George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[natashasquirrel]

Natasha, there were so many posts that I nearly missed you. Welcome! Welcome fellow rodentia! I happen to know a good dentist if you want to chat privately.

Thanks for posting the link; I heard just what you wrote and laughed like crazy. Apparently the guy was in a mind f**k situation for a very long time. But the topper was GN saying that "Art is no longer with us."

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My God, what a terrible thing to say! Then again, GN is so lacking in intelligence and/or awareness that clearly he does not know what common euphemisms mean. Jeez.

Thank you for the warm welcome, my furry friend!
Yes, last night was full to the brim with little Georgisms; he never disappoints.
What gets me is how all of the callers (and many of the guests) just fawn all over the guy.
What is Tommy saying to these people to have them groveling and licking the shiny boots of Georgie-Boy?

And his recent fascination with "text messages"
WTF? Did he just trade in his flip phone?

[ziznak]

headphones + George Noory = suicide

[ItsOver]

headphones + George Noory = suicide

Do they make Noory-cancelling headphones or will just the regular noise-cancelling ones blank him out?

[ziznak]

you need bullets for that effect

[ItsOver]

...that or pizza rolls.

[Sardondi]

Sorry I'm late with this. After viewing the tease of Noory's new Internet TV show, I think I'm done here. I've come to realize that Noory doesn't really suck, he's just pathetic. He must be just aware enough to know that he isn't any good at his life's work, and I can't imagine a worse feeling.

Has he destroyed the show that Art built ? Yes, but with a lot of help from the network and his production staff, and from the listeners and callers who heap praise upon him when they must know he's incompetent.

I think that Noory is doing the best he can. He doesn't have research or show prep or even the most casual reading of the guests' books in him. He doesn't ignore suggestions from us and others about how to make the show better; he doesn't understand them.

All that said, the whole 'George Noory Sucks' thing is starting to feel a lot like bullying to me. I've never been on the bully end of that transaction before, and I find it doesn't agree with me and my image of who I am.

I could have written this precise post at least twice before now. I know exactly what you're talking about: sometimes I felt like I was making fun of the special-needs kid, and it made me feel mean and petty. I based those thoughts on the same conclusions you make. But I was wrong then, just as you, with all due respect, are wrong now when you think George simply can't help it.

Except George isn't a kid, or special needs, or even trying very hard. George simply quit trying. Did he get lazy and contented? Maybe, but I don't think so. I think George simply cannot respect himself for what he does. That will wear you down, you know. Unless you feel challenged; unless you feel like you're doing something with at least some tiny bit of worth and nobility to it, you're eventually going to do something, whether consciously or not, which reveals that is self-defeating, because it will reveal your own self-loathing.

So what does George feel contempt for himself about? I think it's that he's the guy who accepts anything from anybody, anytime, anyplace. "George, I feel like earthworms created the internal combustion engine" "Well, could be. Who am I to say?" George made a choice - that he was going to be the guy everyone loved, and that meant he would make no one feel bad about themselves, even if they were plainly morons. There's not necessarily anything laudable about never hurting others' feelings: if you're doing it to garner a lot of audience approval, (as I think George was) then it's just as cheesy a tactic as being a shock jock.

So now it's been 10 years of George giving it this fake "I'll accept anything" schtick, and he hates himself. He's been mailing it in for years. He just doesn't try any more. In fact subconsciously he's trying to sabotage his own show, because he feels he's a phony. As of course he is.

Now about this stuff that he's "doing the best he can." No he's not. Even if we ignore the possibility that he is subconsciously contemptuous of his own performance and is trying to punish himself, it's clear he's not trying hard. No adult with an IQ within shouting distance of low-normal fails to improve with application and practice. Everyone gets better when they give a damn enough to try. Not only has George not improved, he's gotten worse. George's problem isn't lack of intelligence, it's lack of spine and guts. And a lack of regard for his the audience he claims to love so much. Bullshit. If that were so he would have sucked it up long ago.

You've fallen into a trap that intelligent people sometimes fall into for reasons which at first might seem sympathetic, but at heart are really a little arrogant. See, some smart people feel they are so much smarter than the average bear that it's "just not fair". And that ain't so, 'cause very, very few people are really as smart as they think they are. Still, some smart folks feel a little guilty about whatever success they may have achieved, because they've been sold the false idea that they somehow have an unfair advantage, and that their success means something has been taken out of the mouths of the not-as-smart. Which is sheer lunacy spread by people who can see a benefit to themselves if the guilt-stricken start giving stuff away to assuage their false guilt. See how it's a little on the vain side to think we're so smart that people with less intellect just can't compete?

What is overlooked is that there are gazillions of failures with genius-level IQs. Intellect is nothing without effort, and the more effort is given, the more success is possible. While success can be achieved by effort alone, intellect will never attain success without the application of effort. So clearly effort is the more vital quality. All this misplaced sympathy is just our natural decency...and maybe a little vanity...trying to find a way to explain Noory to our intellect. It's hard to do with logic, so now our emotions are taking over.

So what George Noory is missing isn't intellect; it's, well, the integrity which makes us try our best. Now that doesn't mean that if he did suddenly try hard he's be guaranteed to be a success: there are countless variables and imponderables involved. It just means that he's not doing his best, and he could do better.

So stop feeling sorry for Noory. He somehow was smart enough to get the premier nighttime radio-talk-show gig in America. Which makes him smarter than any of us.

[Nucky Nolan]

Sorry I'm late with this. After viewing the tease of Noory's new Internet TV show, I think I'm done here. I've come to realize that Noory doesn't really suck, he's just pathetic. He must be just aware enough to know that he isn't any good at his life's work, and I can't imagine a worse feeling.

Has he destroyed the show that Art built ? Yes, but with a lot of help from the network and his production staff, and from the listeners and callers who heap praise upon him when they must know he's incompetent.

I think that Noory is doing the best he can. He doesn't have research or show prep or even the most casual reading of the guests' books in him. He doesn't ignore suggestions from us and others about how to make the show better; he doesn't understand them.

All that said, the whole 'George Noory Sucks' thing is starting to feel a lot like bullying to me. I've never been on the bully end of that transaction before, and I find it doesn't agree with me and my image of who I am.

I admire your attitude and conscientiousness. FWIW, I think that it comes from a good place. There's nothing condescending about it. You're doing the right thing, as you see it. There's a paradox, though. Your intention is great, as it expresses your genuine compassion and decency. However, it could make George feel worse than a regular joke would. Let's use an example. Say that Coast Gab members zing each other on a routine basis. It's your turn to be a target of the barbs and "insults". MV posts a message that tells the members to lay off Steve during these games because "he's feeble-minded". I would rather be teased than protected, but I would join you if George was mentally disabled.

[Nebraska888]

That's good to hear. You likely go back and forth with your conscience at times because you're not a "hater", but you're fed up with the constant incompetence. You feel worse when you realize how good the show *could* be with a new host, and you now can't even listen to the show when Noory hosts it. Am I close?

Yep......you're more than close.......you perfectly expressed my thoughts!

[popple]

No to another decade of Jorch.

[Mels-hole1984]

This pretty much sums up my Noory experience...Rammstein - Du Hast

[Doomed]

Ever listen to George on headphones? I used to always listen on a portable radio. I never grasped the full extent of George's horrible pronunciation until I started listening to some of the MP3s posted and Youtubes linked to on this forum. The poll in this thread really is true, he can't pronounce anything. There are multiple flubs in literally every sentence. They may be minor flubs, but he is always making them.

Though I listened to Coast for years, and I was used to Bells voice, when noory arrived I didnt really notice anything unusual with his delivery. It was what he said that floored me. Sometime ago, the local AM station that carried C2C, switched formats. Another company picked them up and dropped it into the lineup. Only this time Coast was on FM stereo. Trust me when I say, George is capable of toasting a whole sentence. With such a clear signal George simply cannot slip even the tiniest flub past me now. I must admit, his slush mouth does add a new dynamic to the program. Still cant stand him, but at least there's the comic relief as he reads commercial copy.

[onan]

I sometimes don't know why I pick the socks I wear. I sometimes don't care if I get a burger or Italian for lunch. But I damn sure care about the work I do. Noory doesn't, not by any measure I have looked at. Whether one was born on third base or not has little to do with this conversation. Perhaps the terms used here are (at first glance) somewhat harsh. So what? Noory chose to sit in a chair that could expose him to a great deal of criticism and guess what.

I don't wish any harm to the man. That doesn't exclude criticism or sarcasm. He sucks as an interviewer. His employers must be aware but for whatever reason allow his less than performance. I can only conclude that the overall subject matter is of no concern to them. That offends me. More so than all the name calling posted here. So let the name calling continue.

If any post here has caused noory to cry, let him get some therapy. Maybe that will open his eyes to his less than performance... probably not.

[Scully]

... So stop feeling sorry for Noory. He somehow was smart enough to get the premier nighttime radio-talk-show gig in America. Which makes him smarter than any of us.

,,, Say that Coast Gab members zing each other on a routine basis. It's your turn to be a target of the barbs and "insults". MV posts a message that tells the members to lay off Steve during these games because "he's feeble-minded". I would rather be teased than protected, but I would join you if George was mentally disabled.

... He sucks as an interviewer. His employers must be aware but for whatever reason allow his less than performance. I can only conclude that the overall subject matter is of no concern to them. That offends me. More so than all the name calling posted here. So let the name calling continue.

If any post here has caused noory to cry, let him get some therapy. Maybe that will open his eyes to his less than performance... probably not.

Thanks, Guys, for the above posts.  Like Stevesh, I sometimes feel guilty about being so down on George.  If he weren't so damn arrogant, I would feel even worse. You've made good sense in what you've said, and you're right.  GNS

[Juan]

All that said, the whole 'George Noory Sucks' thing is starting to feel a lot like bullying to me. I've never been on the bully end of that transaction before, and I find it doesn't agree with me and my image of who I am.

I've felt that at times, too, but then I thought about it.  There are lots and lots of people out there who are competent and who can't get jobs.  There are a lot of other people who start in broadcasting as no nothings, work hard, and get better.  Journalism and broadcasting are crafts, and like any craft, they require practice with intention. sNoory shows no effort, other than showing up every day.

I think our pointing out his errors is tough love - love for a once great show.  I don't think it is bullying.  Hope you stick around.

[Mels-hole1984]

@ Sardondi,Nucky,Doomed and Ufo Fill...Well said my friends...well said...

[DAE]

Bullying is against my nature as well.   And actually I bite my own tongue many times due to this; yesterday I was going to make another photoshop of George which was slightly obscene, but something inside me felt it was just too wrong.  I felt like I am crossing the line.  In other words, I think we just need to have discernment and not go overboard.  When I contemplate my frustrations with George though,  it feels more like being defensive though.  I feel sort of bullied by Coast to Coast AM as they continue to ignore these serious George-issues that us former die-hard Coast fans keep discussing.  So any disgruntled feelings I have are as the result of the continued ignorance of Coast.  Add to that the mind boggling shock of how easy it would be to resolve these issues... well it adds to the frustrations.  There is ZERO excuse for a host, for example, to constantly jump from topic to topic too fast during an interview and totally forget the guest hasn't fully answered the first topic question.  I've tried to think 'unconditional love' for George, but each time it happens I keep wanting to say "F**k George, you forgot to let them finish what they were saying!!".   Then each of our beefs with George eat away at us to the point of needing to let off steam here.  It's hard not to cross the line sometimes when Coast to Coast AM is basically giving the finger to all of us who brought Coast to it's original popularity. 

[ItsOver]

If Noory can't take the heat, he can get out of the kitchen.  As another host says, "More Patton, less patent leather."

[McPhallus]

Noory/PremRat are the Goliath and we're the little Davids.  He has a huge national platform on which he can do and say whatever he likes.  We're limited to a relatively obscure Web site on the Internet on which we post anonymously.  Noory is who he is at the end of the day; no regard for the work he does or in considering sincere, respectful feedback.  He's just an old man running out the clock until retirement. 

As long as we don't stalk him or make threats, we're free to lampoon him all he want.  He's a public figure and has willingly put himself in that position. He's earned every bit of contempt he's received.

Bullying is against my nature as well.   And actually I bite my own tongue many times due to this; yesterday I was going to make another photoshop of George which was slightly obscene, but something inside me felt it was just too wrong.  I felt like I am crossing the line.  In other words, I think we just need to have discernment and not go overboard.  When I contemplate my frustrations with George though,  it feels more like being defensive though.  I feel sort of bullied by Coast to Coast AM as they continue to ignore these serious George-issues that us former die-hard Coast fans keep discussing.  So any disgruntled feelings I have are as the result of the continued ignorance of Coast.  Add to that the mind boggling shock of how easy it would be to resolve these issues... well it adds to the frustrations.  There is ZERO excuse for a host, for example, to constantly jump from topic to topic too fast during an interview and totally forget the guest hasn't fully answered the first topic question.  I've tried to think 'unconditional love' for George, but each time it happens I keep wanting to say "F**k George, you forgot to let them finish what they were saying!!".   Then each of our beefs with George eat away at us to the point of needing to let off steam here.  It's hard not to cross the line sometimes when Coast to Coast AM is basically giving the finger to all of us who brought Coast to it's original popularity.

[NoMoreNoory]

He's earned every bit of contempt he's received.

Hear, hear!

[PB the Deplorable]

I don't think it's bullying.  It's calling him out, it's documenting his suckage, it's comiserating.

The part in that clip of his new show when the guest mentions 'dog' and Noory stats barking, or the other night someone said a 'Virginia' called in with a sad story and Noory ended it with 'yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus' are just sad, like he's running on fumes at this point.

[Nucky Nolan]

Thanks, Guys, for the above posts.  Like Stevesh, I sometimes feel guilty about being so down on George.  If he weren't so damn arrogant, I would feel even worse. You've made good sense in what you've said, and you're right.  GNS

I sometimes think that he's pulling a very long "Sacha Baron Cohen" on us. If so, he's brilliant.

[Nucky Nolan]

@ Sardondi,Nucky,Doomed and Ufo Fill...Well said my friends...well said...

Thanks, Mel. What do you think about it?

[Nucky Nolan]

Then each of our beefs with George eat away at us to the point of needing to let off steam here.  It's hard not to cross the line sometimes when Coast to Coast AM is basically giving the finger to all of us who brought Coast to it's original popularity.

That's the perfect way to describe it (forum motto?). We've gotten a thousand aviaries of flipped birds.

[McPhallus]

If Noory can't take the heat, he can get out of the kitchen.  As another host says, "More Patton, less patent leather."

<cue Judas Priest bumper music>

Lol

[Nucky Nolan]

Noory/PremRat are the Goliath and we're the little Davids.  He has a huge national platform on which he can do and say whatever he likes.  We're limited to a relatively obscure Web site on the Internet on which we post anonymously.  Noory is who he is at the end of the day; no regard for the work he does or in considering sincere, respectful feedback.  He's just an old man running out the clock until retirement. 

As long as we don't stalk him or make threats, we're free to lampoon him all he want.  He's a public figure and has willingly put himself in that position. He's earned every bit of contempt he's received.

It's not like he's the host of a local cable access show. Oh, wait. Scratch that. It's not like they have the same exposure and salary.

[Nucky Nolan]

I don't think it's bullying.  It's calling him out, it's documenting his suckage, it's comiserating.

The part in that clip of his new show when the guest mentions 'dog' and Noory stats barking, or the other night someone said a 'Virginia' called in with a sad story and Noory ended it with 'yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus' are just sad, like he's running on fumes at this point.

What if the Broncos replaced Peyton Manning with Justin Bieber? Would the fans be "haters" if they complained? We're mostly documenting things that Noory did and said. Let the record stand on its own.

[Jasmine]

Well, I personally feel NO remorse or guilt about slam dunking Curious George. For Christ sake, he's an arrogant, self-centered, idiotic misanthrope who asks for every delicious and scathing insult thrown at him from this forum. He puts himself out there, night after night, and insults the intelligence of the minority who "get it", while hood winking and patronizing the dumbed down listeners and callers. Why the damn guilt? Did certain forum members here convert to Catholicism? I was raised one, and let me tell ya, it took me years to eradicate the guilt factor from my hard drive.

And as far as these damn pizza rolls go, I got news for Noory. I'm calling total BS on his "unforshunit ackshident". I have fed my three month old son nothing but piping hot pizza rolls since day one. That's all he's been fed, well, aside from KFC Double Downs on a couple of occasions. Those pizza rolls went straight from the microwave - nuked to the max - to his mouth. And my son has not ONCE whimpered or cried out from the hot filling. So can 62 year old George explain how a three month old can handle scorching hot pizza rolls, and HE can't?

Simply absurd. Completely and utterly outlandish.

[ItsOver]

......So can 62 year old George explain how a three month old can handle scorching hot pizza rolls, and HE can't? ......

Because a 3 month old is more of a man than Jorch?

[McPhallus]

Perhaps George confused the microwave with the regular oven and made a terrible miscalculation when setting the timer, i.e., ten minutes in the microwave instead of the recommended 3.  In his haste (wouldn't want to be late for the show prep, you know), he failed to notice the blackened, steaming remains of a pizza roll before popping it in his mouth.  And the rest is history!

Well, I personally feel NO remorse or guilt about slam dunking Curious George. For Christ sake, he's an arrogant, self-centered, idiotic misanthrope who asks for every delicious and scathing insult thrown at him from this forum. He puts himself out there, night after night, and insults the intelligence of the minority who "get it", while hood winking and patronizing the dumbed down listeners and callers. Why the damn guilt? Did certain forum members here convert to Catholicism? I was raised one, and let me tell ya, it took me years to eradicate the guilt factor from my hard drive.

And as far as these damn pizza rolls go, I got news for Noory. I'm calling total BS on his "unforshunit ackshident". I have fed my three month old son nothing but piping hot pizza rolls since day one. That's all he's been fed, well, aside from KFC Double Downs on a couple of occasions. Those pizza rolls went straight from the microwave - nuked to the max - to his mouth. And my son has not ONCE whimpered or cried out from the hot filling. So can 62 year old George explain how a three month old can handle scorching hot pizza rolls, and HE can't?

Simply absurd. Completely and utterly outlandish.

[ItsOver]

Didn't his aunt have an untimely passing due to mixing it up with a bathtub and a radio?  Death by radio?  Hmmmm.... that's a bit of symbolism, isn't it?  Must have been some kind of warning for mankind.... only for us, it's a slooowwwwww death by radio.

Anyway, maybe the Noory family is cursed with tragic, peculiar accidents.   Such as the birth of Jorch.