2015, 06:03:33 PM

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 05:32:10 PM

I hate to say this, however this weeks programs for me have been mediocre at best ( topic/guest)

I have heard nothing new, not much of interest, or not much of why I should listen to MITD over and above many of the other programs I have heard on DMDN, which I can stream for free anytime I want....but hey, that's just me and I will continue to be a "time traveler"

Actually OSOM has me waiting for more.....I can't wait for the next show. I so wish I could say that for MITD

This is one of my concerns with MITD. I love listening to Art and will stay a Time Traveler as long as he continues... But coming up with interesting/relavent guests is going to be a challenge for Art aand (Heather).

If Art was to have any of the guests we used to love, I dare say that there wouldn't be anything new.

It is not like the world of paranormal changes every day. There are some pretty strong opinions on this thread, so there is no clear path forward. Examples of the dysfunctional nature of selected comments:
Interview Trump/No Politcs
Linda Moulten Howe/can stand LMH or her voice
More Bigfoot/no Bigfoot
More David Paulides/DP plays to loose with the facts
More open lines/we hate open lines

Since everyone has an opinion, I will offer mine.
2 nights per week of open lines. If something late breaking develops that is of interest to Art, then devote the first hour of the show to a guest.
1 night of open lines would be a specific topic... The other night would be anything goes.

2 nights per week of "new content" covering any range of topics that Art feels like talking about.

1 night per week of a classic guest from the past, even if it is just to retell some interesting stories.

Everyone screams for Mel's Hole. What would Mel say about the hole that hasn't been said before... But yeah, it would make for an interesting show.

I like to listen to one guest per show... Multiple guests on at the same time are to hard on my head. Round tables are not my cup of tea unless everyone is in the same room and can react to visual cues of Art.

I know that a lot of people have posted topic suggestions and/or sent them to (Heather), but my guess is that there is a lot of overlap and that for 2/3s of the suggestions 50% will love them, 50% will hate them and say they aren't going to listen, and the other 19.5% will be geometrically opposed to the concept of anyone talking to Art other than themselves.

I want MITD to last until I can't afford it anymore, so I think having two nights of open lines per week will help stretch the guests.

nika01 · August 28, 2015, 06:04:33 PM

Quote from: chefist on August 28, 2015, 05:51:36 PM
I hope Art just finds contentment in the journey! Who cares about numbers of listeners as long as it is self sustaining from a business stand point...time will win over the market...

ART, just enjoy yourself! Find fulfilment in each and every show!

Rational advice

chefist · August 28, 2015, 06:08:31 PM

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 06:02:45 PM
Well said chefist!! I wish this for Art too.

Sadly for whatever reason, it seems he is not happy with whatever is at this point in time. I hope he finds a way to reconcile that in a way it works for him and of course for us.

Yea, none of us are on the inside so who really knows how Art feels outside of his posts here.

I set out to grow my business organically...not artificially...I'm glad that I did! I have time for my daughter and myself, and the business continues to grow based on the quality of the products and our level of service...I'm content each and everyday! I don't need to drive a fancy car or live in a mansion...time is more valuable than money in our short shooting star lives!

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 06:08:48 PM

Quote from: sorefinger on August 28, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
Longevity didn't interest you? I thought it was a stand-out show. It was new, something you didn't find on the other shows you mentioned.

Actually the show did not impress me at all until Art and the guest began to talk about hemp/cannabis and ancient Chinese, Ayurvedic medicine/s....then the breadth and depth left me short, however that's just me.

There is no fountain of youth since ponce de leon went looking for it.

I didn't like Klatz. Art seemed grumpy for the first part of the show too....we have heard this before. For me it was more of a Dave type of show....sorry.

chefist · August 28, 2015, 06:11:26 PM

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 06:08:48 PM
Actually the show did not impress me at all until Art and the guest began to talk about hemp/cannabis and ancient Chinese, Ayurvedic medicine/s....then the breadth and depth left me short, however that's just me.

There is no fountain of youth since ponce de leon went looking for it.

I didn't like Klatz. For me it was more of a Dave type of show....sorry.

He avoided answering my question about over nutrition and cigarette smoking! At least he acknowledged juicing! LOL

Freyja · August 28, 2015, 06:22:43 PM

Quote from: chefist on August 28, 2015, 06:11:26 PM
He avoided answering my question about over nutrition and cigarette smoking! At least he acknowledged juicing! LOL

I heard your call and it was a good one.

The entire show didn't go anywhere IMHO. This is not like Art. He usually has know when he has a guest where he wants to go and where he will take it. I didn't hear that last night.

I understand that he is grieving about his friend Ben's passing. However, the show must go on and if one is going to do one and want to expand their audience relative to competition out there, it has to be better than last night.

So, for those who listened to the entire show....what did you learn about "longevity"? Did you do anything with what you heard to research anything further? ...just saying....

sorefinger · August 28, 2015, 06:25:01 PM

Quote from: Freyja on August 28, 2015, 05:52:30 PM
What the F does this have to do with Art Bell?!?!?

Half the comments here do not have anything to do with Art Bell. My comment right now has nothing to do with Art Bell, the same as your comment above has nothing to do with Art Bell, too. If you are going to self appoint yourself moderator, at least be fair and don't just pick on one person. Other than that, you post excellent comments. Just don't be a bully!