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Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

theONE

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on November 02, 2016, 11:28:21 PM
Either way, it's looking like, as coaster predicted here months ago--we're fucked.

Human beings' major design flaw in our evolution is the inability to sync our our higher reasoning (pre-frontal lobes), with our primal fears (amygdala). Neuroscientists have made some compelling discoveries in research* into this phenomenon, but as this election reminds us, we've got a long way to go.

*Buddhist monks who do compassion meditation have been shown to modulate their amygdala, along with their temporoparietal junction and insula, during their practice. In an fMRI study, more intensive insula activity was found in expert meditators than in novices. Increased activity in the amygdala following compassion-oriented meditation may contribute to social connectedness. --Wikipedia

no ,only democrats will be fucked rest of the country will be busy celebrating

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 02, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
A lot will depend on what signals Trump is sending out on Election Day.

Oh yeah! If Trump flashes that mason sign I'm going berserker, baby!  >:(

I mean, I can't help it. I was programmed to.  :-\

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 02, 2016, 11:09:08 PM
Or 1998. There's always this weird "shit's gonna go down with the militias or martial law" crap that precedes elections for the last 3 decades but never happens. And, of course, it shouldn't happen. But it never even close to pans out. Parts of the right are guilty of it too, and it's raging in those circles as well right now. The Clinton/Bush/Obama will find a way to be a dictator stuff.

That's because there already has been violence coupled with WikiLeaks info that show that the violence already has been agitated from positions of actual power within the Democratic party. That's something that's not quite right. It seems to be ridiculously unethical.

Oh, come on! Don't hold back! Call it what it is: racketeering...and, of course, it's illegal.  :)

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on November 02, 2016, 11:28:21 PM
Either way, it's looking like, as coaster predicted here months ago--we're fucked.

Human beings' major design flaw in our evolution is the inability to sync our our higher reasoning (pre-frontal lobes), with our primal fears (amygdala). Neuroscientists have made some compelling discoveries in research* into this phenomenon, but as this election reminds us, we've got a long way to go.

*Buddhist monks who do compassion meditation have been shown to modulate their amygdala, along with their temporoparietal junction and insula, during their practice. In an fMRI study, more intensive insula activity was found in expert meditators than in novices. Increased activity in the amygdala following compassion-oriented meditation may contribute to social connectedness. --Wikipedia

If Trump wins, I agree. If Hillary wins, I think we have some time to deal with the problems that resulted in Trump being on the ballot. That doesn't mean I think that a Clinton administration will do much to solve them, but we'll have some breathing room.

Jackstar

So lemme get this straight--bad to ban all Muslims from entering the country, but good to ban Trump from the nomination.

You people are perverse.

I'm going to post this one more time to get through some thick skulls.  Hillary is corrupt so says Bob Woodward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcNBzwGt2I4


Uhura, Pi.  What say you to Woodward's contention?

Value Of Pi

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 03, 2016, 01:42:16 AM
I'm going to post this one more time to get through some thick skulls.  Hillary is corrupt so says Bob Woodward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcNBzwGt2I4


Uhura, Pi.  What say you to Woodward's contention?

I don't disagree with Woodward's assessment based on what I've read about the Clinton Foundation. "Pay to play" is very common in Washington and in state capitals. I would call it corrupt but actually the legal definition of (criminal) corruption is a lot more strict, so it's not clear to what extent there may have been criminal behavior and by whom.

I've posted on this "pay to play" subject before and, as you know, my opinion is that Hillary is not the president I want but the president who would pose a far lesser risk to the country than Trump. Who knows, maybe she would even accomplish something.

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 03, 2016, 02:32:24 AM
I don't disagree with Woodward's assessment based on what I've read about the Clinton Foundation. "Pay to play" is very common in Washington and in state capitals. I would call it corrupt but actually the legal definition of (criminal) corruption is a lot more strict, so it's not clear to what extent there may have been criminal behavior and by whom.

I've posted on this "pay to play" subject before and, as you know, my opinion is that Hillary is not the president I want but the president who would pose a far lesser risk to the country than Trump. Who knows, maybe she would even accomplish something.

Trump is an unknown quantity.  Sure he has behaved atrociously in the past  regarding business dealings and in his personal life but I just have this feeling he is going to step up to the plate and behave properly once in the White House.  Just my intuition for what it is worth and my hope.  I do really think he loves this country.  So far I have seen nothing to lead me to believe that Hillary will behave properly in the White House.  I see a future of double-dealings and further corruption plus war-mongering should she become president. Plus, I think Hillary loves the power more than she loves the country.

I guess we simply see things things differently.  You see Trump as a greater threat and I see Clinton as the greater threat.  Plus you apparently aren't sick of the same-ol' same ol' Washington cronyism that is common among Republican and Democrat leaders.  I'm ready for something different. I would have preferred someone other than Trump but he'll have to do.  Maybe I'll regret my decision but maybe not.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 03, 2016, 02:49:24 AM
Trump is an unknown quantity.  Sure he has behaved atrociously in the past  regarding business dealings and in his personal life but I just have this feeling he is going to step up to the plate and behave properly once in the White House.  Just my intuition for what it is worth and my hope.  I do really think he loves this country.  So far I have seen nothing to lead me to believe that Hillary will behave properly in the White House.  I see a future of double-dealings and further corruption plus war-mongering should she become president. Plus, I think Hillary loves the power more than she loves the country.

I guess we simply see things things differently.  You see Trump as a greater threat and I see Clinton as the greater threat.  Plus you apparently aren't sick of the same-ol' same ol' Washington cronyism that is common among Republican and Democrat leaders.  I'm ready for something different. I would have preferred someone other than Trump but he'll have to do.  Maybe I'll regret my decision but maybe not.

You seem to be voting based on wishful thinking and a feeling. I'm voting on the basis that neither of these people will be significantly different as president then they have been in the past. On that basis, Hillary is a far better choice.

Also, I don't agree that she is a war-monger or that she doesn't love America. We'll survive another four years of business as usual but I wouldn't give much for our chances with Trump. For starters, if I really believed he was going to win, I'd liquidate my portfolio.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 03, 2016, 03:11:19 AM
For starters, if I really believed he was going to win, I'd liquidate my portfolio.

So, I guess you'll be moving to Canada too then? At least you'll be with like-minded people there.  :D

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on November 02, 2016, 11:17:59 PM
So, if you have a "good" white kid in one of these schools, you are going to stop edumacating them as well because there will not be the funds?  Seems like a progressive way forward to me.
Schools should be funded by local tax-payers and educate the local, legal population. Providing "three squares" a day in school is absurd. Parents should feed their own children, or if they don't have the means don't have children. Because I'm kind hearted I don't mind paying for breakfast and lunch for children in school but this adding even dinner is crazy. But any legal children should be able to get a good education- unlike Obama, Clinton, Gore etc I think they should get just as good as education as those rich folks sending their kids to Sidwell Friends etc. I'm all for States and independent school districts trying different options to see what works best: voucher programs, private, charter, or grants (private and public at the state level) should be available so not only the rich kids get good, safe education. Or maybe a tax-break for parents who send their kids to a private school. Gore, Obama etc shouldn't be the only people able to be educated in or send their children to elite, private, religious schools and get taught in a safe environment. (I still wonder if the Quakers allow Obama's kids to have armed security considering their ideas about war, guns, etc?)

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on November 02, 2016, 11:28:21 PM
Either way, it's looking like, as coaster predicted here months ago--we're fucked.

Human beings' major design flaw in our evolution is the inability to sync our our higher reasoning (pre-frontal lobes), with our primal fears (amygdala). Neuroscientists have made some compelling discoveries in research* into this phenomenon, but as this election reminds us, we've got a long way to go.

*Buddhist monks who do compassion meditation have been shown to modulate their amygdala, along with their temporoparietal junction and insula, during their practice. In an fMRI study, more intensive insula activity was found in expert meditators than in novices. Increased activity in the amygdala following compassion-oriented meditation may contribute to social connectedness. --Wikipedia

Why didn't people vote for the biggest piece of shit in American political history despite everything being rigged in her favor? I don't get it. Must be a conspiracy...

onan

Quote from: VoteQuimby on November 03, 2016, 09:24:15 AM
Why didn't people vote for the biggest piece of shit in American political history despite everything being rigged in her favor? I don't get it. Must be a conspiracy...

I don't think it's anywhere near over.

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 03, 2016, 07:24:33 AM
So, I guess you'll be moving to Canada too then? At least you'll be with like-minded people there.  :D

You'll be moving to Russia.

albrecht

Quote from: onan on November 03, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
I don't think it's anywhere near over.
Looking forward to a Jackson/Adams election.  :-[  But could, like that, result in new Parties being formed.  :D

I'm more concerned with down ballot, state and local elections, local bond issues, etc. Important to vote even if one is concerned, or hate, the two choices the system has given us. The President shouldn't have so much power, if we stuck with the idea of the Founders it wouldn't be so much a concern. A concern, of course, but not so vital with the aggrandizement of Federal and Executive power over the years.

Quote from: onan on November 03, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
I don't think it's anywhere near over.

Of course it's not over. A lot of folks like yourself--will still end up voting for her. Let's not forget about the portion whom simply want a woman in the white house. Oh, and the idiots voting for Egg McMuffin.

What's wrong with Egg McMuffins? I would prefer an Egg McMuffin as President over Hillary Clinton.

mikuthing01

I'm writing in Jeb!

slow and steady wins the race

Jeb! Would bring back the McRib.

Quote from: rekcuf on November 03, 2016, 10:15:37 AM
Of course it's not over. A lot of folks like yourself--will still end up voting for her. Let's not forget about the portion whom simply want a woman in the white house. Oh, and the idiots voting for Egg McMuffin.

Those idiots should have their franchise taken away.  I'd love to see a woman in the White House but not a corrupt woman.  These people that vote based solely on sex or race should not be allowed to vote.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Al Capones Vault on November 03, 2016, 10:09:55 AM
You'll be moving to Russia.

Still red baiting? I guess it's all you guys got left now.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Muccak9zo

CornyCrow

Quote from: Jackstar on November 03, 2016, 12:47:01 AM
So lemme get this straight--bad to ban all Muslims from entering the country, but good to ban Trump from the nomination.

You people are perverse.
Not ALL Muslims.  Look at Ali Velshi.  He believes in separation of mosque and state.  There are Muslims who think logically and independently.  The problem is, they are far from the majority. 

What Hillary means as 'moderate' is not what the public thinks of when they hear that word.  I think she means something like 'average' and 'majority' and those folks, in my opinion, are nto moderate at all.  The entire faith tends to be fundamentalist.  The true moderates are minorities on the fringes, unlike in most religions.   

Jackstar

Quote from: Segundus on November 03, 2016, 02:43:01 PM
Not ALL Muslims.

Forgive my ignorance (I am not a proponent of the proposal), but it was my understanding that a test of belief was not considered appropriate by hoi polloi when it was to be laid against 1.5 billion peaceful pilgrims, but one raving lunatic was okay to institutionally discriminate against.

My bad? Carry on.

Yorkshire pud



Alleged Weiner victim hits out at FBI over Clinton emails

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37857729


Quote
15-year-old girl who was allegedly sent indecent messages by former US congressman Anthony Weiner has criticisedthe director of the FBI.

The teenager said James Comey's decision to publicise part of the FBI's investigation into Mr Weiner had led to her being houndedby news reporters.

"Why couldn't your letter have waited until after the election, so I would not have to be the centre of attention the last week of the election cycle?"

[Sarcasm]
How dare she take issue with someone point scoring! Doesn't she understand that? [/Sarcasm]

CornyCrow

Quote from: Jackstar on November 03, 2016, 03:20:26 PM
Forgive my ignorance (I am not a proponent of the proposal), but it was my understanding that a test of belief was not considered appropriate by hoi polloi when it was to be laid against 1.5 billion peaceful pilgrims, but one raving lunatic was okay to institutionally discriminate against.

My bad? Carry on.
I didn't mean to be critical, but just that it's easy for me to fall into the 'ALL' trap and I must keep reminding myself of the Muslims who seem to be decent people, people for whom I have some admiration.   

Value Of Pi

"The guy does deserve a bullet. I mean, these aren't good people. These are horrible people."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/eric-trump-david-duke-bullet-230714#ixzz4OzqxVJ2y

Eric Trump on David Duke, who has apparently now become a big embarrassment to the Trump campaign. The Trump way is to advocate locking up or killing Americans who, in their judgment, don't deserve to be walking around.

But don't worry, they would never do that to you because, hey, you're you and you know you didn't do anything wrong. In fact, you even voted for Trump. So relax, you're safe, aren't you?

GravitySucks

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 03, 2016, 06:01:24 PM
"The guy does deserve a bullet. I mean, these aren't good people. These are horrible people."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/eric-trump-david-duke-bullet-230714#ixzz4OzqxVJ2y

Eric Trump on David Duke, who has apparently now become a big embarrassment to the Trump campaign. The Trump way is to advocate locking up or killing Americans who, in their judgment, don't deserve to be walking around.

But don't worry, they would never do that to you because, hey, you're you and you know you didn't do anything wrong. In fact, you even voted for Trump. So relax, you're safe, aren't you?

You would be more credible if you didn't crop his quote to make it meet your agenda.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: GravitySucks on November 03, 2016, 06:17:23 PM
You would be more credible if you didn't crop his quote to make it meet your agenda.

Here's the rest of the quote from the article. I don't see that it changes the sense of what I quoted. Context doesn't help here.

"If I said exactly what you said, I'd get killed for it but I think I'll say it anyway," he said. "The guy does deserve a bullet. I mean, these aren't good people. These are horrible people. In fact, I commend my father. My father's the first Republican who's gone out and said, 'Listen, what's happened to the African-American community is horrible and I'm going to take care of it.'"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/eric-trump-david-duke-bullet-230714#ixzz4OzzVNiTb

GravitySucks

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 03, 2016, 06:27:32 PM
Here's the rest of the quote from the article. I don't see that it changes the sense of what I quoted. Context doesn't help here.

"If I said exactly what you said, I'd get killed for it but I think I'll say it anyway," he said. "The guy does deserve a bullet. I mean, these aren't good people. These are horrible people. In fact, I commend my father. My father's the first Republican who's gone out and said, 'Listen, what's happened to the African-American community is horrible and I'm going to take care of it.'"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/eric-trump-david-duke-bullet-230714#ixzz4OzzVNiTb

I am sure David Duke appreciates your support.

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