Random Political Thoughts

[wr250]

Yeah, I remember the Dark Matter episode with Hoagland. I thought Hoagland was crossing a line there, so I figured Jorch would say "You're a bad, bad man Richard C." and blink him on out there without so much as a turkey sammich to dull the pain.

I actually enjoy Hoagland's ridiculousness and will take him any day of the week in place of one of the health and wellness shows.

well norry might of, and hoagland didnt share that with art ...

and how did we get to noory anyways lol.

[ItsOver]

Yeah, I remember the Dark Matter episode with Hoagland. I thought Hoagland was crossing a line there, so I figured Jorch would say "You're a bad, bad man Richard C." and blink him on out there without so much as a turkey sammich to dull the pain.

I actually enjoy Hoagland's ridiculousness and will take him any day of the week in place of one of the health and wellness shows.

Yes, I might even endure Noory to get a few laughs as Hoagie drives the crazy train through the night.  Speaking of, apparently Jesus was a socialist, Hitler was a lefty, no a righty, no a lefty, hell, I just thought he was a megalomaniac but the real question is WHAT IS HOAGLAND?

[ItsOver]

...and how did we get to noory anyways lol.

All boobery, including politics, eventually leads to Noory. 

[wr250]

Yes, I might even endure Noory to get a few laughs as Hoagie drives the crazy train through the night.  Speaking of, apparently Jesus was a socialist, Hitler was a lefty, no a righty, no a lefty, hell, I just thought he was a megalomaniac but the real question is WHAT IS HOAGLAND?

i thought i said hitler was a megalomaniac. hoagland is a closet ed  dames student. hes just got those wacky theories involving cities on mars and the moon along with a fascination with 19.5

[ItsOver]

... the moon along with a fascination with 19.5

Don't forget his Accutron watch.  What does he use it for?  Torsion field detection?  I can just see him tripping around, staring at it, as he mumbles "data,  look at the data!"  How does this guy get past the TSA at the airport?

[SciFiAuthor]

I just thought he was a megalomaniac

That's what I thought too, though I got windy and wrote like 30 paragraphs to say what you just did in one sentence. But, ya know, the left and right do love to play "Toss the Fuhrer".

but the real question is WHAT IS HOAGLAND?

Hoaglacrat. It's basically the same platform as the Rent is Too Damned High party but with a large subsidy budget for hair care product research and extraterrestrial rock analysis.

[PB the Deplorable]

... No you don't. The French revolution didn't have one. Nor did the Russian one...

You're right, with a big enough mob it doesn't always take a huge all powerful government to murder wagonloads of people.  At least not 100 years ago.  Makes it easier though.


Interesting you bring up the French and Russian Revolutions.  Check out the opposition in Kiev capturing the city center and most key government buildings today! 

Ultimately successful or otherwise, this is how revolutions actually occur.  One of the main arguments for private gun ownership - perhaps the main argument - is they are the ultimate check on our government.  And there are always plenty of people around to scoff and claim ordinary citizens with small arms would be futile against military weaponry, and thus insist this is not a valid argument

But the Revolutionaries in Ukraine who are fed up with their government aren't facing off against tanks in an open field somewhere.  Situations like this are where having guns can make a huge difference. 

So much for the old tired argument that we'd be helpless against the government so we may as well hand in our guns.

[ItsOver]

That's what I thought too, though I got windy and wrote like 30 paragraphs to say what you just did in one sentence. But, ya know, the left and right do love to play "Toss the Fuhrer".

Hoaglacrat. It's basically the same platform as the Rent is Too Damned High party but with a large subsidy budget for hair care product research and extraterrestrial rock analysis.

Hahaha..."Hoaglacrat," I like it.  I assume the Hoaglacrats would be working towards The Affordable Hair Care Products Act.    Damn, we all have a right to the good stuff so we can style like Hoagie.  Yes, there should be a large budget for hair care product research to further perfect RCH's HoagieSheen, as well.  Shine like a diamond, baby!



Back to the invigorating game of "Toss the Fuhrer!"

[nbirnes]

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Hahaha..."Hoaglacrat," I like it.  I assume the Hoaglacrats would be working towards The Affordable Hair Care Products Act.    Damn, we all have a right to the good stuff so we can style like Hoagie.  Yes, there should be a large budget for hair care product research to further perfect RCH's HoagieSheen, as well.  Shine like a diamond, baby!

This cover I did in 2006 highlights the fabulous hair. Plus, inside is a photo of the Hoagie in a short girly bathrobe ... when he was romancing the founder of UFO Mag.

If we don't learn from our history ...

[ItsOver]

Love it.  Smoke'n!  "The hair.  It's all about the hair.  Look at the hair!" 

[Yorkshire pud]

You're right, with a big enough mob it doesn't always take a huge all powerful government to murder wagonloads of people.  At least not 100 years ago.  Makes it easier though.


Interesting you bring up the French and Russian Revolutions.  Check out the opposition in Kiev capturing the city center and most key government buildings today! 

Ultimately successful or otherwise, this is how revolutions actually occur.  One of the main arguments for private gun ownership - perhaps the main argument - is they are the ultimate check on our government.  And there are always plenty of people around to scoff and claim ordinary citizens with small arms would be futile against military weaponry, and thus insist this is not a valid argument

Yeah, just imagine the glee you'd have watching the bloodbath that unfolded with all those firearms being fired at each other... You'd never sleep with the wet dreams.

[wr250]

Yeah, just imagine the glee you'd have watching the bloodbath that unfolded with all those firearms being fired at each other... You'd never sleep with the wet dreams.

[sarcasm]
gee , just think of the bright side. let them fight it out, you would
a: reduce the world population
2: remove a bunch of bible (koran,torah,whatever religious book) thumping, firearms bearing,redneck  dumbasses form the gene pool , would be an epic darwin award for sure.
[/sarcasm]

[PB the Deplorable]

Yeah, just imagine the glee you'd have watching the bloodbath that unfolded with all those firearms being fired at each other... You'd never sleep with the wet dreams.

Wow, really?  When the Ukrainians started this it sounded like you were all for them.  Now it sounds like you'd send them off to battle without weapons, so they'd be 'safe'.

[Yorkshire pud]

Wow, really?  When the Ukrainians started this it sounded like you were all for them.  Now it sounds like you'd send them off to battle without weapons, so they'd be 'safe'.

Hmmm; You're conflating that I supported their own self determination with civil war. I wanted more than anything for the Ukrainians to settle things peacefully. But they have long memories in Eastern Europe. WW2, and then afterwards the oppression from Stalin. They saw Putin as an extension of that former oppression, even if it was economically. They also wanted (as they see it) the 'family' of the EU. They at least want the opportunity to find out. Russia and the current government would stop that.

[NowhereInTime]

Hmmm; You're conflating that I supported their own self determination with civil war. I wanted more than anything for the Ukrainians to settle things peacefully. But they have long memories in Eastern Europe. WW2, and then afterwards the oppression from Stalin. They saw Putin as an extension of that former oppression, even if it was economically. They also wanted (as they see it) the 'family' of the EU. They at least want the opportunity to find out. Russia and the current government would stop that.

Paper*Boy?  Conflating?!? Perish the thought!!!

[Yorkshire pud]

Paper*Boy?  Conflating?!? Perish the thought!!!

From an objective point of view, it does throw up a dilemma for the liberal/socialist/anyone who isn't them, haters. The fact that the Ukranian government were/are endemically corrupt being a factor as well as the desire to be untied from Russia has been rebelled against by a great many (not all) of the population. Those same people want to have Ukraine accepted into the EU, as soon as practical..It doesn't mean of course that they will be, because the existing member countries have to vote on it if they officially apply-which based on the usual glacier speed at which these things move, might be in the next ten years. EU equals big government REALLY big government, equals anathema to the right wing (And a great many  of the people in the UK, Denmark, Norway, France), FWIW, my own view is it was created by and for the benefit of France, and later Germany. France is essentially an agricultural country, and guess what? Farming subsides are a big feature of the EU...quelle surprise!

But I digress.. That the Ukrainian people would like Ukraine to be part of this edifice, suggests they're socialist does it not? And a country like Ukraine knows exactly what conflict is, having been invaded twice in the last seventy years. Look at the pictures and stories coming out; These are not power crazy armed to the teeth lunatics, they're ordinary people from all walks of life wanting to be rid of the Russian influence and the corruption within their own government, and lifted from crushing poverty whilst their Russian loving leaders live in opulence.

Much hand wringing later, the right wingers here will maybe go quiet on the subject because they might see that all this talk of how Obama is this Marxist/liberal/Ankskysky monster and how the people should rise up against him might make them see uncomfortable comparisons with what is now going on in Ukraine, and how close they identify with those goddam socialist citizens. Oh, and they did it without millions of rounds of ammunition and thousands having their firearm peeled from 'their cold dead hands'.

[PB the Deplorable]

This is more about the Ukrainians wanting to their future to be with Europe rather than with Russia.  But not everyone in Ukraine agrees, the eastern portion of he country is more pro-Russian.

These are people with little experience with democracy.  Corrupt socialist government has been the norm.  The elite, the educated, the young, understand things better, but don't assume this is just another European country like, say, Belgium that are used to a free press, free elections, freedom of speech, etc.  Don't read more into this than is there.

[Yorkshire pud]

This is more about the Ukrainians wanting to their future to be with Europe rather than with Russia.  But not everyone in Ukraine agrees, the eastern portion of he country is more pro-Russian.

These are people with little experience with democracy.  Corrupt socialist government has been the norm.  The elite, the educated, the young, understand things better, but don't assume this is just another European country like, say, Belgium that are used to a free press, free elections, freedom of speech, etc.  Don't read more into this than is there.

Assume? I assume nothing. But they'll have Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Czech Rep/ Slovakia/ Hungary, Lithuania/ Romania to look to for inspiration I'm sure. And although you love it to be so...(I mean really love it to be so) The corrupt government isn't socialist, not by a long way. The ones overthrowing him could be seen as such though. In fact it's pretty much what they're currently demonstrating. An almost bloodless coup undertaken by the collective..

[NowhereInTime]

This is more about the Ukrainians wanting to their future to be with Europe rather than with Russia.  But not everyone in Ukraine agrees, the eastern portion of he country is more pro-Russian.

These are people with little experience with democracy.  Corrupt socialist government has been the norm.  The elite, the educated, the young, understand things better, but don't assume this is just another European country like, say, Belgium that are used to a free press, free elections, freedom of speech, etc.  Don't read more into this than is there.

You mean this Belgium?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19943890

Where Flemish separatists want to divide Dutch north from French south?  Oh, nothing at all like Ukraine...

[Ben Shockley]

...Oh, nothing at all like Ukraine...

Of course not!! No -skys/-skis/-enkos/ epicanthic folds  involved!!

[FightTheFuture]

Pretty much a no-brainer here by Kasparov.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/23/Chess-Champion-Kasparov-I-d-Still-Be-A-Soviet-Citizen-If-Obama-Had-Been-President-Instead-Of-Reagan

[Yorkshire pud]

Pretty much a no-brainer here by Kasparov.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/23/Chess-Champion-Kasparov-I-d-Still-Be-A-Soviet-Citizen-If-Obama-Had-Been-President-Instead-Of-Reagan

No slant there then..pesky left wing/liberal/Marxist press.. Well known Nskyst Breitbart.

[FightTheFuture]

No slant there then..pesky left wing/liberal/Marxist press.. Well known Nskyst Breitbart.

Slant?? What are you talking about? The entire "article" consists of a photo grab of a Kasparov tweet!

[Yorkshire pud]

But it's interesting it's published in the liberal press don't you think?

[FightTheFuture]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACISTS


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/black-pastors-impeach-holder

[FightTheFuture]

But it's interesting it's published in the liberal press don't you think?

Liberal press? Huh? Again; WTF are you talking about?

[Ben Shockley]

Liberal press? Huh? Again; WTF are you talking about?

A truly good question.
Whenever an on-air personage pops up with some seemingly-Lib tendencies, they usually get fired pretty quickly.  There really is no "Liberal press," is there, FTF?

Thanks for noticing and commenting accordingly, FTF     Hey, we might get to be friends yet!

[Yorkshire pud]

Liberal press? Huh? Again; WTF are you talking about?

I think that question should be directed at PB..he's the one who says you have one. Despite me pointing out that it isn't universal or even exclusive..I'm sure he'll be along to clarify that though. I was just quoting.

[FightTheFuture]

A truly good question.
Whenever an on-air personage pops up with some seemingly-Lib tendencies, they usually get fired pretty quickly.  There really is no "Liberal press," is there, FTF?

Thanks for noticing and commenting accordingly, FTF     Hey, we might get to be friends yet!

Context. It`s all about context.

[FightTheFuture]

I think that question should be directed at PB..he's the one who says you have one. Despite me pointing out that it isn't universal or even exclusive..I'm sure he'll be along to clarify that though. I was just quoting.

We absolutely have a predominately liberal press. Not to mention Hollyweird.


Although, we can thank GOD for Mark Brunett and Roma Downey.