George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[Jojo]

The truth always saves.

My cat had to be euthanized Thursday morning.  She was about 19.

[Dr. MD MD]

My cat had to be euthanized Thursday morning.  She was about 19.

Sorry to hear. My condolences.

[Jojo]

Open air treatments seemed to be the most effective method of dealing with the Spanish Flu.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504358/

I like that source and I agree that fresh air heals.

[Jojo]

Sorry to hear. My condolences.

Thanks.  The end came faster and about a year sooner than I expected.  She was a wonderful little kitty and a great cat.  She had a lot of special needs.  I had to work hard to take care of her and protect her.  All my prior cats were able to take care of themselves, but this one just had a lot of glitches.

[Dr. MD MD]

Thanks.  The end came faster and about a year sooner than I expected.  She was a wonderful little kitty and a great cat.  She had a lot of special needs.  I had to work hard to take care of her and protect her.  All my prior cats were able to take care of themselves, but this one just had a lot of glitches.

Pure bred?

[Jojo]

Pure bred?

Not at all.  Someone declawed her before I knew her.  Between that and a hip birth defect and a very strong personality, she had a tendency to have all sorts of little fiascos which I had to rescue her from...  things like suffocating on a dust bunny, eating a rubber band (that was a Hellish week), etc...  But very lovable.

[Dr. MD MD]

Not at all.  Someone declawed her before I knew her.  Between that and a hip birth defect and a very strong personality, she had a tendency to have all sorts of little fiascos which I had to rescue her from...  things like suffocating on a dust bunny, eating a rubber band (that was a Hellish week), etc...  But very lovable.

I only asked because pure breeds usually have more health problems.

[Jojo]

I only asked because pure breeds usually have more health problems.

Yes, I've heard that.  She was pure bred brat!

[Jojo]

There is political expediency in not performing large scale covid antibody testing- the resulting low mortality rate would make this social/economic shutdown appear to be a self-sabotaging hoax.

+1.

[NoMoreNoory]

Not a good stat. How many Commie deaths in Nam (and associated 'unofficial' countries) to properly compare.

I was comparing American deaths, so why would I include non-American, or as you put it ‘Commie’, deaths?

[NoMoreNoory]

So, you’re saying that more people also die from the seasonal flu than died in Vietnam?

Unconvincing and pathetic.

There is no fixed figure for flu fatalities. Year on year it varies. The CDC suggests between twelve and sixty thousand during the ‘season’ (October - March). The CDC figure for 18-19 is 34,000. The numbers for this season won’t be known for some months.
Perhaps the significant comparison is the fatality rate. Around 0.1% for flu: at least 1% for Covid-19, and perhaps far higher than that. Look at age groups. The fatality rate for flu in the 65+ age group is 0.83%: early numbers for Covid are   2.7% in the 65-74 bracket, rising to over 10% for those 85+. Consider also that these Covid numbers are in the context of lockdown. You might want to consider what they might be otherwise.

Finally, I’m simply comparing numbers, in the same way that it is pointed out the 1918-20 pandemic killed more people (we will certainly never know the true number: estimates vary between 50 and 100 million) than both World Wars combined. I’m at a loss to see how that is pathetic.

[Dr. MD MD]

There is no fixed figure for flu fatalities. Year on year it varies. The CDC suggests between twelve and sixty thousand during the ‘season’ (October - March). The CDC figure for 18-19 is 34,000. The numbers for this season won’t be known for some months.
Perhaps the significant comparison is the fatality rate. Around 0.1% for flu: at least 1% for Covid-19, and perhaps far higher than that. Look at age groups. The fatality rate for flu in the 65+ age group is 0.83%: early numbers for Covid are   2.7% in the 65-74 bracket, rising to over 10% for those 85+. Consider also that these Covid numbers are in the context of lockdown. You might want to consider what they might be otherwise.

Finally, I’m simply comparing numbers, in the same way that it is pointed out the 1918-20 pandemic killed more people (we will certainly never know the true number: estimates vary between 50 and 100 million) than both World Wars combined. I’m at a loss to see how that is pathetic.

Because you’re reaching just to serve a political ideology during a “pandemic.” I could’ve used the word disgusting as well.

[NoMoreNoory]

Because you’re reaching just to serve a political ideology during a “pandemic.” I could’ve used the word disgusting as well.

I have no idea how you read a political ideology into a set of numbers, or why you deem them worthy of epithets. They’re numbers. But keep your head in your spooky little fact-free conspiracy bubble. You’re probably safer there. And you and Joorch can keep on whistling past the graveyard as you tell yourselves it’s no worse than the flu.

[expat]

Because you’re reaching just to serve a political ideology during a “pandemic.”

This is getting ridiculous. It is not just the Democratic Party of the United States of America that is advocating cautionâ€"isolation, social distancing, etc. It's THE ENTIRE FUCKING CIVILIZED WORLD. You think only Fox News has the real story, and the entire fucking civilized world is wrong, huh?

[Dr. MD MD]

This is getting ridiculous. It is not just the Democratic Party of the United States of America that is advocating cautionâ€"isolation, social distancing, etc. It's THE ENTIRE FUCKING CIVILIZED WORLD. You think only Fox News has the real story, and the entire fucking civilized world is wrong, huh?

If they all decided to jump off a mountain would you join them just based on the consensus?

Yes, according to the numbers the whole world overreacted to this. I suspect it’s to serve a globalist agenda.

[Dr. MD MD]

I have no idea how you read a political ideology into a set of numbers, or why you deem them worthy of epithets. They’re numbers. But keep your head in your spooky little fact-free conspiracy bubble. You’re probably safer there. And you and Joorch can keep on whistling past the graveyard as you tell yourselves it’s no worse than the flu.

The numbers are showing that it’s no worse than the flu (which can be pretty bad for some) so you’re the one making something more out of this than there actually is. I’d say that makes you the “theorist.” You’re obviously doing it to serve your political agenda because whenever you’re presented with facts to the counter rather than thinking about it and reconsidering you get desperate and go into your ad hominem name calling. Obvious signs of defeat are obvious. Weak shit. : :

[NoMoreNoory]

The numbers are showing that it’s no worse than the flu (which can be pretty bad for some) so you’re the one making something more out of this than there actually is. I’d say that makes you the “theorist.” You’re obviously doing it to serve your political agenda because whenever you’re presented with facts to the counter rather than thinking about it and reconsidering you get desperate and go into your ad hominem name calling. Obvious signs of defeat are obvious. Weak shit. : :

I have not mentioned politics of any stripe, nor engaged in any ‘ad hominem’ attacks. I simply maintain that if the figures say that 30,000 people in an open society died of the flu in a six month period 2018-19, and 50,000 people have died of the novel virus in a few months in a locked-down society this year, those figures mean you have to draw a conclusion diametrically opposed to yours. Like the man said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions: no-one is entitled to their own facts.

The only ‘globalist agenda’ here is keeping well and staying the fuck alive.

[albrecht]

I have not mentioned politics of any stripe, nor engaged in any ‘ad hominem’ attacks. I simply maintain that if the figures say that 30,000 people in an open society died of the flu in a six month period 2018-19, and 50,000 people have died of the novel virus in a few months in a locked-down society this year, those figures mean you have to draw a conclusion diametrically opposed to yours. Like the man said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions: no-one is entitled to their own facts.

The only ‘globalist agenda’ here is keeping well and staying the fuck alive.

Memento mori.

But maybe some toomeric and lots of eggs can extend the eventual? 

[Dr. MD MD]

I have not mentioned politics of any stripe, nor engaged in any ‘ad hominem’ attacks. I simply maintain that if the figures say that 30,000 people in an open society died of the flu in a six month period 2018-19, and 50,000 people have died of the novel virus in a few months in a locked-down society this year, those figures mean you have to draw a conclusion diametrically opposed to yours. Like the man said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions: no-one is entitled to their own facts.

The only ‘globalist agenda’ here is keeping well and staying the fuck alive.

Figures from just two years ago said 80000 died from the seasonal flu in the USA. That’s less than have died from this virus this season. We didn’t lock down society then. Those are facts. Try dealing with them for a change.

[ItsOver]

Oh, Jojo! :

That’s exactly my point, my dear lady. More US citizens die from the seasonal flu every year than died in Vietnam. Almost makes one reconsider the merits of that war.

Yep.  The media really played their game there, with The Nightly Body Count.



Sound familiar?  The nightly news should just become daily flu body counts, daily car crash body counts, daily suicide body counts, daily climate change body counts, daily Chicago South Side body counts... just decide what the agenda needs to be and go with it.

[ItsOver]

California does not include people over 65 in their flu stats.  No kidding here.

I'm shocked, considering Kalifornia is the state that's determined living causes cancer.

[Dateline]

Very nice work.

On behalf of all at "Loser Land"  we look forward to seeing you.  Thank you and stay safe. 

[NoMoreNoory]

Figures from just two years ago said 80000 died from the seasonal flu in the USA. That’s less than have died from this virus this season. We didn’t lock down society then. Those are facts. Try dealing with them for a change.

An exceptionally bad year. Partial shutdown in some places: schools closed etc.
2011-12: 12,000. As I said: variable.

I’m not attempting to downplay the seriousness of flu year on year, but using it to pretend this pandemic is not serious is ridiculous. It is not a pandemic in inverted commas, it is by the accepted definition of the word a pandemic.

There’s truth in what you say, IO. I’ve pointed out before that, statistically, Americans are more likely to die in their bathtubs than at the hands of international terrorists but nobody has suggested investing squillions in a Department Of Bathtub Security. You may very well describe vehicular deaths as a pandemic, but Chicago South Side shootings don’t infect people in 150+ countries.

[Dr. MD MD]

An exceptionally bad year. Partial shutdown in some places: schools closed etc.
2011-12: 12,000. As I said: variable.

I’m not attempting to downplay the seriousness of flu year on year, but using it to pretend this pandemic is not serious is ridiculous. It is not a pandemic in inverted commas, it is by the accepted definition of the word a pandemic.

There’s truth in what you say, IO. I’ve pointed out before that, statistically, Americans are more likely to die in their bathtubs than at the hands of international terrorists but nobody has suggested investing squillions in a Department Of Bathtub Security. You may very well describe vehicular deaths as a pandemic, but Chicago South Side shootings don’t infect people in 150+ countries.

I’m still waiting for you to explain how’s it’s any worse than the common seasonal flu because by this standard we should’ve been declaring a pandemic every year. I’m sure that’s the plan going forward now though. Let me know when you begin building the domed cities.

[ItsOver]

..., but Chicago South Side shootings don’t infect people in 150+ countries.

That's not my point.  The mass media, in particular, rather than just reporting the news, have an agenda, in which they pick, choose, and manipulate information in emotional attempts to support their agenda.  We see this constantly, no matter the topic.  How many reports have you seen with differing viewpoints on "climate change" on CNN on a regular basis?  How many reports have you seen on Fox News differing with the Trump administration?  Some, but the agenda is one of general support.  We don't get objective reporting, with multiple viewpoints permitted, and in depth, thoughtful analysis.  The majority of the time, everything is reported and colored in support of managed agendas, no matter the topic, usually on an emotional basis.  Unfortunately, we either get propaganda or moronic pap they think is suitable fodder for the unwashed masses.  Now, go wash your hands, and please don't touch your face.

[NoMoreNoory]

Now here we are in complete agreement. I am a US immigrant from the UK, and I have long argued that America badly needs a BBC, which fulfills exactly the role you describe. You know it is doing its job when Labour governments accuse it of having a right wing agenda and the Tories accuse it of having a liberal bias.
On my very regular visits here from the late 80s onwards, I felt CNN was the closest America had to Auntie Beeb. It was news and reporter based. That has changed. I think in response to Fox it has allowed itself to drift and has become a station of ‘shows’, each with its own celebrity presenter. It’s ‘Breaking News’ agenda sometimes remains unchanged throughout the day. It’s lazy. Sometimes Fox during the day carries a wider spread of news, though its evening hours are hi-jacked by the propagandists and Fox And Friends is just ludicrous. There is a dearth of serious journalism on display across America’s news channels these days.
Some of this is a bleed-over from radio and the rise and domination of conservative radio since the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine. And I would not wish a liberal dominance either.
It’s weird because Sky News in the UK is Murdoch owned but does not have the right-wing bias you might expect. It much more models itself on the BBC, I think because they know that’s what the British public expect and demand.
America’s political ghettoisation I feel is a reflection of this media split. The sooner this country has a truly independent news organization, the better.

[Dateline]

Richard Syrett is at the helm tonight with a ufology and paranormal show.  I found his voice calming after all of the uncertainty in the world at the moment. 

[Lilith]

Always good to hear Richard Syrett.

[Dr. MD MD]

Always good to hear Richard Syrett.

He’s the best C2C host right now...even better than Knapp.

[Toad]

Now here we are in complete agreement. I am a US immigrant from the UK, and I have long argued that America badly needs a BBC, which fulfills exactly the role you describe. You know it is doing its job when Labour governments accuse it of having a right wing agenda and the Tories accuse it of having a liberal bias.
On my very regular visits here from the late 80s onwards, I felt CNN was the closest America had to Auntie Beeb. It was news and reporter based. That has changed. I think in response to Fox it has allowed itself to drift and has become a station of ‘shows’, each with its own celebrity presenter. It’s ‘Breaking News’ agenda sometimes remains unchanged throughout the day. It’s lazy. Sometimes Fox during the day carries a wider spread of news, though its evening hours are hi-jacked by the propagandists and Fox And Friends is just ludicrous. There is a dearth of serious journalism on display across America’s news channels these days.
Some of this is a bleed-over from radio and the rise and domination of conservative radio since the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine. And I would not wish a liberal dominance either.
It’s weird because Sky News in the UK is Murdoch owned but does not have the right-wing bias you might expect. It much more models itself on the BBC, I think because they know that’s what the British public expect and demand.
America’s political ghettoisation I feel is a reflection of this media split. The sooner this country has a truly independent news organization, the better.

Doesn't NPR fit that definition?