Art Bell

[popple]

Keith Rowland has let this DM Radio Network go to his head.

It's not like he even gets that many listeners on the stream. The stats are readily available here: http://live.darkmatterradio.net:8303/

Shame on you Keith.

YUP! I was stunned how he exaggerated Jimmy Church's listener stats when I wrote to voice concerns. Told me he easily gets 3x's the listeners as all the other shows. WUT? I didn't even write to ask about the numbers cause I already knew. At least he had the sense to agree that JC should drop all the irrelevant celebrity stuff LOL!

I also like the MV/ufoship.com idea a lot! #FREEARTBELL

[Faustina]

I think Art was relying on Keith and his past relationship with him for the new show. Now that their relationship is gone I'm not sure Art will have the heart or will to start it all from scratch with a new partner.

Unless he gets huge bucks from Cumulus to do 2 nights a week.  From his home, of course.

[jazmunda]

Unless he gets huge bucks from Cumulus to do 2 nights a week.  From his home, of course.

It was my understanding that Art was done with terrestrial radio.

Also who would hire him after the Dark Matter debacle. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and he is clearly the best in the business but he is a liability from a long term business proposition.

[Morgus]

Could this have been Noory's secret plan?
Entice one of the main Dark Matter network hosts like Jimmy Church to come to the C2CAM Dark Side, causing a rift between them and Art Bell?
Noory then prevents Art's return to compete with him in 2015?

[littlechris]

Art Bell's beef is with Keith Rowland not Church.

Art has every right to have beef with jimmy church!  Church didnt have to join the dark side. Jimmy knew the rivalry between coast/premier and Art, but he chose to betray Art and willingly  chose to accept coasts offer.  Also Art is absolutely right in that coast/premier purposely went after jimmy to steal him away from Dark Matter Radio. But jimmy was a fool for taking the bait and being naive enough to think that coast genuinely wanted him as a host and that it wasn't meant to get at Art and piss him off.

As far as Keith, I think Art is pissed off because Keith never told him about Jimmy leaving to go to coast. As soon as Keith found out, he should of got on the phone and told Art. Keith tried sweeping it under the rug and not telling Art about it. I wouldnt be suprised if coast even offered Keith a position within the company. Its obvious that coast/premier are REALLY trying to do Art harm, emotionally. Thats soo fucked up and those two (keith and jimmy) are fucked up too!!!!

Art's done.

[WOTR]

I don't get why Art would be mad at Keith for having a host on the DM network that also ends up doing a stint on c2c on the weekends.  I'm sure it's just as a fill-in, .... probably Dave Schrader and George Knapp are unavailable and they had to scramble to find someone else.

I guarantee that they are not "scrambling" to find a host.  This was a calculated move and it paid off.  They have dozens of people that would jump at the chance to host a nationally syndicated show.  Hell, even Streiber has done it (and you have to believe that if he is still breathing, he would do it again.)

Why would Art be a little ticked?  You have a host who is using a platform he helped set up going to work with the people he considers scum (the whole Oates interview, blacklisting his guests and suspicious coincidence that Coast ended up on Serius right after he signed up...)  Rather than just quitting and doing the gig, the host wants to continue to work both sides so he can have his regular platform on DM and will work Coast for all he's worth when he appears there.

My guess is that Art asked that Keith cut Church loose so as to pull his support.  Force him to live with the consequence of his choice.  Keith says "no" because he is hoping that having Church appear on Coast brings in more listeners.  In reality, Art has not really promoted DM and Keith may have been hoping that Chruch could help out with the numbers.  Getting DM mentioned to a couple of hundred thousand listeners would be the best publicity that Keith never bought...

The above is just a guess- and there are 100 other scenarios (yes, including Art is just a diva and both Keith and Church are saints...)  I suppose the sad part is that it kind of leaves Bateman and some others who were loyal and relying on DM out in the cold.  It also makes you wonder what the "back up plan" is or if this is the end of the road...

[Scully]

"Trust in relationships'?  'Trust the people I work with'?  What bull-crap.  He has known and worked with Keith for how many years?  And to just throw him under the bus?  Really?

In other words Art Bell quit Dark Matter because he got tired of it after a few weeks.  And made up a bunch of excuses for it.  He never intended to return, and gave himself 2 years to find a reason not to.  (I guess I should add:  all this is IMO)

What, he was going to do podcasts?  YouTube videos?  Did any of that ever make sense to anyone?

So what someone from DM hosts a few weekend shows.  What's that have to do with anything.

Speaking of trust in relationships and trusting people one works with, it seems to me Keith has been taken advantage of by someone who never intended to return


Anyone else tired of this little Drama Queen?

Yes, Paper*Boy, you and I think alike on this.  I think Art just heaved a big sigh of relief. Now he has his excuse, which no one can possibly blame HIM for, to say he tried and it just didn't work out for him to come back on the air.

[Faustina]

Could this have been Noory's secret plan?
Entice one of the main Dark Matter network hosts like Jimmy Church to come to the C2CAM Dark Side, causing a rift between them and Art Bell?
Noory then prevents Art's return to compete with him in 2015?

I don't think Noory is that smart to figure out a plan that perfect in its subtlety.

[WOTR]

Yes, Paper*Boy, you and I think alike on this.  I think Art just heaved a big sigh of relief. Now he has his excuse, which no one can possibly blame HIM for, to say he tried and it just didn't work out for him to come back on the air.

I don't know... He always had the back excuse in his back pocket.  I don't think he needed this when he oculd have easily said "folks, I would love to try this- but there is no way I can sit for that amount of time... I'm sorry."

Heck I'll buy some HGH to boost my libido for you.

Which way shall I interpret this???

[jazmunda]

Could this have been Noory's secret plan?
Entice one of the main Dark Matter network hosts like Jimmy Church to come to the C2CAM Dark Side, causing a rift between them and Art Bell?
Noory then prevents Art's return to compete with him in 2015?

I'm positive that there is some truth to that.

[WhiteCrow]

"Trust in relationships'?  'Trust the people I work with'?


Anyone else tired of this little Drama Queen?

Nope.... I expect Art to go grade school girlie vengeful, every year or so.
Seems like it's the norm for lots of very talented show biz types.
....keeps us fish hooked, getting sucked into their Drama.

[nooryisawesome]

I think Art was relying on Keith and his past relationship with him for the new show. Now that their relationship is gone I'm not sure Art will have the heart or will to start it all from scratch with a new partner.

Truth is no one know what Art will do. The man is a recluse.

Art could just say to hell with it. However, from his facebook post it looks like he still wants to compete with C2C. The post also says where he will broadcast his show is an open question, not IF he would.

[jazmunda]

I truly believe that if someone doesn't come to Art with a ready made solution he will be done. He doesn't seem like he has the drive or the business nous to do it himself anymore. That and he isn't a young man anymore. Retirement would seem like a good option now.

[Morgus]

Keith Rowland just posted a minute ago a comment to Art Bell's facebook post (KR must still be one Art Bell's facebook 'friends' to do that):
"Keith Rowland: So because I didn't call Art and advise him that Jimmy would appear on C2C, I'm tossed under the bus, even though many DMRN hosts and guests have appeared on C2C already."

[Bonanza Pilot]

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[Bonanza Pilot]

Who da thunk Art would have quit his new show 7 months prior to starting.

Art Bell will not be returning in 2015.

My thoughts, exactly.

Like you, I hope I am wrong.

[WOTR]

Keith Rowland just posted a minute ago a comment to Art Bell's facebook post (KR must still be one Art Bell's facebook 'friends' to do that):
"Keith Rowland: So because I didn't call Art and advise him that Jimmy would appear on C2C, I'm tossed under the bus, even though many DMRN hosts and guests have appeared on C2C already."

Somehow I think Art may inform him of the difference between appearing on and hosting...

[Scully]

I truly believe that if someone doesn't come to Art with a ready made solution he will be done. He doesn't seem like he has the drive or the business nous to do it himself anymore. That and he isn't a young man anymore. Retirement would seem like a good option now.

I agree, Jaz.

The man doesn't want to work anymore.  He will NEVER admit it, though. And I get zero pleasure in thinking that.

[PB the Deplorable]

I guarantee that they are not "scrambling" to find a host.  This was a calculated move and it paid off...

Maybe, but would it have been reasonable of George to assume the outcome would be Art Bell coming unglued? 

Keith sure didn't seem to think it was any big deal.  Art could have easily yawned and ignored it.  There is no 'betrayal' here, except Art Bell wants to make it one.

[WOTR]

Maybe, but would it have been reasonable of George to assume the outcome would be Art Bell coming unglued? 

Keith sure didn't seem to think it was any big deal.  Art could have easily yawned and ignored it.  There is no 'betrayal' here, except Art Bell wants to make it one.

Does Coke often allow it's executives to moonlight with Pepsi?  And that is completely impersonal example.  In the case of Art, Pemrat and George you think that Art was going to say "way to go Jimmy... Do your best for Pemrat; make sure to give George a big kiss for me."

If even I can spot the stupidity in an action and understand an emotional response I am surprised when others think that it should simply be water under the bridge.  Hell, I called it yesterday when I asked how many of these shenanigans art will put up with before saying "fuck it."

The fact that keith did not see it as a big deal is likely what brought this to the conclusion it has reached.  Maybe it really is not a big deal- but blowing off somebody who feels righteous indignation (rightfully or otherwise) is not generally going to lead to a good outcome... And here we are.  Keith does not have a big name coming in a few months, DMRN has no name recognition, Art has no platform for a return, Bateman has no podcast and Coast continues on happily sucking for all it's worth with no competition in sight. 

Well played Mr. Noory and executives at the 'Rat.

[WhiteCrow]

Keith Rowland just posted a minute ago a comment to Art Bell's facebook post (KR must still be one Art Bell's facebook 'friends' to do that):
"Keith Rowland: So because I didn't call Art and advise him that Jimmy would appear on C2C, I'm tossed under the bus, even though many DMRN hosts and guests have appeared on C2C already."

Art better get grip, he's headed for a "Lonesome Rhodes" ending.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

There is no 'betrayal' here, except Art Bell wants to make it one.

I'm thinking Art is just making excuses to not come back.

[nooryisawesome]

More comments from Art bells facebook message


Leslie Lee Bell: Keith, just apologize. You really think a FB war is going to make anything better? Seriously?

Keith Rowland: Leslie Lee Bell: I did many times.

[Nick el Ass]

I noticed that people were talking about the site being down earlier, and now we know why. I can totally see why Art is pissed... but perhaps he is better off from what I have heard about both people.

[nooryisawesome]

I noticed that people were talking about the site being down earlier, and now we know why. I can totally see why Art is pissed... but perhaps he is better off from what I have heard about both people.

It is true other people have had issues with Keith. MV and the other guy who does a podcast, chubby nice fellow.

[FightTheFuture]

I agree, Jaz.

The man doesn't want to work anymore.  He will NEVER admit it, though. And I get zero pleasure in thinking that.

I still think if Art had a one night per week gig, where he could focus all his efforts on just one show per week. I think he could do well with that. Although, I think that's where the disconnect is for Art. He still feels like he can do a full schedule, but perhaps in the back of his mind, there lingers some doubt, thus, the litany of excuses.

[nextgen.fm]

Wow!

Art is nuts!

He doesn't f around

[nooryisawesome]

It is true other people have had issues with Keith. MV and the other guy who does a podcast, chubby nice fellow.

Malliard is the guys name. Keith tweeted something that said his show was an embarasment or something when he had his wife on.

[WhiteCrow]

When I called Keith, his response was "don't worry he will stay on DM and Coast". At that point I decided to pull my Web Page and asked Keith to remove my name from the Dark Matter site.


Oh crap... guess I'll have to scrape off my "Art Bell - Dark Matter" bumper sticker.

[nooryisawesome]

Art could do a show on youtube.