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theONE

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 14, 2016, 03:26:20 AM
You can't be arsed to click a link and yet I'm lazy? You'll never make America great with your attitude. Trump won't be happy.

It's not about being arsed but being careful that you might set some indecent link to trick me.

Here, to prove that I'm not being arsed I made it for my self [and you], ..now go and stuff yourself

/I'm surprised at my self that after last night partying I did I feel so good this morning/
METAXA brandy is like medicine...like no other brandy

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Zetaspeak

Gotta love Trump supporters, the people who are yelling to "Lock somebody up" without even a trial are now super serious about innocent until proven guilty.

I think the only fair to do is have Trump banned to be around women, just until we "know what's going on" isn't that his solution for problems?

In other Trump lie news

Despite 2001 Promise, Donald Trump Made No 9/11 Donations in Year After Attack, Audit Finds

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nyc-audit-finds-donald-trump-donations-911-months/story?id=42801444

Shock story, Trump lies again.

theONE

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 14, 2016, 08:36:41 AM
Gotta love Trump supporters, the people who are yelling to "Lock somebody up" without even a trial are now super serious about innocent until proven guilty.

I think the only fair to do is have Trump banned to be around women, just until we "know what's going on" isn't that his solution for problems?

In other Trump lie news

Despite 2001 Promise, Donald Trump Made No 9/11 Donations in Year After Attack, Audit Finds

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nyc-audit-finds-donald-trump-donations-911-months/story?id=42801444

Shock story, Trump lies again.

..can you post how much Hillry donated ?

Quote from: theONE on October 14, 2016, 08:46:18 AM
..can you post how much Hillry donated ?
Also, could you tell me how much money the Clintons gave to the hurricane victims in Haiti?

theONE

Quote from: Inglorious Bitch on October 14, 2016, 08:48:32 AM
Also, could you tell me how much money the Clintons gave to the hurricane victims in Haiti?
good point IB !!!
hehe,..rather how much they stole from them

albrecht

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 14, 2016, 03:24:54 AM
I don't know about all of Canada but the team radio play by play broadcaster Jerry Howarth hasn't been saying "Indians" for years.  It seems nobody noticed until now.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2016/10/blue_jays_radio_broadcaster_je.html

Most of the comments on the story there are pretty lame, in my opinion.  Everybody is offended at things other people find offensive, until they're offended over something themselves.
I'm offended by the Minnesota Vikings due to my heritage!  ;)
I can understand, a bit, about "Redskins," maybe but why Indians are outraged, well actually most aren't it is white leftists who pretend to be, teams being named after Indians or associated terms (Chiefs, Fighting Souix, Indians, etc) is offensive? Why not be proud of a hard-fighting heritage or being on a winning team? I could understand outrage over, for example, the old Malt Liquor being named after Crazy Horse, due to the rampant amount of alcoholism in the Indian population but a sports team that is successful?

Zetaspeak

Quote from: theONE on October 14, 2016, 08:46:18 AM
..can you post how much Hillry donated ?

What ever she did, it would be in her taxes that she released.




theONE

Quote from: albrecht on October 14, 2016, 08:51:49 AM
I'm offended by the Minnesota Vikings due to my heritage!  ;)
I can understand, a bit, about "Redskins," maybe but why Indians are outraged, well actually most aren't it is white leftists who pretend to be, teams being named after Indians or associated terms (Chiefs, Fighting Souix, Indians, etc) is offensive? Why not be proud of a hard-fighting heritage or being on a winning team? I could understand outrage over, for example, the old Malt Liquor being named after Crazy Horse, due to the rampant amount of alcoholism in the Indian population but a sports team that is successful?

HAHAHA, LOL

Agreed !!!
Indians/natives in America-Canada are missing the 'boat' with this illogical outrage

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Jackstar

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 14, 2016, 08:55:25 AM
What ever she did, it would be in her taxes that she released.

The level of implicit trust in this statement, staggers my imagination.

I'm starting to grow oblivious about these claims being made by various accusers of Trump coming forward now.  Why didn't these ladies take Trump to court back in the day for groping?  The latest accuser brought up the incident to a group of friends over a lunch shortly after the event.  I don't think the incident traumatized her.  She laughed it off from what I read. That sort of behavior happens all the time in nightclubs. Trump is a pig, no doubt, but unless he actually raped someone, so what?  He has done nothing on the level that Bill Clinton did.  No, this is rigged to try and take Trump down.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 14, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
I'm starting to grow oblivious about these claims being made by various accusers of Trump coming forward now.  Why didn't these ladies take Trump to court back in the day for groping?  The latest accuser brought up the incident to a group of friends over a lunch shortly after the event.  I don't think the incident traumatized her.  She laughed it off from what I read. That sort of behavior happens all the time in nightclubs. Trump is a pig, no doubt, but unless he actually raped someone, so what?  He has done nothing on the level that Bill Clinton did.  No, this is rigged to try and take Trump down.

It's interesting (and telling) how the media perseverated over the Trump tape. And how some in the media *cough* (Anderson Cooper) used what Trump said, then expanded his words into actions. Criminal actions. Let's not pretend sexual assualt accusations aren't taken seriously. A sexual assualt accusation is the most damaging claim that can be made against a man.

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on October 14, 2016, 08:51:49 AM
I'm offended by the Minnesota Vikings due to my heritage!  ;)
I can understand, a bit, about "Redskins," maybe but why Indians are outraged, well actually most aren't it is white leftists who pretend to be, teams being named after Indians or associated terms (Chiefs, Fighting Souix, Indians, etc) is offensive? Why not be proud of a hard-fighting heritage or being on a winning team? I could understand outrage over, for example, the old Malt Liquor being named after Crazy Horse, due to the rampant amount of alcoholism in the Indian population but a sports team that is successful?

If you read the story, Jerry Howarth said he stopped referring to them as the Indians after receiving a letter from an indigenous Canadian.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 14, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
I'm starting to grow oblivious about these claims being made by various accusers of Trump coming forward now.  Why didn't these ladies take Trump to court back in the day for groping?  The latest accuser brought up the incident to a group of friends over a lunch shortly after the event.  I don't think the incident traumatized her.  She laughed it off from what I read. That sort of behavior happens all the time in nightclubs. Trump is a pig, no doubt, but unless he actually raped someone, so what?  He has done nothing on the level that Bill Clinton did.  No, this is rigged to try and take Trump down.

Bill Clinton's accusers should be believed even though they didn't come forward until years later.
Donald Trump's accusers should not be believed because they didn't come forward until years later.

Logic isn't exactly your strong suit.

For what it's worth, there are quite a number of women who made accusations of these sorts against Donald Trump up to many years previously.

Jackstar

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 14, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
Bill Clinton's accusers should be believed even though they didn't come forward until years later.

Let's not bother with belief. Let's just count them.

136 or 142

Quote from: Jackstar on October 14, 2016, 12:00:50 PM
Let's not bother with belief. Let's just count them.

Go for it.

CornyCrow

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 14, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
I'm starting to grow oblivious about these claims being made by various accusers of Trump coming forward now.  Why didn't these ladies take Trump to court back in the day for groping?  The latest accuser brought up the incident to a group of friends over a lunch shortly after the event.  I don't think the incident traumatized her.  She laughed it off from what I read. That sort of behavior happens all the time in nightclubs. Trump is a pig, no doubt, but unless he actually raped someone, so what?  He has done nothing on the level that Bill Clinton did.  No, this is rigged to try and take Trump down.
I don't know what Bill did or did not do, but the guy is not running for office.  His wife is.  A wife should not be made to bear the sins of her husband, as Josephine Ferraro was. 


theONE

Several months ago Hather was talking on MITD about how Hillry was hating her male SECURITY stuff at the Oval Office,
making them turn towards the walls when she was walking, putting up dividers so she doesn't have to look at their faces, etc-etc

Anybody remembers that ??
Maybe somebody has the links to those stories,...would be nice to expose again how Hillry is hating males ,..to offset the attacks on Trump
hating women.

Just to keep things in the balance... haha


136 or 142

Quote from: Segundus on October 14, 2016, 12:07:04 PM
I don't know what Bill did or did not do, but the guy is not running for office.  His wife is.  A wife should not be made to bear the sins of her husband, as Josephine Ferraro was.

To correct the record, it was Geraldine Ferraro.

analog kid

Quote from: theONE on October 14, 2016, 12:10:42 PM
That guy is making good sense.

Who are you going to believe, the women who said he did it, or the guy who says he does it? It can be tough to decide.

Quote from: Segundus on October 14, 2016, 12:07:04 PM
I don't know what Bill did or did not do, but the guy is not running for office.  His wife is.  A wife should not be made to bear the sins of her husband, as Josephine Ferraro was.

Bill will be running the economy. Hillary said so.  You get two for the price of one.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 14, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
Bill Clinton's accusers should be believed even though they didn't come forward until years later.
Donald Trump's accusers should not be believed because they didn't come forward until years later.

Logic isn't exactly your strong suit.

For what it's worth, there are quite a number of women who made accusations of these sorts against Donald Trump up to many years previously.

lol, "logic." Only if it suits your views/beliefs, right? You aren't logical. You're a simple minded Hillary apologist. The woman has zero, yes, ZERO accomplishments as a politician.

Senator Hillary Clinton, 8 years, 718 pieces of legislation she sponsored/co-sponsored... only 3 became law.

S.3145 - A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the “Timothy J. Russert Highway”.

S.3613 - A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the “Major George Quamo Post Office Building”.

S.1241 - Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act

Hillary Clinton passed laws that made ordinary places, buildings, roads, into "historical sites".



CornyCrow

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 14, 2016, 12:11:02 PM
To correct the record, it was Geraldine Ferraro.
Thanks.  It's been a while.

136 or 142

Quote from: rekcuf on October 14, 2016, 12:48:27 PM
lol, "logic." Only if it suits your views/beliefs, right? You aren't logical. You're a simple minded Hillary apologist. The woman has zero, yes, ZERO accomplishments as a politician.

Senator Hillary Clinton, 8 years, 718 pieces of legislation she sponsored/co-sponsored... only 3 became law.

S.3145 - A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the “Timothy J. Russert Highway”.

S.3613 - A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the “Major George Quamo Post Office Building”.

S.1241 - Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act

Hillary Clinton passed laws that made ordinary places, buildings, roads, into "historical sites".

Did Hillary Clinton have her name on only three laws in eight years as Jeb Bush says?

By Amy Sherman on Tuesday, June 23rd, 2015 at 10:00 a.m.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jun/23/jeb-bush/did-hillary-clinton-have-her-name-only-three-laws-/

But there are other ways that Senators can influence legislation even if they don’t end up as the sponsor of the final version:

Co-sponsored bills: There were 74 bills that became law that Clinton co-sponsored. For example, she was one of 54 cosponsors on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, signed in January 2009 by President Barack Obama. (The fact that she co-sponsored these bills doesn’t tell us much about her role in their passage, but Bush referred to bills that "she has her name" on, so it’s worth noting those she co-sponsored.)

She co-sponsored one version but another version passed: For example, she co-sponsored S.1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in January 2009 while the version that passed was H.R. 1.

Sponsored amendments: She put forward amendments that influenced laws sponsored by others. She sponsored three amendments on a bill for security and disaster funding. The amendments passed in 2007 and the bill passed in 2008.

Two experts who study Congress -- Norman Ornstein, a scholar at American Enterprise Institute, and Sarah Binder, a political science professor at George Washington University and Brookings Institution scholar -- said that the number of sponsored or co-sponsored bills signed into law isn’t a thorough measure of effectiveness or productivity for a member of the Senate.

"Offering amendments on the floor, holding hearings, contributing to oversight, helping to negotiate agreements, pushing federal agencies to be responsive to constituents back home -- all of these might contribute to making a senator ‘effective,’ but none of these endeavors of course would show up in a count of bills sponsored or passed or enacted," Binder said.

As for Bush’s claim about the number of laws "she has her name on," Binder said that it’s fair game to also look at the number of bills Clinton co-sponsored.

"Because ‘have her name on’ is so vague, I don't see the grounds on which to exclude co-sponsored bills," she said. 

Ornstein said that the names that go on bills of any real significance are the committee chairs -- for example the Dodd-Frank 2010 banking reform bill. Sen. Chris Dodd and U.S. Rep. Barney Frank were the major figures behind the law, but other senators also had roles and don’t have their names on the bill.

Meanwhile, the Affordable Care Act "does not have Al Franken's name on it, but a really important provision, the medical-loss ratio, was his handiwork," Ornstein said. "Effectiveness can be a behind-the-scenes role, adding a serious amendment, working inside to get the language exactly right. By any reasonable standard, including the private comments of her colleagues on both sides of the aisle when she was in the Senate, she was very effective."



Quoting a Jeb Bush talking point is highly illogical.

CornyCrow

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 14, 2016, 12:29:08 PM
Bill will be running the economy. Hillary said so.  You get two for the price of one.
My entire retirement was funded by the Clinton economy.  There are things I dislike him for, Nafta, Cafta, Waco;  but halving welfare and balancing the budget were positive things.  I don't give a rat's petutie about Monica.  If he made public statements degrading women I'd have been up in arms.  I don't know how honest his accusers are, and I don't know how honest Trump's accusers are.  I do know that Trump made public statements that treat women like meat and he's called his daughter a hot piece of a __.  Trump is a little lower than pond scum in my book. 

I would love to revisit the dot com stock market once again, but that's not attributable to Bill. 

I suspect that presidents and ex-presidents on both sides of the aisle have profited from the illegal drug trade. 

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 14, 2016, 12:54:57 PM
Did Hillary Clinton have her name on only three laws in eight years as Jeb Bush says?

By Amy Sherman on Tuesday, June 23rd, 2015 at 10:00 a.m.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/jun/23/jeb-bush/did-hillary-clinton-have-her-name-only-three-laws-/

But there are other ways that Senators can influence legislation even if they don’t end up as the sponsor of the final version:

Co-sponsored bills: There were 74 bills that became law that Clinton co-sponsored. For example, she was one of 54 cosponsors on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, signed in January 2009 by President Barack Obama. (The fact that she co-sponsored these bills doesn’t tell us much about her role in their passage, but Bush referred to bills that "she has her name" on, so it’s worth noting those she co-sponsored.)

She co-sponsored one version but another version passed: For example, she co-sponsored S.1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in January 2009 while the version that passed was H.R. 1.

Sponsored amendments: She put forward amendments that influenced laws sponsored by others. She sponsored three amendments on a bill for security and disaster funding. The amendments passed in 2007 and the bill passed in 2008.

Two experts who study Congress -- Norman Ornstein, a scholar at American Enterprise Institute, and Sarah Binder, a political science professor at George Washington University and Brookings Institution scholar -- said that the number of sponsored or co-sponsored bills signed into law isn’t a thorough measure of effectiveness or productivity for a member of the Senate.

"Offering amendments on the floor, holding hearings, contributing to oversight, helping to negotiate agreements, pushing federal agencies to be responsive to constituents back home -- all of these might contribute to making a senator ‘effective,’ but none of these endeavors of course would show up in a count of bills sponsored or passed or enacted," Binder said.

As for Bush’s claim about the number of laws "she has her name on," Binder said that it’s fair game to also look at the number of bills Clinton co-sponsored.

"Because ‘have her name on’ is so vague, I don't see the grounds on which to exclude co-sponsored bills," she said. 

Ornstein said that the names that go on bills of any real significance are the committee chairs -- for example the Dodd-Frank 2010 banking reform bill. Sen. Chris Dodd and U.S. Rep. Barney Frank were the major figures behind the law, but other senators also had roles and don’t have their names on the bill.

Meanwhile, the Affordable Care Act "does not have Al Franken's name on it, but a really important provision, the medical-loss ratio, was his handiwork," Ornstein said. "Effectiveness can be a behind-the-scenes role, adding a serious amendment, working inside to get the language exactly right. By any reasonable standard, including the private comments of her colleagues on both sides of the aisle when she was in the Senate, she was very effective."



Quoting a Jeb Bush talking point is highly illogical.

Facts will never be illogical, friendo. :)  These facts regarding Hillary don't support you or your beliefs about her. NEXT!

Quote from: Segundus on October 14, 2016, 01:02:56 PM
My entire retirement was funded by the Clinton economy.  There are things I dislike him for, Nafta, Cafta, Waco;  but halving welfare and balancing the budget were positive things.  I don't give a rat's petutie about Monica.  If he made public statements degrading women I'd have been up in arms.  I don't know how honest his accusers are, and I don't know how honest Trump's accusers are.  I do know that Trump made public statements that treat women like meat and he's called his daughter a hot piece of a __.  Trump is a little lower than pond scum in my book. 

I would love to revisit the dot com stock market once again, but that's not attributable to Bill. 

I suspect that presidents and ex-presidents on both sides of the aisle have profited from the illegal drug trade.

Remember, Bill isn't running for office...

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