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boxman

Quote from: JesusJuice on July 20, 2016, 07:22:06 PM

Not true. He called in two months ago to retell his famous Mastercard story.


http://midnightinthedesert.com/art-bell-calls-mastercard-story/


And he hosted a full night of open lines in... March I think it was? He shilled for Trump the entire three hours.
I was here during the open lines show... Not only was it already too late, but it was also just this one time to fool the few remaining time travelers to keep subscribing by giving them false hope at a time when they were losing subscribers.

boxman

Quote from: norland2424 on July 20, 2016, 07:23:21 PM
He also called in sometime in jan using his demon voice changer
Pure speculations.. Sounded absolutely nothing like Art.

norland2424

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 08:30:34 PM
Pure speculations.. Sounded absolutely nothing like Art.


The demon was art lol

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 07:18:23 PM
... The truth is he used made up the stalker episode as a excuse because he was burned out and did not enjoy it anymore.

fify

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Robert on July 20, 2016, 05:45:07 PM
I thought the Satanist lady show was great largely because Art was blind-sided & frustrated about it -- or at least played it that way.  I'm still not sure that wasn't all an act on his part.

An-ti-cii-pa-tion. I kept waiting for Art to let loose on her (What the hell kind of Satanist are you anyway, lady?) but it didn't happen. Great in a way, I suppose, but it could have been better, if you know what I'm saying.

EDIT:

Not an act on Art's part, I'd say. I think he was expecting someone else and this New-Agey lady showed up thanks to Heather.

boxman

Quote from: norland2424 on July 20, 2016, 08:35:29 PM

The demon was art lol
Makes me wonder if there was two such calls then, as the one who called during a show when I listened definitely was not Art even though some people speculated at first if it was.

boxman

Quote from: Value Of Pi on July 20, 2016, 08:50:28 PM
An-ti-cii-pa-tion. I kept waiting for Art to let loose on her (What the hell kind of Satanist are you anyway, lady?) but it didn't happen. Great in a way, I suppose, but it could have been better, if you know what I'm saying.

EDIT:

Not an act on Art's part, I'd say. I think he was expecting someone else and this New-Agey lady showed up thanks to Heather.
Probably one of the reasons he got tired of the show. Could often hear the frustration in his voice with some of the awful guests that she booked.
I guess we can put some of the blame on Heather even for Art's departure.

norland2424

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 09:51:29 PM
Makes me wonder if there was two such calls then, as the one who called during a show when I listened definitely was not Art even though some people speculated at first if it was.

the one i heard was def Art, it was during some openlines and she had some demon line that no one was calling in, and she had the " caller" on for about 10 min and it seemed to cheer her up

pate

Shouldn't outta talk like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwt1DVaYLy4

, Justice Boi...

boxman

Quote from: norland2424 on July 20, 2016, 09:59:01 PM
the one i heard was def Art, it was during some openlines and she had some demon line that no one was calling in, and she had the " caller" on for about 10 min and it seemed to cheer her up
Hmm.. I actually don't think it was the same show then. I recall listening to a show with a "demon" sounding voice changer, but I don't think the caller called as a demon. I just recall people here on bellgab speculating that it was him before most came to the conclusion that it probably was not Art.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Robert on July 20, 2016, 10:19:07 AM
That sentence-and-a-half distorts the sequence of events.  She'd become his producer.  Is there any evidence she was bad at that job?  Then she was plugged into the breach on air.

Not unprecedented.  Jason Jarvis was his mother Judy Jarvis's producer, then took over on air when she sickened (smoking-related lung CA, BTW), and again when she died.  I listened for a while, but he was clearly inferior, yet when I looked it up recently I found out his show had hung on a few years.

It might not be unprecedented but it's sufficiently rare to be regarded as the exception that proves the rule. That kind of decision screamed 'small time' to everyone, and so it has proved. I can't imagine Stern handing over the mic to Gary and the audience being happy to wear it, for example, and he had lots of on-air experience. No established host would do that unless they had some undeclared motive underlying it. You keep mentioning this character Jason Jarvis, but I bet most people haven't even heard of the bloke, which rather proves the point. Not only did Art hand it over to his producer, she was a producer who never got on the air, so the audience was totally unused to her in any on-air role. A few forgettable podcast appearances do not count.

Quote from: Robert on July 20, 2016, 10:19:07 AM
Besides, I did see improvement in her on air over the initial weeks.  But then it seemed to plateau or at least slow down. 

That's only because the bar had been set so low that the only way was up from the catastrophe of the early days. The trouble is, no amount of experience in a role is going to help if you're an airhead with no aptitude for what you're doing. Of all the paranormal topics Art has discussed, the most mysterious is why that bloody woman thinks she should be on the air.

Quote from: Robert on July 20, 2016, 10:19:07 AM
It's not like there was a great choice to pick from at the time Ms. Wade was put on air. 

Then it would have made more sense to let the show quietly end. Art wasn't willing to cop the blame for that so he decided to let a zombie show stagger along instead and rely on the goodwill of his fans to keep it going for a while.


Robert

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 21, 2016, 08:33:12 AMIt might not be unprecedented but it's sufficiently rare to be regarded as the exception that proves the rule. That kind of decision screamed 'small time' to everyone, and so it has proved. I can't imagine Stern handing over the mic to Gary and the audience being happy to wear it, for example, and he had lots of on-air experience. No established host would do that unless they had some undeclared motive underlying it.
Who knows what Stern would do if he felt threatened with death if he went into the studio?  But I bet he has a few possible proteges lined up by now.  Not so with MITD, which had been on only a few mos.
QuoteYou keep mentioning this character Jason Jarvis, but I bet most people haven't even heard of the bloke, which rather proves the point.
Most people haven't heard of MITD either.  The Judy Jarvis Show was a networked phone-in talk show (mid-afternoon except where delayed) out of Hartford that mostly was on small and small-market stations, similarly to MITD, except it had a longer time to spread and had done so.  Then I'm sure it started to contract once it became the Jason Jarvis Show.
QuoteNot only did Art hand it over to his producer, she was a producer who never got on the air, so the audience was totally unused to her in any on-air role. A few forgettable podcast appearances do not count.
Who would you have put on at the time?  Or reruns or pull the plug?
QuoteThat's only because the bar had been set so low that the only way was up from the catastrophe of the early days. The trouble is, no amount of experience in a role is going to help if you're an airhead with no aptitude for what you're doing.
She's not an airhead.  She doesn't have any particular aptitude for conducting interviews on air, but I don't think the avg. person would either.
QuoteOf all the paranormal topics Art has discussed, the most mysterious is why that bloody woman thinks she should be on the air.
If it'd happened to you, would you have turned it down?  Said, no, Art, I guess we're going to have to pull the plug or...?
QuoteThen it would have made more sense to let the show quietly end.
Quietly in the sense of dead air?  Or in some sense of tapering the audience off to mollify them rather than cold turkey?  Like putting Heather on for the next week, announcing it would be the last week unless Art figured out a way to get safely into the studio & back?

Tinfoil_Helm

Quote from: boxman on July 20, 2016, 07:18:23 PM
The truth is he used the stalker episode as a excuse because he was burned out and did not enjoy it anymore.

Exactly.  Art already had the money too, and leaving us with the godawful Heather was his way of slithering out and keeping the dough.  Sucks.

Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
Who knows what Stern would do if he felt threatened with death if he went into the studio?...

We don't know what Art Bell would do in that circumstance either.


Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
... unless Art figured out a way to get safely into the studio & back?

Oh FFS

Tinfoil_Helm

Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
She's not an airhead.

You can defend Art all you want, but he left us high and dry.  Heather is the dumbest person that has ever been near a microphone.  She can't read or pronounce words.

Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on July 21, 2016, 09:15:50 PM
Heather is the dumbest person that has ever been near a microphone.  She can't read or pronounce words.
Nope


ItsOver

Heather and Jorch.  Which one of these glasses is the emptiest?



SredniVashtar

Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
Who knows what Stern would do if he felt threatened with death if he went into the studio?  But I bet he has a few possible proteges lined up by now.

Oh, come on! If you still buy that story I've got a bridge I want to sell you. Anyway, Stern is too professional to hand over the reins to someone even tangentially qualified, let alone a total rookie. I very much doubt that he is concerned with his legacy either; once he's done with radio I can't imagine that he will worry who succeeds him.

Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
Who would you have put on at the time?  Or reruns or pull the plug?

If Art Bell doesn't want to do the show then it's not the Art Bell show any more, any attempt to carry the torch is a gesture of bad faith and shows contempt for the listeners (assuming there is even more than one now). It's best to rip off the Band-Aid in one go rather than drag it out.

Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
She's not an airhead.  She doesn't have any particular aptitude for conducting interviews on air, but I don't think the avg. person would either.

Someone who doesn't know how to pronounce 'Scalia' certainly doesn't sound like they are up there among your country's most gifted. Perhaps there's something dumber than an airhead, but if not that will do for now. She doesn't sound like she's had much education or has any interest in acquiring knowledge either. It's an embarrassment to hear someone stumbling around like that.

Quote from: Robert on July 21, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
If it'd happened to you, would you have turned it down?  Said, no, Art, I guess we're going to have to pull the plug or...?

First I'd assume it was a joke; then I'd assume that Art was on drugs/having a meltdown; then I'd wonder if I was on drugs/having a meltdown. Then I'd tell him to fuck off. If something comes out of the blue like that you are entitled to assume that there are iffy reasons underlying it, as there probably were/are.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on July 21, 2016, 09:15:50 PM
You can defend Art all you want, but he left us high and dry.  Heather is the dumbest person that has ever been near a microphone.  She can't read or pronounce words.

Go listen to last night's C2C and see is you can make it past the question Dave had for the guest who was some type of investment advisor "How much does a bag of coins way?" <click>

Quote from: GravitySucks on July 22, 2016, 08:11:54 AM
Go listen to last night's C2C

So, last night Noory had a political analyst guy on at the beginning.  Noory says "Ok, we'll talk to you again next week for the Democratic convention"... then the guy seemed aggravated and says "I thought we we talking tomorrow night?!!"

LOL!!

Anyone catch that?

If we're going to be honest here, it's obvious Heather has no natural aptitude for hosting a radio program. We all have ears to hear; you don't need to have a background in radio to draw this conclusion. We shouldn't let personal feelings get in the way of making a sound judgment.

She has no fault here, it's Art who bears the responsibility. His hasty retreat from the show basically sealed its fate. It was damaged goods, and no self respecting radio host would touch it. Who could blame them? 🙁


bobo17

smart
i've got to say, there is at leest on smart cookie on this board who gets it

bobo

whoozit

How's Greasy?

ge30542

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 21, 2016, 09:12:25 PM
We don't know what Art Bell would do in that circumstance either.

PaperBoy continues to display Award Winning comedy skills.

ge30542

Quote from: god of thunder on July 22, 2016, 09:59:32 AM
If we're going to be honest here, it's obvious Heather has no natural aptitude for hosting a radio program. We all have ears to hear; you don't need to have a background in radio to draw this conclusion. We shouldn't let personal feelings get in the way of making a sound judgment.

She has no fault here, it's Art who bears the responsibility. His hasty retreat from the show basically sealed its fate. It was damaged goods, and no self respecting radio host would touch it. Who could blame them? 🙁
Exactly this.
Having zero skill for on-air work doesn't make one a bad person, merely a bad on-air personality.
It's a reflection on Art Bell. I don't think he gives a shit anyway.

ge30542

SV, are you a fan of Ms. May?
I enjoyed seeing her at Parliament speaking about Corbyn.
Very funny.

trostol

Quote from: GravitySucks on July 22, 2016, 08:11:54 AM
Go listen to last night's C2C and see is you can make it past the question Dave had for the guest who was some type of investment advisor "How much does a bag of coins way?" <click>

really? i wish i had heard that lol

albrecht

Quote from: trostol on July 22, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
really? i wish i had heard that lol
It is on the youtubes and was bizarre. The guest kept asking "weigh?" "weigh?" Clearing confused as to the stupid question. And then Norry explained in some math speculation about weight of individual coins, how many coins, etc and then pivoted and said "it was a trick question." To which the guest, confused, laughed and moved on and said how smart Norry was. Soon after, or before, they both also were concerned about Brexit and 'converting' stuff and "going back to the Pound"- even though the UK never used the Euro and still uses the Pound (one of their special opt-out provisions they bargained for when joining the Euro.) The show was a mess.

Robert

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 22, 2016, 08:06:28 AMSomeone who doesn't know how to pronounce 'Scalia' certainly doesn't sound like they are up there among your country's most gifted. Perhaps there's something dumber than an airhead, but if not that will do for now. She doesn't sound like she's had much education or has any interest in acquiring knowledge either. It's an embarrassment to hear someone stumbling around like that.
Smart people tend to hang around smart people to keep from being bored, so tend to think of the merely avg. as airheads.  Yes, that does mean if you put an avg. person on as host, smart people will get bored a lot.  But I've hung around genuine airheads too, some of them even female, & I can assure you Ms. Wade's no airhead.  I'm not convinced she's not a smart person either, and yeah, when she said "Scalia" somewhat close to "scallion", it was funny, but if she were actually a dumb person it wouldn't've been so humorous.  Same with John Batchelor's always saying "entrempreneur".  I think Ms. Wade's of at least avg. intelligence overall, & may be quite a bit smarter.

ge30542

I heard an old show this week where Art said, when speaking with a guest about dinosaur extinctions, TRY-rannosaurus rex, not once, but several times, and he's not an airhead.  The first time I thought maybe I heard him wrong, and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but 3 or 4 times in a show. C'mon Art.

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