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President Donald J. Trump

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Jackstar

Quote from: GravitySucks on November 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
I don't think I am going to believe a single thing in the news for the next week.



Think what you want--there's no disbelieving in dem tittys.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: GravitySucks on November 01, 2016, 04:38:11 PM
If the Cubs lose tonight I am not going to accept the results. It was rigged.

Of course, you've probably already filed the appropriate documents with the courts.  ;)

GravitySucks

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2016, 04:39:48 PM
Of course, you've probably already filed the appropriate documents with the courts.  ;)

I filed a batter suppression suit this morning.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar on November 01, 2016, 04:38:51 PM


Think what you want--there's no disbelieving in dem tittys.


Value Of Pi

Quote from: albrecht on November 01, 2016, 04:15:49 PM
Even Bloomberg's news, a billionaire internationalist against Trump, not just the FBI and the NYTimes (anti-Trump paper) has debunked the desperate attempts by Clinton and her minions and internet-posters about the Trump servers and Russia.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-01/clinton-plugs-another-weak-story-about-trump-s-ties-to-putin
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0

It is funny to see her and her supporters, sometimes literally supporters when she keeps over from too much booze or her health condition, struggle and squirm and try to come up with any crack-pot theory to take attention away from all her scandals.

The Trump server story was always a question mark with anyone looking at it halfway objectively, including those experts investigating it -- some of whom are Clinton supporters apparently. The larger story of the Russians trying to interfere in our election is on more solid ground, unless one chooses to have zero trust in our intelligence community. That choice is fairly popular these days.

I can say, based on what I was told by two friends at the FBI whose job (especially during the 1980s) was surveilling espionage suspects and known foreign spys, that what the public is told about various kinds of espionage activity is the tip of the iceberg. Worse than that, FBI resources were stretched then and are even more strained now, in the age of terrorism.

I would try to evaluate the information we have in a reasonable way, but without giving Putin, Mr. KGB, the benefit of the doubt.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 01, 2016, 05:15:15 PM
The Trump server story was always a question mark with anyone looking at it halfway objectively, including those experts investigating it -- some of whom are Clinton supporters apparently. The larger story of the Russians trying to interfere in our election is on more solid ground, unless one chooses to have zero trust in our intelligence community. That choice is fairly popular these days.

I can say, based on what I was told by two friends at the FBI whose job (especially during the 1980s) was surveilling espionage suspects and known foreign spys, that what the public is told about various kinds of espionage activity is the tip of the iceberg. Worse than that, FBI resources were stretched then and are even more strained now, in the age of terrorism.

I would try to evaluate the information we have in a reasonable way, but without giving Putin, Mr. KGB, the benefit of the doubt.

Ummm...yeah...sure...k... :-\

albrecht

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 01, 2016, 05:15:15 PM
The Trump server story was always a question mark with anyone looking at it halfway objectively, including those experts investigating it -- some of whom are Clinton supporters apparently. The larger story of the Russians trying to interfere in our election is on more solid ground, unless one chooses to have zero trust in our intelligence community. That choice is fairly popular these days.

I can say, based on what I was told by two friends at the FBI whose job (especially during the 1980s) was surveilling espionage suspects and known foreign spys, that what the public is told about various kinds of espionage activity is the tip of the iceberg. Worse than that, FBI resources were stretched then and are even more strained now, in the age of terrorism.

I would try to evaluate the information we have in a reasonable way, but without giving Putin, Mr. KGB, the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah, and much of the stuff that the left still claims was bogus "McCarthyism!" etc turned out to be true once we gained access to Statsi records, Venona Papers, Mitrokhin Archive, etc. Heck, even our "friends" like France and Israel spy on stuff and steal corporate as well as military secrets. One big thing I disagreed with was the creation of the DHS and reorganization of security agencies and more "sharing." I think this makes infiltration, hacking, or spying more possible- especially for dedicated and highly trained enemies. Stupid to reorganize the system based on some threat from backwards Muslims- especially if we really thought we had a threat we would secure our border, monitor our VISA program, not import more of them, and act on intelligence we had about the terrorists, instead of political correctness or something, preventing that. But you shouldn't organize or overhaul a system based on one event (well a few events at the same time) and in a rush.

Jackstar

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 01, 2016, 05:15:15 PM
I can say, based on what I was told by two friends at the FBI whose job (especially during the 1980s) was


Value Of Pi

Quote from: albrecht on November 01, 2016, 05:46:09 PM
Yeah, and much of the stuff that the left still claims was bogus "McCarthyism!" etc turned out to be true once we gained access to Statsi records, Venona Papers, Mitrokhin Archive, etc. Heck, even our "friends" like France and Israel spy on stuff and steal corporate as well as military secrets. One big thing I disagreed with was the creation of the DHS and reorganization of security agencies and more "sharing." I think this makes infiltration, hacking, or spying more possible- especially for dedicated and highly trained enemies. Stupid to reorganize the system based on some threat from backwards Muslims- especially if we really thought we had a threat we would secure our border, monitor our VISA program, not import more of them, and act on intelligence we had about the terrorists, instead of political correctness or something, preventing that. But you shouldn't organize or overhaul a system based on one event (well a few events at the same time) and in a rush.

I see advantages and disadvantages to the DHS approach to homeland security but one innovation in information "sharing" that's all negative in this regard is the Internet/Digital Age. It has opened up a whole new frontier for spying and for warfare which we are only beginning to see being exploited.

Things were bad enough when we just had to worry about the human factor; the current technology makes those risks exponentially worse. But, you know, downloading movies is nice so who's going to complain?

theONE

Quote from: chefist on November 01, 2016, 05:50:10 AM
Snowflakes are crying and whining...



very soon snowflakes will be melting, hehehehe hehe

albrecht

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 01, 2016, 06:28:16 PM
I see advantages and disadvantages to the DHS approach to homeland security but one innovation in information "sharing" that's all negative in this regard is the Internet/Digital Age. It has opened up a whole new frontier for spying and for warfare which we are only beginning to see being exploited.

Things were bad enough when we just had to worry about the human factor; the current technology makes those risks exponentially worse. But, you know, downloading movies is nice so who's going to complain?
Ha, yeah, nice for downloading movies but not so good for the hackers, terrorists, or foreign governments downloading our personal information (why I'm against all these government databases,) national security secrets, technical plans, corporate information, or military plans and designs. Also, all of the "outsourcing," even to foreign companies, means more opportunity for stuff to be stolen.
With regard to DHS, I understand the idea and potential benefits but also like the more checks and balances and redundancy with multiple agencies (sometimes even competing with each other) of different agencies, I include this down to a local level versus "top-down' command and control over everything. This also might result in different methods, different specialization, different ideas. Of course there should be sharing of information but in a compartmentalized and secure, legal manner. Not to go 'tin-foil' hat but too much centralization also could lead to a 'deep state' whose interests don't align with the people or even official government policy.

theONE

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 01, 2016, 11:06:59 AM

But that isn't what he said. He said he would deport 2 million in the first hour. A pledge to his adoring throng of white low educated fans, who naturally cheered because they believed him. Basic arithmetic shows its impossible, but he said it anyway.

Dear pud ,you starting to embarrass yourself with this constant drilling, and you starting to sound like one insignificant
poster here who was whining almost every night for the whole year that she didn't get birthday wishes from Hoagie, LOL

Dear pud please change the record:)

theONE

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 01, 2016, 12:23:06 PM
I answered and you refused to accept my answer. I deferred to Justice Roberts and what he wrote in that decision regarding fundamental rights.  Unelected federal judges should not be deciding which rights were fundamental.  That should be the left to the states and the US Congress and I completely agree.  Get it.  Got it.  Good. I'm done with you.  Reading comprehension is obviously not your forte.

you know that wise saying ..."you step in the shit /turd/ you will have to clean your shoes"... LOL
GS give very good advise -136Bitchy Poofta after wishing you painful death will indeed cal you a Hitler.
Can you imagine how aggressive person 136 is in real life, if he had a gun in Canada he will be shooting those
who didn't agree with him on the spot, never mind if they prove to him that he was manipulating facts,,,

He is feeding of your energy 21

theONE

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2016, 12:55:46 PM
That makes me want to vote for him even more. Those assholes have been ruining our country for years now.  ;)

haha ha ha ha

theONE

Quote from: Juan on November 01, 2016, 01:07:01 PM
A new survey says 35% of federal employees will quit if Trump is elected.  A good reason to vote for him.

good let them go...they will be replaced with competent people

theONE

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 01, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
Did those deportations occur at 33000 per minute in Obama's first hour in office? Trump has promised such a throughput.

Dear pud , if you don't stop your insanity...I'm going to pee in your tee

WOTR

Quote from: Al Capones Vault on November 01, 2016, 01:42:40 PM
On CTR's website, they list the top social media sites where they were going to correct the record on some specific subjects, but said they always disclose up-front that they are representing the PAC. Is that true? Who knows. But while I'm sure they're heavily invested in what's going on at Bellgab, the scope at which Trump fans think the PAC operates on the internet has become an insane urban myth. It's also an easy way of dismissing any information they'd rather not accept.
When they first announced this as a "strategy", I had posted here that is the worst idea ever.  They are going to negate any "grassroots" support they might get as everybody will suddenly be suspicious of why somebody is supporting them.

The Bellgab experience (where somebody honestly believes that they are paying posters to sway the opinion on a rather small, obscure board) pretty much proves the point.  That was the worst strategy every conceived.

Jackstar

Quote from: WOTR on November 01, 2016, 08:04:32 PM
a rather small, obscure board

This is where top minds gather.

theONE

Quote from: WOTR on November 01, 2016, 08:04:32 PM
When they first announced this as a "strategy", I had posted here that is the worst idea ever.  They are going to negate any "grassroots" support they might get as everybody will suddenly be suspicious of why somebody is supporting them.

The Bellgab experience (where somebody honestly believes that they are paying posters to sway the opinion on a rather small, obscure board) pretty much proves the point.  That was the worst strategy every conceived.


BellGab stats: 1,465,559 Posts in 6,670 Topics by 4,187 Members.

...not that small, also remember that BellGab is connected with Art Bell who has 31,307 Followers,
I'm 99% sure Hillry has her paid shills-snitches her --in my opinion Canadian agent 136Bitchy Poofta is one of them.
Interesting fact,..3-4 weeks ago I posted here couple of different times video documentary about Bill's Clinton Arkansas tinted blood scandal
and I checked that link today and it is disconnected on youtube -- I wouldn't be surprised if 136 snitched about it

albrecht

Quote from: theONE on November 01, 2016, 08:26:18 PM

BellGab stats: 1,465,559 Posts in 6,670 Topics by 4,187 Members.

...not that small, also remember that BellGab is connected with Art Bell who has 31,307 Followers,
I'm 99% sure Hillry has her paid shills-snitches her --in my opinion Canadian agent 136Bitchy Poofta is one of them.
Interesting fact,..3-4 weeks ago I posted here couple of different times video documentary about Bill's Clinton Arkansas tinted blood scandal
and I checked that link today and it is disconnected on youtube -- I wouldn't be surprised if 136 snitched about it
It is sort of like Art Bell sites or etc stuff that host Art, Hendrie, movies, C2C, etc that might be legally questionable. Post the information or data or comment (like stuff on the Clinton Blood Scandal) but if the link is questionable don't publicly post it or say 'PM me for link' (and don't reply with link to people that might have alternative agendas.) That way they aren't taken down quickly.

theONE

Quote from: albrecht on November 01, 2016, 08:29:15 PM
It is sort of like Art Bell sites or etc stuff that host Art, Hendrie, movies, C2C, etc that might be legally questionable. Post the information or data or comment (like stuff on the Clinton Blood Scandal) but if the link is questionable don't publicly post it or say 'PM me for link' (and don't reply with link to people that might have alternative agendas.) That way they aren't taken down quickly.

good idea,
also I posted today youtube links about Clinton's and missing millions of dollars donated to people of Haiti
and it's portraying Clintons and their foundation in a very very bad light -let's hope that it will not be taken down

albrecht

Quote from: theONE on November 01, 2016, 08:34:47 PM
good idea,
also I posted today youtube links about Clinton's and missing millions of dollars donated to people of Haiti
and it's portraying Clintons and their foundation in a very very bad light -let's hope that it will not be taken down
Lots of stuff is ok, but if it is questionable or possibly violating copyright or other possible TOS of youtube, vimeo, etc than go private. (Not that encourage violating copyrights or any laws but with the vast number of laws, jurisdictional issues, changing laws and regulations it is better to be safe.)

Quote from: albrecht on November 01, 2016, 05:46:09 PM
Yeah, and much of the stuff that the left still claims was bogus "McCarthyism!" etc turned out to be true once we gained access to Statsi records, Venona Papers, Mitrokhin Archive, etc. Heck, even our "friends" like France and Israel spy on stuff and steal corporate as well as military secrets. One big thing I disagreed with was the creation of the DHS and reorganization of security agencies and more "sharing." I think this makes infiltration, hacking, or spying more possible- especially for dedicated and highly trained enemies. Stupid to reorganize the system based on some threat from backwards Muslims- especially if we really thought we had a threat we would secure our border, monitor our VISA program, not import more of them, and act on intelligence we had about the terrorists, instead of political correctness or something, preventing that. But you shouldn't organize or overhaul a system based on one event (well a few events at the same time) and in a rush.

With DHS, the government created another unnecessary bureaucracy.  We already had agencies in place to take care of homeland security.  Another wasn't needed.  I think it was when Bush did that, I became far less enamored of him.  That proved he was just another big government politician.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 01, 2016, 08:56:58 PM
With DHS, the government created another unnecessary bureaucracy.  We already had agencies in place to take care of homeland security.  Another wasn't needed.  I think it was when Bush did that, I became far less enamored of him.  That proved he was just another big government politician.

The problem that forced the creation of DHS absolutely needed to be solved. The 9/11 Commission findings were very clear that the attacks could have been disrupted or prevented if agencies had been mandated to share critical information instead of sitting on it.

So far, DHS seems to have done a good job based on the number of serious terrorist attacks that law enforcement has prevented. The major attacks have all been abroad and none have been on a scale of 9/11 or the London attacks in the last ten years or so. If there was a better, more effective answer than DHS, what was it exactly?

starrmtn001

Full Speech: Donald Trump Rally in Eau Claire, WI 11/1/16.

https://youtu.be/1cxw0HrFf00

Jackstar

Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 01, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
The problem that forced the creation of DHS absolutely needed to be solved.




Quote from: Value Of Pi on November 01, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
The 9/11 Commission findings were very clear

It was a cover-up from the get-go and your incessant shilling for that bullshit story amounts to race treason. I hope you get a rash somewhere fatal.



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: starrmtn001 on November 02, 2016, 08:27:07 AM

Awesome video, Chefist!  Kudos to you!!!

Quite a low bar to use awesome, but whatever floats your boat.

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