Art Bell

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I think Art's mind is made up, no more commercials.
But I wouldn't mind.

Art is an artist.  An artist must be able to designate his canvas.

[nooryisawesome]

I would prefer no more commercials, myself.  It isn't the commercials themselves, after all they have to make money, it's that it breaks up the flow of the show too much.  If the radio stations want him bad enough for ratings sake then they'll take him on his terms.  That's my thought, at least.

Just starting to listen to the archive as I missed it live.  Art just made a subtle jab and what I think is Snoory's dating service nonsense.  Art rules.

A few minutes of commercials is really not going change the flow much at all, in my opinion. From the radio stations prospective, what is the point of having a show with strong ratings, if you can barely run commercials on it.

[AppealPlay]

Art is an artist.  An artist must be able to designate his canvas.

Yeah, let's just add some happy little aliens here...that's nice.  It's your multiverse.



I guess it depends on how many more minutes of ads the stations want, too.  I think Art has 6 minutes per hour going right now?

[pate]

I'm tired of the real world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1W2UddURXI

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Yeah, let's just add some happy little aliens here...that's nice.  It's your multiverse.



I guess it depends on how many more minutes of ads the stations want, too.  I think Art has 6 minutes per hour going right now?

You have honoured me with your photoshops skills.  Now let us paint paint in the style of Bob Ross in celebration!

[Uncle Duke]

From Art's facebook page

MIDNIGHT IN THE DESERT
We have a decision to make and I think I have made it. We can either serve our listener's and Time Traveler's or Radio Stations but not both because the stations want more Commercials. I am not going to do that. If they want to carry the show we will let them offset it to a later time but we will Not add more Commercial minutes. So what we can give them is ratings because what we are doing is clearly better in every way then anything else out there. For this reason I have said no to several big stations. I could build another big Network but then I would have what I left because it became something I could not live with. Those who do not learn from their mistakes repeat them.
Art

Sounds like Art's all in on this decision.

[nooryisawesome]

Yeah, let's just add some happy little aliens here...that's nice.  It's your multiverse.



I guess it depends on how many more minutes of ads the stations want, too.  I think Art has 6 minutes per hour going right now?

Is this including the news segment?

[transistorundermypillow]

I don't care about additional commercials because as a Time Traveler I don't hear any of them anyway.  For the few listeners that might complain about it being a deal breaker, they can pony up the $8 and STFU.

Art, trust your instincts and go with them. If taking on more ads is beneficial to you in ways other than the obvious ($$$) you might want to consider it. If it somehow chains you to the whims of the corporate giant and in any way erodes the fun aspect of this whole thing then, well, keep it pure.

We're here either way.

[BellBoy]

I don't care about additional commercials because as a Time Traveler I don't hear any of them anyway.  For the few listeners that might complain about it being a deal breaker, they can pony up the $8 and STFU.

Art, trust your instincts and go with them. If taking on more ads is beneficial to you in ways other than the obvious ($$$) you might want to consider it. If it somehow chains you to the whims of the corporate giant and in any way erodes the fun aspect of this whole thing then, well, keep it pure.

We're here either way.

Dittos! Roswells! What they said!

(We'll be there either way)

[AppealPlay]

Yeah, that's the thing that frightens me about bending to the will of terrestrial radio.  Art has gone on at length about how much he disliked working for Premiere and later for SiriusXM (it seems like everyone who works or has worked at SiriusXM says it's an awful company).  I feel like if he started building a radio empire by compromising with Corporate America that he would become unhappy and lose his drive.  That would suck!

Art should do whatever keeps Art happy and making great radio.

[sorefinger]

RELAX no company is going to buy us, I won't allow it. Just a simple switch to direct email, that's all.

Art

Your comment prompts me to repost my own comment I made on June 7:

"I think you made a very smart move by staying away from the corporate broadcasting industry, going it alone, preserving your freedom along the way, taking the road less traveled.  Preserving one's freedom isn't all that easy, as Eric Fromm wrote in his book, "Escape from Freedom."  As he pointed out, it's human nature to join the tribe, to sell one's soul for the empty security promised by the highest bidder, only to discover you are an enslaved disciple of the greedy psychopaths who rule this world."

Every day each of us is tempted to sell out, join the tribe.  But the price has to be high enough, first.  That's why you met with the station in the first place, to see how high of a price they would offer.  But they fell short.  Each of us has our own, unique threshold.  So it's only a matter of the right price coming along before most of us eventually sell out and join the tribe.  But the benefit of selling out is never worth the loss of one's soul.

[Étouffée]

Plucked this, from Art, in the midst of 550+ comments posted on Facebook last night:

Art Bell: I think I have, (made my decision) I built a big commercial Trump tower once, they can have it, I just wanna have fun

[sorefinger]

Terrestrial radio is dead. That's why they are courting Art, as life support to hang on a little bit longer.  It's the 20 minutes of commercials per hour that has turned me off to terrestrial radio.  I simply can't deal with it anymore, & I wouldn't be able to deal with midnight in the desert, either, if it would have more commercials.  Joe Rogan pointed out, we are living in a new time, one where anyone can broadcast from the privacy of their own kitchen table. You don't need 10 million dollars to invest in a radio station, where 20 minutes of commercials is required in order to earn a return on investment. Anyone broadcasting from their kitchen table and inserting 20 minutes of commercials, is just way beyond a greedy, bloodsucking vampire, deserving of the wooden stake that the audience would drive through his heart.

[ziznak]

Mine goes like this:  Art-> Steve Warner-> RCH.

I gotta squeeze a George knapp right before mr warner... sorry bateman but you are still up there in good company

Hold the RCH please... gives me fartburn

[AppealPlay]

Yes!  George Knapp!  I think I like him just because of my bizarre fascination with John Lear and his bullshit fantasy world.

I would be so happy if Art could pull Knapp away from C2C for the MITD weekend edition.

[CornyCrow]

From Art's facebook page

MIDNIGHT IN THE DESERT
We have a decision to make and I think I have made it. We can either serve our listener's and Time Traveler's or Radio Stations but not both because the stations want more Commercials. I am not going to do that. If they want to carry the show we will let them offset it to a later time but we will Not add more Commercial minutes. So what we can give them is ratings because what we are doing is clearly better in every way then anything else out there. For this reason I have said no to several big stations. I could build another big Network but then I would have what I left because it became something I could not live with. Those who do not learn from their mistakes repeat them.
Art

Good for Art, taking the higher ground - also doing it the way it should be done.  This will be a boon to smaller radio stations that have not been snapped up by the monsters yet. 

So we learn from this that beating Dave is not a major goal, don't we? 

[chefist]

Good for Art, taking the higher ground - also doing it the way it should be done.  This will be a boon to smaller radio stations that have not been snapped up by the monsters yet. 

So we learn from this that beating Dave is not a major goal, don't we?

I think there are plenty of indy stations out there for Art, in almost every market...over time even some big stations will come over...KXL did already!

[AppealPlay]

Good for Art, taking the higher ground - also doing it the way it should be done.  This will be a boon to smaller radio stations that have not been snapped up by the monsters yet. 

Damn good point about the smaller stations.  Even after years of conglomerates taking sucking up stations like a vacuum there are still plenty of small stations out there that Art can capitalize.  If I owned an independent station I would definitely give Art a go.

[CornyCrow]

Yeah, that's the thing that frightens me about bending to the will of terrestrial radio.  Art has gone on at length about how much he disliked working for Premiere and later for SiriusXM (it seems like everyone who works or has worked at SiriusXM says it's an awful company).  I feel like if he started building a radio empire by compromising with Corporate America that he would become unhappy and lose his drive.  That would suck!

Art should do whatever keeps Art happy and making great radio.

Yep.  Art must see this as a viable proposition.
Now we know why, in so many previous shows, he made mention to selling your soul.  He was in that struggle for real. 

[AppealPlay]

Now we know why, in so many previous shows, he made mention to selling your soul.  He was in that struggle for real.

Ooooooohhhh!  That's clever!  I didn't make that connection.

[chefist]

I actually think if Art is on a terrestrial station, that being on independents will make his brand more niche and valuable...if it were everywhere it would become diluted, just like C2C...IMO

[scottydawg]

Well on Jorch's show the commercial times wer so predictable I plannned my Pop-N-Pee breaks on patrol around them!
But I am a Time Traveler with Art, so I can pause the show and take a "Pause for the Cause" without missing anything

[albrecht]

While I agree with Art's decision and I think it is a good one not to "sell out" in my opinion the more Art on more vehicles the better. Why couldn't an AM, or FM, station simply put the local commercial instead of the Dark Matter News portion? I don't care because we have Art on podcast, internet stream, and short-wave but it would be nice also to have on AM/FM and get to that audience- on Art's terms though.

[Chronaut]

I’m going to buy a couple of memberships for my friends who haven’t gotten hip yet to Art’s unrivaled interviewing skills and fascinating guests.

Commercial radio is a bad model:  1/3 of your time listening to awful noise is way too high of a price to pay.  And all of the big antennas are broadcasting insane ads for their horrible political shows â€" I’d rather eat my gun than listen to that rubbish.

The subscriber model is the essence of what’s good about capitalism â€" we vote with our dollars to support work we value:  we get great programming with limited commercial interruptions, and Art and Keith and (Redacted) get to focus on the content rather than wrangling with corporate creeps.

It’s up to us to make it work 

[AppealPlay]

While I agree with Art's decision and I think it is a good one not to "sell out" in my opinion the more Art on more vehicles the better. Why couldn't an AM, or FM, station simply put the local commercial instead of the Dark Matter News portion? I don't care because we have Art on podcast, internet stream, and short-wave but it would be nice also to have on AM/FM and get to that audience- on Art's terms though.

Isn't that what they do anyway?  Don't they play commercials over DMN?

[albrecht]

Isn't that what they do anyway?  Don't they play commercials over DMN?

Maybe so, there are no radio affiliates near me (yet.)

[jazmunda]

Tonight's guest info:

First Hour: Gerald Celente (Dave will have a fit over that)

http://artbell.com/tue-aug-25-gerald-celente/

Gerald Celente, a pioneer trend strategist, founded the Trends Research Institute in 1980. He is the author of the national bestseller Trends 2000 and Trend Tracking: Far Better than Megatrends (Warner Books), and publisher of the internationally distributed quarterly Trends Journal.  For more than three decades, Celente has built his reputation as a fearless teller of the truth, an accurate forecaster and an analyst whose expertise crosses many arenas, from economics to politics, from health to science, and more.  Most important, Celente is a pure political atheist. Unencumbered by political dogma, rigid ideology or conventional wisdom, Celente â€" whose motto is “think for yourself” â€" observes and analyzes the current events forming future trends, seeing them for what they are â€" not as what he’d like them to be.

Second Hour: Peter Robbins

http://artbell.com/tue-aug-25-peter-robbins/

Peter Robbins is an investigative writer specializing in the subject of UFOs.  He has been involved in the field for more than 35 years, as a writer, researcher, investigator, lecturer, activist and author.  A regular fixture on radio shows in the US and the UK, Peter has also appeared as a guest on, and been consultant to numerous TV programs and documentaries.  He has also spoken on UFOs, and related subjects, for local, regional, national and international conferences, public service groups, assorted schools, universities, businesses groups, libraries and scientific organizations.  Peter is the co-author of the British best-seller Left at East Gate: A First-Hand Account of the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident, It’s Cover-Up and Investigation, as well as author of Deliberate Deception: A Case of Disinformation in the UFO Research Community.

The last two interviews he did on Coast were with George Knapp. He had not appeared on Coast since 2010. He hasn't appeared with Noory in nearly a decade.

Enjoy the show. I still can't listen and participate live so I will enjoy my Time Traveling privileges.

[albrecht]

Tonight's guest info:

First Hour: Gerald Celente (Dave will have a fit over that)

http://artbell.com/tue-aug-25-gerald-celente/

Second Hour: Peter Robbins

http://artbell.com/tue-aug-25-peter-robbins/

The last two interviews he did on Coast were with George Knapp. He had not appeared on Coast since 2010. He hasn't appeared with Noory in nearly a decade.

Enjoy the show. I still can't listen and participate live so I will enjoy my Time Traveling privileges.

Will be interesting to hear Celente with Art, I'm not a huge fan but I'll bet Art can get out some interesting stories like Gov.Connelly, his lost investment, political experience, in addition to the doom and gloom of the economy and "buy gold." Norry will probably ban him and just use Catherine Austin Fitts for the economic doom and gloom stuff from here on out....

[b_dubb]

I'm with Art on this one. Proud you chose to go off into uncharted territory. 

[indigoo]

At this point in Art's career it should be only about having fun, not expanding and creating an empire to topple others. How many times has Art made a move like the one above and it ends up with him backing out in a big way? Honestly, if people want to hear the show they can find it, we don't need radio anymore. The Internet is all you need. Let's not the same thing happened in the past happen to this program. But, I'm glad to see that we don't really need to worry since Art has made his decision.

I commend that decision Art, keep on rolling!