Art Bell

[FortRock]

These are truly horrific times at the Coast Production Offices! My source in Portland/KEX-land has painted a picture that is dire. The show IS losing stations left and right in mostly educated progressive markets. The show is trying, using desperate measures to create a picture that Art Bell is still somehow involved in the show. They're getting hit by advertisers from the one side, saying the show isn't informationally relevant anymore the way George is running the show. Then they get hit by Clear Channel on the other side for being insensitive to an important constituent audience that Clear Channel depends on for it's other programs throughout the day. The Core Audience created by Art is highly skeptical of Apocolyptic Religious  material, yet throughout the rest of the day CC airs programming supportive of it. The show is now losing money in the format of information that Clear Channel demands! Stations ARE contacting Art Bell (at least the non-Clear Channel ones) about returning to the air! My source tells me Art WILL return to the air, however ALL Clear Channel owned stations are perhaps lost forever to the George Noory Titanic. Art now recognizes that only he and he alone can preserve open-minded, inquiry-based talk on the late night times. Do you remember the advertisements for Sears on Coast? Art has been approached by them as a potiential sponsor, should Art return. Also Art has been approached by Toyota, with an exclusive late-night advertising contract. We're moving, but the pace is unknown. But my source tells me sooner rather than later, and yes C. Crane will stand with Art!

[Marc.Knight]

These are truly horrific times at the Coast Production Offices! My source in Portland/KEX-land has painted a picture that is dire. The show IS losing stations left and right in mostly educated progressive markets. The show is trying, using desperate measures to create a picture that Art Bell is still somehow involved in the show. They're getting hit by advertisers from the one side, saying the show isn't informationally relevant anymore the way George is running the show. Then they get hit by Clear Channel on the other side for being insensitive to an important constituent audience that Clear Channel depends on for it's other programs throughout the day. The Core Audience created by Art is highly skeptical of Apocolyptic Religious  material, yet throughout the rest of the day CC airs programming supportive of it. The show is now losing money in the format of information that Clear Channel demands! Stations ARE contacting Art Bell (at least the non-Clear Channel ones) about returning to the air! My source tells me Art WILL return to the air, however ALL Clear Channel owned stations are perhaps lost forever to the George Noory Titanic. Art now recognizes that only he and he alone can preserve open-minded, inquiry-based talk on the late night times. Do you remember the advertisements for Sears on Coast? Art has been approached by them as a potiential sponsor, should Art return. Also Art has been approached by Toyota, with an exclusive late-night advertising contract. We're moving, but the pace is unknown. But my source tells me sooner rather than later, and yes C. Crane will stand with Art!

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[EvB]

These are truly horrific times at the Coast Production Offices! My source in Portland/KEX-land has painted a picture that is dire. The show IS losing stations left and right in mostly educated progressive markets. The show is trying, using desperate measures to create a picture that Art Bell is still somehow involved in the show. They're getting hit by advertisers from the one side, saying the show isn't informationally relevant anymore the way George is running the show. Then they get hit by Clear Channel on the other side for being insensitive to an important constituent audience that Clear Channel depends on for it's other programs throughout the day. The Core Audience created by Art is highly skeptical of Apocolyptic Religious  material, yet throughout the rest of the day CC airs programming supportive of it. The show is now losing money in the format of information that Clear Channel demands! Stations ARE contacting Art Bell (at least the non-Clear Channel ones) about returning to the air! My source tells me Art WILL return to the air, however ALL Clear Channel owned stations are perhaps lost forever to the George Noory Titanic. Art now recognizes that only he and he alone can preserve open-minded, inquiry-based talk on the late night times. Do you remember the advertisements for Sears on Coast? Art has been approached by them as a potiential sponsor, should Art return. Also Art has been approached by Toyota, with an exclusive late-night advertising contract. We're moving, but the pace is unknown. But my source tells me sooner rather than later, and yes C. Crane will stand with Art!

Impressive bit of insider info there, Fort Rock!  It gives me some hope. Noory can suck all he wants to for all I care, but I am very disturbed by the "dumbing down" of the audience.

This would also explain Art leaving, and not saying much, if anything.  He may need some contractual distance before he can move forward.

[JustOneFix]

Fort Rock-

That is indeed interesting! 

[ArtBellFan]

These are truly horrific times at the Coast Production Offices! My source in Portland/KEX-land has painted a picture that is dire. The show IS losing stations left and right in mostly educated progressive markets. The show is trying, using desperate measures to create a picture that Art Bell is still somehow involved in the show. They're getting hit by advertisers from the one side, saying the show isn't informationally relevant anymore the way George is running the show. Then they get hit by Clear Channel on the other side for being insensitive to an important constituent audience that Clear Channel depends on for it's other programs throughout the day. The Core Audience created by Art is highly skeptical of Apocolyptic Religious  material, yet throughout the rest of the day CC airs programming supportive of it. The show is now losing money in the format of information that Clear Channel demands! Stations ARE contacting Art Bell (at least the non-Clear Channel ones) about returning to the air! My source tells me Art WILL return to the air, however ALL Clear Channel owned stations are perhaps lost forever to the George Noory Titanic. Art now recognizes that only he and he alone can preserve open-minded, inquiry-based talk on the late night times. Do you remember the advertisements for Sears on Coast? Art has been approached by them as a potiential sponsor, should Art return. Also Art has been approached by Toyota, with an exclusive late-night advertising contract. We're moving, but the pace is unknown. But my source tells me sooner rather than later, and yes C. Crane will stand with Art!

All very interesting.....don't know if true or wishful thinking, btw why wouldn't C. Crane stand with Art, he is a part owner in the C. Crane company and has been for years.

I don't listen weekdays at all but just looking at the schedule and the type of gloom and doom guests I see what you're saying, sad what it has become.

Clear Channel is now in the minority as far as affiliates go, no matter what happens to Coast they will still air Rosh on most affiliates whether it's bundled with Coast or not.

The only good news now is we still have George Knapp twice a month, wish it were more.  John B. Wells and Rob Simone aren't too bad either, intelligent and ask good questions.

[Max_TO]

Great bit of info Rock , but how reliable is it ?

[b_dubb]

the late night talk insurrection sounds like it's well underway

[awguy]

These are truly horrific times at the Coast Production Offices! My source in Portland/KEX-land has painted a picture that is dire. The show IS losing stations left and right in mostly educated progressive markets. The show is trying, using desperate measures to create a picture that Art Bell is still somehow involved in the show. They're getting hit by advertisers from the one side, saying the show isn't informationally relevant anymore the way George is running the show. Then they get hit by Clear Channel on the other side for being insensitive to an important constituent audience that Clear Channel depends on for it's other programs throughout the day. The Core Audience created by Art is highly skeptical of Apocolyptic Religious  material, yet throughout the rest of the day CC airs programming supportive of it. The show is now losing money in the format of information that Clear Channel demands! Stations ARE contacting Art Bell (at least the non-Clear Channel ones) about returning to the air! My source tells me Art WILL return to the air, however ALL Clear Channel owned stations are perhaps lost forever to the George Noory Titanic. Art now recognizes that only he and he alone can preserve open-minded, inquiry-based talk on the late night times. Do you remember the advertisements for Sears on Coast? Art has been approached by them as a potiential sponsor, should Art return. Also Art has been approached by Toyota, with an exclusive late-night advertising contract. We're moving, but the pace is unknown. But my source tells me sooner rather than later, and yes C. Crane will stand with Art!

Of course I pray that this is true. I wonder, how dire is the situation at c2c really? Clear Channel just gave Noory a 1 year contract extension (bringing him to 2013) and an additional 5 years is apparently going to be announced in the coming weeks.

But I definitely think money is to be made as long as people THINK that Art is still involved in the show. Only Art's die hard fans have figured out he's gone. I'm sure there are many who still expect Art to be hosting c2c one of these nights. It will take another 6 months before those people even BEGIN to catch on.

And the show is definitely not as sophisticated as it used to be. It's the same guests and the same topics over and over again... no new information is being presented. They've also lost the people who like good, intelligent conversation... even if we don't quite understand what's being said sometimes. Imagine... if you have a mild interest in the paranormal and have never heard c2c before and you stumble upon the program one night, it will be the coolest thing you've ever heard. These are the same people who list "Ghost Hunters" as one of their favourite TV shows.

[DTSguy]

Of course I pray that this is true. I wonder, how dire is the situation at c2c really? Clear Channel just gave Noory a 1 year contract extension (bringing him to 2013) and an additional 5 years is apparently going to be announced in the coming weeks.

But I definitely think money is to be made as long as people THINK that Art is still involved in the show. Only Art's die hard fans have figured out he's gone. I'm sure there are many who still expect Art to be hosting c2c one of these nights. It will take another 6 months before those people even BEGIN to catch on.

And the show is definitely not as sophisticated as it used to be. It's the same guests and the same topics over and over again... no new information is being presented. They've also lost the people who like good, intelligent conversation... even if we don't quite understand what's being said sometimes. Imagine... if you have a mild interest in the paranormal and have never heard c2c before and you stumble upon the program one night, it will be the coolest thing you've ever heard. These are the same people who list "Ghost Hunters" as one of their favourite TV shows.

My $.02 as well- terrible show choices as of late.  Do we really tune in to hear C2C guests comment on the global economic environment for 3 hours?  It seems like when they shoehorn in a "paranormal" guest, they're just throwing a bone to the core audience.

[Marc.Knight]

Of course I pray that this is true. I wonder, how dire is the situation at c2c really? Clear Channel just gave Noory a 1 year contract extension (bringing him to 2013) and an additional 5 years is apparently going to be announced in the coming weeks.

But I definitely think money is to be made as long as people THINK that Art is still involved in the show. Only Art's die hard fans have figured out he's gone. I'm sure there are many who still expect Art to be hosting c2c one of these nights. It will take another 6 months before those people even BEGIN to catch on.

And the show is definitely not as sophisticated as it used to be. It's the same guests and the same topics over and over again... no new information is being presented. They've also lost the people who like good, intelligent conversation... even if we don't quite understand what's being said sometimes. Imagine... if you have a mild interest in the paranormal and have never heard c2c before and you stumble upon the program one night, it will be the coolest thing you've ever heard. These are the same people who list "Ghost Hunters" as one of their favourite TV shows.

Noory has become extra painful to listen to recently, if that is even possible.  The guy truly is a professional shill.  Noory went auto-pilot a long time ago, therefore no one is driving C2C with any heart or real intellect.  Sadly, as long as the listener numbers equate to dollars, the empty suits will keep him at his moustache-stained microphone.

[MV/Liberace!]

These are truly horrific times at the Coast Production Offices! My source in Portland/KEX-land has painted a picture that is dire. The show IS losing stations left and right in mostly educated progressive markets. The show is trying, using desperate measures to create a picture that Art Bell is still somehow involved in the show. They're getting hit by advertisers from the one side, saying the show isn't informationally relevant anymore the way George is running the show. Then they get hit by Clear Channel on the other side for being insensitive to an important constituent audience that Clear Channel depends on for it's other programs throughout the day. The Core Audience created by Art is highly skeptical of Apocolyptic Religious  material, yet throughout the rest of the day CC airs programming supportive of it. The show is now losing money in the format of information that Clear Channel demands! Stations ARE contacting Art Bell (at least the non-Clear Channel ones) about returning to the air! My source tells me Art WILL return to the air, however ALL Clear Channel owned stations are perhaps lost forever to the George Noory Titanic. Art now recognizes that only he and he alone can preserve open-minded, inquiry-based talk on the late night times. Do you remember the advertisements for Sears on Coast? Art has been approached by them as a potiential sponsor, should Art return. Also Art has been approached by Toyota, with an exclusive late-night advertising contract. We're moving, but the pace is unknown. But my source tells me sooner rather than later, and yes C. Crane will stand with Art!

fort rock... regardless of what anyone here thinks about you, your assertions, and/or their validity, i want to point out that you have single handedly kept this thread alive... and for that, sir, i commend you.  this is my second favorite thread on coastgab, and it's hard to imagine coming here without checking it for new posts.

[FortRock]

Thank you Mr. V! The knowledgeable fear that Art is returning was proven by the running of that Art Bell segment! As the NBC daytime soap opera says with the mighty voice of MacDonald Carey " through the hour glass..." George's unquestioned lead has but a 1/4 of a teaspoon of sand left!

[HAL 9000]

Well, about 5 days ago or so, I had some pent-up emotions, and was going to release my "boiling pits of sewage"post.

I have had time to reflect and decided not to post any boiling sewage (as much as I may want). The reason is simple: Intellectual Darwinism.

An allegory if I might: We've all seen those wonderful David Attenborough narrated documentaries, where the Great White shark lurks just off shore, then powerfully swoops in and attacks a seal pup, flailing him into the air, numerous times, playing with his prey until finally, with one final CHOMP, he devours his meal.

Well, I thought it too easy to consume my intellectual prey, and allow Darwinism take its course (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit). Sometimes nature produces oddities for us all to examine and study how NOT to be.

With that then, I must however correct what is factually wrong.

A member here posted what they thought was Art Bell's home address, and suggested we all write to this address, otherwise known as the "Dump in Pahrump."

Here are the FACTS:

I have all of Mr. Bell's legal documents regarding his land ownership in Pahrump. I know when his well was dug; when his racquetball court was installed, when his RV port was placed, etc. I know every improvement made to his property, how much it cost, often who did the work, and the values. So don't fuck with me when it comes to Art Bell FACTS.

Most of Art's property is located in a SUBDIVISION. That's right folks - despite the pictures we've all seen through the years, depicting the "Dump in Pahrump," he lives in a subdivision, with a total of 31 plats - pieces of property - and his holdings are at the north-western edge of this subdivision, so when pics are taken from the front, it appears he's out in the desert, mostly alone. This is an illusion.

Additionally, though most of Art's land parcels are contiguous, he does own a seperate piece of property in the same subdivision that is not connected to his other parcels. Each of the 31 parcels in the subdivision are roughly 0.75-1.4 acres (one exception is a 2.45 acre parcel).

The address given out by this "know-it-all" poster is actually for Art's DETACHED GARAGE. That's right, his fucking detached garage (728 square feet by the way).

So of the 5 properties Art owns in this subdivision, 4 are contiguous, each with its own legal address - and the address given is for his GARAGE, not his house (which is 1703 sq. ft. BTW).

All of his legal papers list Art as the trustee, but the address regarding his legal affairs is a close friend and associate. I will, of course, not be naming this person.

Personally, I think it completely irresponsible for someone to publish Mr. Bell's residential address, even if it is technically wrong. This could only invite unwanted scrutiny. I would suggest we leave Art's friends and associates alone - I'm sure they have enough real-life issues to deal with, without being harangued by a fictional Starship commander, who's genes will thankfully not be passed on to a new generation.

Art Bell was/is a great radio host - but I can't imagine being so devoted to a celebrity. Sure, Patricia Heaton is hot, and I think Dorothy Hamill and I would have a lovely marriage - but I don't obsess over it!

For a brief reminder of Art's eccentricities, here is a link where you can download his announcement of his marriage to his new wife:

http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,2136.msg34482.html#msg34482

It's pretty creepy.

OK, I feel better now.   

[lasertron]

holy balls this thread is long.

[EvB]

holy balls this thread is long.

haha!  PAGES longer than when I first decided to read it - and it was long as crap THEN.

[EvB]

The address given out by this "know-it-all" poster is actually for Art's DETACHED GARAGE. That's right, his fucking detached garage (728 square feet by the way).

My entire APARTMENT is only 810!

[HAL 9000]

My entire APARTMENT is only 810!

Just for the record, his detached garage was built in 1999, measures 26' x 28', and cost $13,519.

Virtually all (but not all) improvements to his property occurred in 1999, including his indoor racquetball court - at $44193.60 - not sure if that included labor.

His attached garage is only 14.5' x 16.0'

My first house was a 3-bedroom ranch with basement at only ~ 950 ft2

[b_dubb]

it's a little scary how much you guys know about Art

[Weirdoradio]

Thoughtful first post, Weirdoradio.  You definitely belong here-- one thing, could you maybe stretch that gray interview to include George Knapp, if he takes over when Noory finally overinflates and bursts?

Anagrammy

Sure, that can be arranged with my gray overlords the fine gentlemen from outerspace.

Also - Fork Rock, you've been pretty vocal in this thread and have endlessly speculated about Art's return. Do you have any tangible proof you can offer to us at this juncture? I'm willing to toe the line for only so long before I feel like it's a lot of hot air and I believe it's getting to that point now.

[FortRock]

To HAL 9000, either your a private investigator, or you work for the Nye County Assessor's Office! How's Tonopah these days? By the way don't let our little friend deny you your act of inquiry with your letter to Art!

To Weirdoradio, your skepticism is keen! Your new here, and I will not ask you to refresh yourself on the truth of the lack of "Manila Throat" here. It's been gripped by the silence of Art, and the great news he has for all of us SOON!

[EvB]

What difference does it really make? Art will do something new we enjoy - or he won't. Fort Rock's predictions will prove true - or not - or partly. HAL 9000 has the real poop - or not. Meanwhile - speculation is fun but there isn't anything to be done about it but wait and see.


Awww hell - forgive the "Mommy" tone.  DEBATE AWAY!

[Marc.Knight]

What difference does it really make? Art will do something new we enjoy - or he won't. Fort Rock's predictions will prove true - or not - or partly. HAL 9000 has the real poop - or not. Meanwhile - speculation is fun but there isn't anything to be done about it but wait and see.


Awww hell - forgive the "Mommy" tone.  DEBATE AWAY!

Or not.

[EvB]

Or not.

Mwahahahaaa!  I've missed playing with you.

[guildnavigator]

it's a little scary how much you guys know about Art

I was thinking a similar thought as I updated myself on the last week of posts in this thread.

HAL, you more and more prove that you have chosen a fitting username with each post!

[Marc.Knight]

Mwahahahaaa!  I've missed playing with you.

Mwahahahaaa!


So much fun.


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,1495.msg21910.html#msg21910

[aldousburbank]

As to the 4th (or 5th?) coming...
Worst case scenario, Ft.Rock's intel is accurate and Art will be hosting the Dec. 22nd 2012 Coast show, live, unscreened calls.  George would still do his prophesied, contractually obligated, neeto, Dec 21st show, but would scoot butt for Bell the next night.  This long-off scenario would keep fools like me ok with running c2c on the iron lung until then.  Radio suits know this.

Best case scenario, Art whips out a shortwave/streaming/podcast/satellite weekend show, or possibly 13 full moons a year.  That would be fine with me.

[MV/Liberace!]

Mwahahahaaa!


So much fun.


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,1495.msg21910.html#msg21910

haaaaaaaaaahahahahha

[Fly By Night]

Finding out information on Art's Pad in Nevada is easy, tons of public information on it. You can even take that little yellow guy on Google Maps and look right at his front door.
Now who here is so over obsessed that they can find Art's flat in Manlia?
After that who can find me the trailer house that George lives in outside a St. Louis Taco Bell?

Fort Rock I hope you are right about Art coming back. I fear the longer he is off the air the more complacent he will become and the more he will find sole satisfaction with his HAM.

[ourobouros2k2]

His address is listed on the amateur radio call letter search function (by name also) for both his amateur licenses (american and philippine calls) on QRZ.COM. Not sure if it is accurate to this date, but he does list an address in the philippines. Do a call lookup on 4f1ab. If you are that interested, lol.

here is the pic, but I won't post the actual address despite public record...

[Fly By Night]

Very nice, now find me George Snoory's trailer park