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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

chefist

Quote from: ItsOver on December 19, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Think of the Hollyweird tears that are now falling.  Martin Sheen's probably stomping on his glasses, Mike Farrell's grinding his teeth to nubs, and Hot Lips implants have exploded.

http://youtu.be/lEwnfhuPJGs





Let's start building the wall today!




albrecht

Quote from: Juan on December 19, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
She has a rifle.  Isn't that a cultural appropriation?
;D

He is not even in office and I'm already getting sick of all the winning!

If they stay together and continue the marriage of convenience I think Bill is really giving Hillary a hard time. I don't think Bill really wanted her to win and now he will be able to hold her losing so many times over her in arguments.

Juan

I'm hoping she just stays drunk and passed out.  I bet Bill does, too.

albrecht

Quote from: Juan on December 19, 2016, 04:53:22 PM
I'm hoping she just stays drunk and passed out.  I bet Bill does, too.
Yeah. But then he knows he will have to deal with a hungover Hillary the next day and then the bitching will be even worse. Obama also has promised to remain involved in politics. Will be curious to see if he really does continue his operation to undermine the country or not. And how that marriage will go post-Presidency and less tax-payer money to fund separate vacations, shindigs, parties, golf matches, bodymen, etc.


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 19, 2016, 06:34:56 AM
A business leader, an ex military person, and a lawyer might be. Just as an engineer, a doctor, a bus driver, a nurse, a professor, a builder or a pilot might be. But all if they have any sense would start low level to begin with. To get a feel for how things work, how the community where they live functions, and getting an understanding.

Dropping any of the above into a top job without any grounding of the basics is ludicrous. Irrespective of the position or political colour.

Would you feel comfortable having someone perform surgery on you who only knew how to apply a sticking plaster?

Pud, you get sillier by the day.  You're fortunate you have me to explain the way things work for you.

You fear Trump is in it to build his business, and apparently enrich himself.  All presidents have the ability to use the position to enrich themselves.  The Clintons said they were broke on the way in, and on the way out of the White House, now they're billionaires.  Before we ever heard of them, the Obama's were given a very nice house - make that a mansion - by a crook in Chicago for steering a bill through the Illinois State Legislature that enriched the guy enormously.  After eight years in the White House, and hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars spent on parties and personal travel, they will be set up for life.

Trump, Inc may or may not continue building properties around the world.  Cutting some red tape for that abroad may or may not be due in part to the owner of the company being US President.  Is that really something you're concerned about?  Don't countries want foreign investment?  Isn't that what the whole anti-Brexit argument was about - loss of foreign investment?  I don't really think he's had much trouble lately building properties.


You don't think the government should 'be run like a business'.  Well, non-profits are businesses too.  Unions don't exactly lose money.  What people mean by running it like a business, is getting the maximum out of every (tax) dollar spent.  Reducing waste.  Reorganizing where that will improved things.  Getting rid of the deadwood, the lazy, the incompetent, the self servers.  Seeing if certain programs overlap, are useless, are counterproductive, and can be eliminated.  Maybe even achieving permanent balanced budgets.  What is wrong with any of that?


You think he's a lying hypocrite because he's working with people he attacked on the campaign trail.  I don't know how campaigning works in the UK (mostly because I don't care), but when a top position is vacant, there are a lot of egos that want the job.  When there are 16 people running in the Republican Primary, and each have a certain number of high profile supporters, there is going to be a lot of unpleasantness.  When one or several emerge as the top contenders, the rest are going to attack them and they are going to attack each other.  It's called, wait for it... politics.  He gave as good as he got.  So what?

When it's over, and one of them wins the job, it's in everyone's best interests to put it behind them and work together.  It's called bringing the party together.  They are politicians, they don't take it personally, it's part of the game.  It's why Obama appointed his top primary opponent, Hilary Rotten Clinton, to be his Secretary of State, a very plum position.  Despite the Clinton's nasty campaign against him.


I really hope none of this is new to you, and you're just playing the devil's advocate as something got do in your spare time, because it's pretty silly.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 19, 2016, 11:36:31 AM
In that case then run it exactly like a business, and float it on the stock exchange. Its what Thatcher did ( Conservative) in the UK with utilities, public transport, and energy; Cameron did the post office a couple of years ago. They even sold the initial share options to those who could afford them; yep. They sold off to a few what every tax payer already owned. I'm still waiting for my cheque from the sell offs.

Trains now are 99% owned by German or French nationalised companies, as are gas and electric. Water is foreign owned too. That's what happens when you run a country like a business, the shares the people (taxpayers) already own end up being sold to investment banks, equity companies and foreign interests, and the very rich, such as erm, Trump. I.e. the 'swamp'.



You're welcome

Thatcher saved your failing economy, just as Reagan saved ours.  Yes, the coal miners of Yorkshire and elsewhere, led by the Marxist Arthur Scargill, overplayed their hand and ended up getting the whole thing shut down for good.  Yes, the dying coal industry, then the death of the coal industry didn't work out so well for the miners and their communities.

Yes, like Reagan, Thatcher made mistakes.  For Reagan it was not understanding these 'free trade' deals are not really free trade.  For Thatcher, it was selling off certain businesses that should have been retained by the government.

But, you know, putting the US, UK, and the world economies on the right foot for the next 25 years, and facing down and destroying the Soviet Union without a nuclear war, sort of makes up for some of that.


Quote from: albrecht on December 19, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
... Obama also has promised to remain involved in politics. Will be curious to see if he really does continue his operation to undermine the country or not...

But he's helped his party out so much already, is it really fair to ask him for more?

albrecht

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 19, 2016, 07:01:12 PM
But he's helped his party out so much already, is it really fair to ask him for more?
There was no love lost between the Obamas and the Billarys during the initial campaigns, and I suspect later. Keep your enemies closer type of thing or, maybe, the Billarys had some "files" or info on Obama so give me SOS so I can enrich our Foundations- or else? Regardless during his last press conference it was interesting, and funny, to see him, basically, claim the DNC/Billary couldn't do what he did and they lost voters, weren't connecting, etc. Again, as always, it was all about him. I'll bet the DNC bigwigs and Billarys were upset when he said Trump was the next President, the hacking stopped after Obama told Russians etc to do so, and Billary could do what he did and get elected.

Quote from: albrecht on December 19, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
There was no love lost between the Obamas and the Billarys during the initial campaigns, and I suspect later. Keep your enemies closer type of thing or, maybe, the Billarys had some "files" or info on Obama so give me SOS so I can enrich our Foundations- or else? Regardless during his last press conference it was interesting, and funny, to see him, basically, claim the DNC/Billary couldn't do what he did and they lost voters, weren't connecting, etc. Again, as always, it was all about him. I'll bet the DNC bigwigs and Billarys were upset when he said Trump was the next President, the hacking stopped after Obama told Russians etc to do so, and Billary could do what he did and get elected.

I hope and expect the long knives will come out, and someone somewhere will release all the personal documents and information he's so carefully kept from the American people. 

If it's really all just a game to keep his opponents occupied with trying to track it down, so be it- but I strongly doubt it.  It would be nice to find out what he's been so careful, and spent so much money, to hide.




albrecht

Ha. Wonder old Senor Carlos Slim (note he has a nickname like many a Mexican, especially drug lords but even normal people, it is a cultural thing even more so than here) will 'build the wall?'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dines-with-carlos-slim-as-relations-warm-with-mexican-leaders/2016/12/19/652ccf7c-c60f-11e6-bf4b-2c064d32a4bf_story.html?utm_term=.c6e038716934


JesusJuice

There's an unreleased video of Donald Trump saying "nigger", "cunt" and also calling his son a retard. They don't say which son he was talking about but I bet it was that little retarded looking one.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/tom-arnold-says-hes-got-recordings-of-trump-using-racial-slurs-and-calling-son-a-retard/



albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on December 19, 2016, 08:41:42 PM
Note the purple.
Being a 'royal' color? (Billary being a presumed Queen.) Or is there a more esoteric aspect I'm missing?


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: albrecht on December 19, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
Being a 'royal' color? (Billary being a presumed Queen.) Or is there a more esoteric aspect I'm missing?

Think Hegel.  ;)


albrecht

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 19, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
Think Hegel.  ;)
Ah, should've caught that. I thought more on the presumption of Billary and her magesty. Not on the color itself being a blend of both. But, in defense, I am color-blind (to some colors, ha, not to others.)  ;)

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on December 19, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
Being a 'royal' color? (Billary being a presumed Queen.) Or is there a more esoteric aspect I'm missing?


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