President Donald J. Trump

[Jackstar]

Are you implying he should be selling these at a loss, or should he be selling them at cost, or just, like, giving them away with food stamps, or what?

[Lt.Uhura]

.

[Jackstar]

[Jackstar]

Who needs a Christmas tree anyway?

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Congratulations Hillary supporters, you just got conned out of five million dollars.



Leftists politicians man. It's like every single one of them is complete corrupt human garbage. It never made any sense to me how this was supposed to work in the first place. What authority does Jill Stein or the Green Party have to demand a recount?

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

This is the most I've heard the Green Party in the news since Ralph Nader.  It would be funny if Stein funnels the money back into the Green Party as a big troll job to the Democrats that donated money to her.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

This is the most I've heard the Green Party in the news since Ralph Nader.  It would be funny if Stein funnels the money back into the Green Party as a big troll job to the Democrats that donated money to her.

White liberals are the biggest marks on the planet. It's so funny watching these people who've made careers based on being white liberals get duped over and over and over again publicly.

[chefist]

White liberals are the biggest marks on the planet. It's so funny watching these people who've made careers based on being white liberals get duped over and over and over again publicly.

And the MSM giving them free advertising... disgusting.

[Yorkshire pud]

White liberals are the biggest marks on the planet. It's so funny watching these people who've made careers based on being white liberals get duped over and over and over again publicly.

Yeah, because Reps would never fall for a story whereby the promise of deporting two million criminals in the first hour, or the absolute promise of jailing a politcal opponent was trotted out many times. Then there's that promise of not pandering to the globalist status quo, but fill the cabinet with them, and make sure future legislation makes the very rich even richer, and the average person a lot poorer; Or having an education sec who has zero experience with public education, either for herself or her children. No fooling Reps, no way. 

[CornyCrow]

Yeah, because Reps would never fall for a story whereby the promise of deporting two million criminals in the first hour, or the absolute promise of jailing a politcal opponent was trotted out many times. Then there's that promise of not pandering to the globalist status quo, but fill the cabinet with them, and make sure future legislation makes the very rich even richer, and the average person a lot poorer; Or having an education sec who has zero experience with public education, either for herself or her children. No fooling Reps, no way. 

They are angry because they've outlived their usefulness to Trump.  He doesn't need them any longer and is just discarding his promises to them.  They feel jilted.  This is what happens when you allow your emotions to lead you in elections.  They experienced a lot of wishful thinking - that, and there was the overriding concern of defeating 'the enemy', their fellow Americans.   

[136 or 142]

Now that we're magically sitting atop two of the largest oil reserves in the world. I say fuck Saudi Arabia. We should be treating them like Russia. Encircle them militarily and choke out their economy.

It depends on how much it costs to extract the oil.  If most of it is expensive to extract, it won't cause any of the world prices of oil to decline very much.  The United States itself already gets most of its oil from itself, Venezuela and Canada.

[136 or 142]

You have a kind of perverted logic whereby rabid fascists like Mussolini and Franco somehow become not-so-bad guys when compared with Hitler and the Nazis. I can't imagine what kind of satisfaction it gives you to try to make a case like that but in the end, it's pointless. They each qualify as power-mad killers, whether you're able to enter that data into your mental calculator or not. For my part, I'll leave it there, especially since my original post was addressed to a different poster.

My mental calculator works by placing most everything somewhere on a bell curve.

[PB the Deplorable]

Congratulations Hillary supporters, you just got conned out of five million dollars...

It's all from Soros.  It just has to come in in drips and drabs so that it won't be quite as obvious. 

He most likely approached Hilary first, and when she declined then went to Jill Stein.  Of course now that Hil can't be accused of asking for the recounts herself, she's delighted to get involved.  Kabuki Theatre.


I think if they are going to do it, they should so it right.  Confirm every person that voted was alive when their ballot was cast, is a citizen, that they are a resident of the precinct they voted in, ask each to confirm they were the one that actually voted - a simple yes or no will be fine. 

If we're going to look for fraud, let's look for all of it.  Three states that were in in play sounds like a reasonable sample to me.

[Dr. MD MD]

My mental calculator works by placing most everything somewhere on a bell curve.

Then your Overton window is highly askew. 

[136 or 142]

I'm not quite as sure about that as you are.

That must have been quite the brainy group.  I'm not going to deconstruct your wall of text for you, it's unfortunate you didn't get to the chapter on selection bias, confirmation bias, etc.

I think it's pretty clear you come up with your responses before you even read what I write.  I suspect you didn't even read what I wrote.

So, all you did here was google something like 'illogic' and you found 'cognitive biases' and you mindlessly took the terms 'selection bias' and 'confirmation bias' and regurgitated them here.

I'd ask 'am I right?"  but since I know you won't read anything I write here either, I know you won't answer.

[Value Of Pi]

My mental calculator works by placing most everything somewhere on a bell curve.

Yes, I see that you reason this way. For me, bell curves have analytical value in some areas, but I see the dangers in over-embracing a relativistic form of morality based on comparing data points.

Past a certain very limited point, for example, it does no good to debate whether this serial killer was worse (or somehow "better") than another serial killer. They are on the same moral (and legal) plane and it's best to leave it at that, whether they killed twelve or fifty. Everything in life can't be reduced to a mathematical equation, as attractive as that notion is to some people.

[136 or 142]

Congratulations Hillary supporters, you just got conned out of five million dollars.

Leftists politicians man. It's like every single one of them is complete corrupt human garbage.

Donald Trump is a leftist?

[mikuthing01]

Congratulations Hillary supporters, you just got conned out of five million dollars.



Leftists politicians man. It's like every single one of them is complete corrupt human garbage. It never made any sense to me how this was supposed to work in the first place. What authority does Jill Stein or the Green Party have to demand a recount?

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Donald Trump is a leftist?

That logic class you took in community college is really paying off.

[136 or 142]

Yes, I see that you reason this way. For me, bell curves have analytical value in some areas, but I see the dangers in over-embracing a relativistic form of morality based on comparing data points.

Past a certain very limited point, for example, it does no good to debate whether this serial killer was worse (or somehow "better") than another serial killer. They are on the same moral (and legal) plane and it's best to leave it at that, whether they killed twelve or fifty. Everything in life can't be reduced to a mathematical equation, as attractive as that notion is to some people.

I don't want to get into a debate over this, mostly because I'd lose as I don't care about the emotional side of the argument.  Hitler was pure evil, and Franco was nearly all evil, but that excerpt I quoted showed that even Franco helped some Jews escape from Nazi Germany (this was before Hitler ordered the extermination.)

From an analogy point of view, it's kind of like Hitler was Emperor Palpatine while Franco was Darth Vader.

I think this does matter from a historical record point of view because it can lead to people either dismissing the possibility that a person who is nearly always horrible can do the odd good thing, or that even an all horrible person might not have done something bad.

That isn't just a historical thing, for instance, as there have been people who were horrible, and even worse people who were assumed to be horrible, who were convicted of crimes they weren't guilty of.  For instance, The West Memphis Three, for instance, were convicted because their jury thought they were Satanists.

Historically, there is the relatively recent case of the Katyn Massacre.  Even though Stalin himself was as evil as Hitler, when Stalin said that Hitler was behind that, seemingly everybody assumed it was true because it was the sort of thing Hitler did.  It's now universally agreed that it was the Soviet NKVD that was behind that (maybe not in Russia.)

So, I think it's important to keep the record accurate.  Franco was evil, but he did not commit genocide.  Hitler did that and that is why, as you wrote earlier, there is a distinction between Fascism and Nazism.  Mussolini was somewhere between the two, however, I agree with you that at that point it does become an argument of whose genocide practices were worse.

Edit: Now that I think of it, I don't think even that's completely accurate.  I think I remember reading in that biography of Franco that he would give out lists of numbers to his Generals and order them to indiscriminantly kill that many people in a certain town on the basis that 'most people in that town supported the Republic.'

Oh well,  I still think it's important for the historical record to show that Franco did help some Jews escape the Nazis.  In the case of Hitler, even his supposed one good thing isn't even true:  he wasn't a vegetarian and he was reportedly frequently cruel to animals.

[136 or 142]

That logic class you took in community college is really paying off.

You wrote 'complete corrupt human garbage.' If that doesn't describe Trump perfectly, I don't know what does.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

$$Cha-CHING$$!

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Between these mass produced (probably in China) $200(!) xmas ornaments, and possibly renting out an entire floor of Trump Towers to the Secret Service, Trump's Presidency is already a cash cow.

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,2284.msg962819.html#msg962819

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

White liberals are the biggest marks on the planet. It's so funny watching these people who've made careers based on being white liberals get duped over and over and over again publicly.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

They are angry because they've outlived their usefulness to Trump.  He doesn't need them any longer and is just discarding his promises to them.  They feel jilted.  This is what happens when you allow your emotions to lead you in elections.  They experienced a lot of wishful thinking - that, and there was the overriding concern of defeating 'the enemy', their fellow Americans.

[JesusJuice]

This is the most I've heard the Green Party in the news since Ralph Nader.  It would be funny if Stein funnels the money back into the Green Party as a big troll job to the Democrats that donated money to her.

If Dr. MD MD is here, I want him to know that Brianna Wu is another "chick with a dick".

[Dr. MD MD]

If Dr. MD MD is here, I want him to know that Brianna Wu is another "chick with a dick".

Who? 

[mikuthing01]

If Dr. MD MD is here, I want him to know that Brianna Wu is another "chick with a dick".

Brianna Wu is just a dude with a dick Jace trolled the fuck out of him lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GjyBuz2yOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM378rbOPbE

[JesusJuice]

Who? 

She's a famous video game developer that was a target of abuse by the white nationalist / MRA movement known as #gamergate. They hired a navy sniper to try to assassinate her. She is married to Frank Wu who is a famous Hugo award winning Sci Fi and Fantasy artist.


The happy couple.

[JesusJuice]

And she also has a penis. I know that you are drawn to such women, Dr.

Another for your collection.

[Dr. MD MD]

And she also has a penis. I know that you are drawn to such women, Dr.

Another for your collection.

I know you want to think that for some reason. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.  :