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Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

136 or 142

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 01, 2016, 01:11:23 AM
It's flattering when people here parrot my own lines back to me. I'm sure you'll have an original thought one day. Don't stop believing!  :D

Now I’ve always been the kind of person that doesn’t like to trespass
but sometimes you just find yourself over the line
Oh if there’s an original thought out there, I could use it right now

136 or 142

Well, there was this movie I seen one time
About a man riding ’cross the desert and it starred Gregory Peck
He was shot down by a hungry kid trying to make a name for himself
The townspeople wanted to crush that kid down and string him up by the neck

Well, the marshal, now he beat that kid to a bloody pulp
As the dying gunfighter lay in the sun and gasped for his last breath
“Turn him loose, let him go, let him say he outdrew me fair and square
I want him to feel what it’s like to every moment face his death”

Yorkshire pud

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Several conservative or apolitical newspapers also refused to endorse Trump this week. On Friday, the San Diego Union Tribune, which has endorsed every Republican presidential candidate since 1868, announced that it would back Hillary Clinton. In doing so, its editorial board wrote “Trump could be our Chávez, our Kirchner. We cannot take that risk.”

It was joined by USA Today, which issued its first-ever presidential endorsement to write that Trump was “unfit for the presidency”. The national paper did not endorse Clinton but merely urged readers to vote for anyone but Trump. Other papers have broken their conservative record to back Clinton, including the Arizona Republic and the Cincinnati Enquirer. A number of other traditionally conservative papers, such as the Chicago Tribune and the Detroit News, have endorsed Libertarian Gary Johnson instead of Trump.

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Late Friday, BuzzFeed found that Trump had a cameo in an explicit Playboy video made in 2000, prompting a response from Clinton campaign spokesman Nick Merrill. “There’s been a lot of talk about sex tapes today, and in a strange turn of events only one adult film has emerged today and its star is Donald Trump,” Merrill told reporters.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/30/donald-trump-alicia-machado-sex-tape-accusations-clinton?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=192877&subid=11301906&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 01, 2016, 01:41:41 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/30/donald-trump-alicia-machado-sex-tape-accusations-clinton?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=192877&subid=11301906&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

"...asking Barack Obama to pledge not to 'pardon Hillary Clinton and her co-conspirators for their many crimes against our country and against society itself'."

This bit here says to me that he's starting to cross from his usual craziness into genuine psychosis. We need to get him into a hospital for a psych evaluation. That wouldn't give his supporters pause but a professional diagnosis would be very helpful nevertheless.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Value Of Pi on October 01, 2016, 02:00:16 AM
"...asking Barack Obama to pledge not to 'pardon Hillary Clinton and her co-conspirators for their many crimes against our country and against society itself'."

This bit here says to me that he's starting to cross from his usual craziness into genuine psychosis. We need to get him into a hospital for a psych evaluation. That wouldn't give his supporters pause but a professional diagnosis would be very helpful nevertheless.

Yeah, but they'd want to be certain the psychiatrist had been a signed up Republican since conception; together with their family, all their friends and their friends going back to at least before Noah built his ark. Even then they'd throw doubt on their professional credentials because they once had a fight aged eight.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 01, 2016, 02:06:43 AM
Yeah, but they'd want to be certain the psychiatrist had been a signed up Republican since conception; together with their family, all their friends and their friends going back to at least before Noah built his ark. Even then they'd throw doubt on their professional credentials because they once had a fight aged eight.

Things would probably only get to this stage if he had some kind of public episode (the next debate is a possibility) where it was undeniable to those present that he was in a crisis and possibly a "psych case." His people rush to get him off stage, frantic consultations about what to do, someone calls a doctor, the doctor calls for a consult and there you go.

Yes, there would be a huge fuss and debate about replacing him, with some cover story about a medical condition causing his symptoms. Pence then moves up one notch on the ticket.

CornyCrow

Quote from: 21st Century Man on September 30, 2016, 08:03:40 PM
Since when have I ever put on a holier than thou air? Check that. I am better than you but so is everybody else on this board. I'm just a normal man with the typical weaknesses.  We all have them.  Have I ever said that I was a great Christian?  No, because I'm not.  I aspire to be better but I confess I don't do a very good job.
Judge not, lest ye be judged. 
We are all imperfect.  We're on this planet as a learning experience.  We each are at a different stage of development, so it's not a wise thing to compare one to the other.   But that's just my belief.

Quote from: Segundus on October 01, 2016, 03:48:00 AM
Judge not, lest ye be judged. 
We are all imperfect.  We're on this planet as a learning experience.  We each are at a different stage of development, so it's not a wise thing to compare one to the other.   But that's just my belief.

Hey, nothing wrong with that. I was a practitioner of Nichiren Daishonin Buddhism for a bit when I was trying to find myself and grasp our purpose here on earth. We all return home in the end. ;)


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: FightTheFuture on October 01, 2016, 07:08:55 AM
Hey, nothing wrong with that. I was a practitioner of Nichiren Daishonin Buddhism for a bit when I was trying to find myself and grasp our purpose here on earth. We all return home in the end. ;)

Indeed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH8zLaZHAk

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 01, 2016, 08:17:09 AM
Indeed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH8zLaZHAk

GREAT film! Loved it. Maybe Tarantino`s best. Thanks for that snippet, "doc"

Quote from: Segundus on October 01, 2016, 03:48:00 AM
Judge not, lest ye be judged. 
We are all imperfect.  We're on this planet as a learning experience.  We each are at a different stage of development, so it's not a wise thing to compare one to the other.   But that's just my belief.

Couldn't agree more. I was just being snarky.  I have no idea what Donny Noory is like away from the board.  He never says anything positive about anybody on here though.  He's always out to get a rise out of somebody.

Donald Noory

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 01, 2016, 10:23:03 AM
Couldn't agree more. I was just being snarky.  I have no idea what Donny Noory is like away from the board.  He never says anything positive about anybody on here though.  He's always out to get a rise out of somebody.



CornyCrow

Quote from: Donald Noory on October 01, 2016, 11:45:09 AM

My idea of Christianity is that they formatted it with such high standards that you can NEVER meet the mark.  Therefore, you eternally feel guilty, which keeps you coming back to the religion, begging for forgiveness. 


Quote from: Segundus on October 01, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
My idea of Christianity is that they formatted it with such high standards that you can NEVER meet the mark.  Therefore, you eternally feel guilty, which keeps you coming back to the religion, begging for forgiveness.

That is true.  When I say I'm a Christian, what I am saying is I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ.  He is the only person in history that appears to be worthy of emulation.  However most of us can't rise to that ideal.  We really don't know much about the man beyond the Gospels.  I am not a Pauline Christian as I have my problems with some of his writings.  Nor am I necessarily a big believer in Revelation though it could be true.  Most fundamentalists would have huge problems with some of my beliefs.  I believe in reincarnation for example.  I have a huge problem with the idea of a permanent Hell.

I mainly stick with the Gospels and what Jesus says in them.  That is the grounding for my faith.  However, can any of us really emulate Jesus?  We are told he was God in human form in other words, he was perfect.  We can strive for perfection but we will fail.    I used to self-flagellate myself in a metaphorical sense because I could not live up to my expectations.  No more.  I'll confess I'm in a spot in my life where I don't try that hard any more and I just accept myself for what I am. A flawed human who is basically good which I believe many people are.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Segundus on October 01, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
My idea of Christianity is that they formatted it with such high standards that you can NEVER meet the mark.  Therefore, you eternally feel guilty, which keeps you coming back to the religion, begging for forgiveness.

Nietzsche had similar ideas about it. He said it was a religion of shame, that tries to shame you into believing. He saw this exemplified in the Christian dictate to "turn the other cheek" Rather than trying to elevate yourself above your aggressor by shaming them in this way he said that whenever anyone does you evil you should give them seven little evils in return so that they won't be so alone in their evil.  ;)

GravitySucks

Quote from: Segundus on October 01, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
My idea of Christianity is that they formatted it with such high standards that you can NEVER meet the mark.  Therefore, you eternally feel guilty, which keeps you coming back to the religion, begging for forgiveness.

That's not my idea and I don't think Jesus Christ saw it that way either.

Some denominations may structure their beliefs in a manner you described, but that has not been my experience.

I was raised Catholic and can certainly relate to the guilt. Today I am non-denominational. If you read the New Testament, I don't believe guilt is a tenet. For me, belief and acceptance removed guilt, not caused it. The difference, I guess, is that today I believe I have been forgiven for all my sins. Even the ones I will commit tomorrow.

There were days a long time ago that I might have agreed with you.


Zetaspeak

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 30, 2016, 08:25:36 PM
Interesting! I've always loved Still's analysis.

I have to say this guy literally made my head spin. When he said you can't reverse momentum in a month so let's just give all these states that might might be a weak blue or tied and trending Trump, well let's just give it t Trump because it won't change back in a month is just plain stupid especially when there's debates still out to do.

Hell when I first watched it I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe he did this before the debate when Trump was trending well the week before (still dumb to say but not as bad as it turned out). But then i looked at the date and it said SEPTEMBER 30! FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DEBATE! What a stupid thing to say as by Friday it was obvious the momentum shifted back to Clinton as she got a good spike in many of the top polls (and betting sites) by my average Hillary had a 3-point led before the debate and is currently almost doubled to a 5.5-point lead

The guy really is like the Noory of statistics here, he got a slant/show to do and sticking it and be damned of the current reality lol. It's one thing to be ignorant of the past, it one thing to be behind the curve of the future, but just to ignore the present and have a take that goes against what obviously happening this week is just mind-numbing.

Not sure if you can tell but bad statistic takes drive me up the wall  ;D Now if you really want to see me go crazy, tell me how great and credible online polls are  >:( When Trump talked about "winning online polls" I sure hope to god he just things everyone stupid and he can say that and hope people buy it as positive aspect. It's ironic he talked about 400-pound men with computers, umm Trump you do know those are the same people that are voting for you thousands of times by manipulating the online polls with with codes or  just lack of of a life.

Value Of Pi

"An anonymous source sent the New York Times documents showing that Donald Trump reported a nearly $1 billion loss on his 1995 tax returns -- which could have helped him avoid paying any federal income taxes for 18 years, the paper reported on Saturday.

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-tax-records-new-york-times-229012#ixzz4LtcoYyya

Man, is he ever smart. Boy is he smart. Smart, smart, smart.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 01, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
I have to say this guy literally made my head spin. When he said you can't reverse momentum in a month so let's just give all these states that might might be a weak blue or tied and trending Trump, well let's just give it t Trump because it won't change back in a month is just plain stupid especially when there's debates still out to do.

Hell when I first watched it I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe he did this before the debate when Trump was trending well the week before (still dumb to say but not as bad as it turned out). But then i looked at the date and it said SEPTEMBER 30! FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DEBATE! What a stupid thing to say as by Friday it was obvious the momentum shifted back to Clinton as she got a good spike in many of the top polls (and betting sites) by my average Hillary had a 3-point led before the debate and is currently almost doubled to a 5.5-point lead

The guy really is like the Noory of statistics here, he got a slant/show to do and sticking it and be damned of the current reality lol. It's one thing to be ignorant of the past, it one thing to be behind the curve of the future, but just to ignore the present and have a take that goes against what obviously happening this week is just mind-numbing.

Not sure if you can tell but bad statistic takes drive me up the wall  ;D Now if you really want to see me go crazy, tell me how great and credible online polls are  >:( When Trump talked about "winning online polls" I sure hope to god he just things everyone stupid and he can say that and hope people buy it as positive aspect. It's ironic he talked about 400-pound men with computers, umm Trump you do know those are the same people that are voting for you thousands of times by manipulating the online polls with with codes or  just lack of of a life.

I can't speak to the accuracy of his number vs. yours or others but I've always thought that most polling is inherently flawed, skewed, etc. and I doubt many of them could even be called scientific by any means. What most people overlook are the details of who they asked and how fair, accurate and relevant the questions being asked are. However, I was speaking more about his documentary on the history of money and his analysis of The Wizard of Oz.

Designx

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 01, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
I have to say this guy literally made my head spin. When he said you can't reverse momentum in a month so let's just give all these states that might might be a weak blue or tied and trending Trump, well let's just give it t Trump because it won't change back in a month is just plain stupid especially when there's debates still out to do.

Hell when I first watched it I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe he did this before the debate when Trump was trending well the week before (still dumb to say but not as bad as it turned out). But then i looked at the date and it said SEPTEMBER 30! FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DEBATE! What a stupid thing to say as by Friday it was obvious the momentum shifted back to Clinton as she got a good spike in many of the top polls (and betting sites) by my average Hillary had a 3-point led before the debate and is currently almost doubled to a 5.5-point lead

The guy really is like the Noory of statistics here, he got a slant/show to do and sticking it and be damned of the current reality lol. It's one thing to be ignorant of the past, it one thing to be behind the curve of the future, but just to ignore the present and have a take that goes against what obviously happening this week is just mind-numbing.

Not sure if you can tell but bad statistic takes drive me up the wall  ;D Now if you really want to see me go crazy, tell me how great and credible online polls are  >:( When Trump talked about "winning online polls" I sure hope to god he just things everyone stupid and he can say that and hope people buy it as positive aspect. It's ironic he talked about 400-pound men with computers, umm Trump you do know those are the same people that are voting for you thousands of times by manipulating the online polls with with codes or  just lack of of a life.

I was going to say the same thing. Clinton has the momentum now and will probably carry it to the election unless Assange really has something damning on Clinton. I don't think Trump ever was really very close to having the electoral college votes. In this day and age the democrats have a good lock on the college with needing at least three light blue states to go the republican's way to even give them a chance. With the 916m loss in 95 coming out on Trump's tax records allowing him to skip paying taxes for a number of years it's all going to be quite negative for him here on to the election.

Quote from: Designx on October 01, 2016, 10:45:24 PM
With the 916m loss in 95 coming out on Trump's tax records allowing him to skip paying taxes for a number of years it's all going to be quite negative for him here on to the election.

"I talk to myself, because I have a good brain"

              Donald J. Trump

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 01, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ.  He is the only person in history that appears to be worthy of emulation.

I'm with you except for the divine part because I'm an agnostic, which means I don't entirely reject the idea, either. However, I'd still like to know what happened during the almost two decades he was off the grid. For all we know, he was wallowing drunkenly in the fleshpots of his era's counterparts to Tijuana, Bangkok, and Branson.

QuoteMost fundamentalists would have huge problems with some of my beliefs.  I believe in reincarnation for example.  I have a huge problem with the idea of a permanent Hell.


That puts you way ahead of most fundamentalists, although you might not want to mention that to them.

analog kid

Quote from: Value Of Pi on October 01, 2016, 08:51:30 PM
"An anonymous source sent the New York Times documents showing that Donald Trump reported a nearly $1 billion loss on his 1995 tax returns -- which could have helped him avoid paying any federal income taxes for 18 years, the paper reported on Saturday.

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-tax-records-new-york-times-229012#ixzz4LtcoYyya

Man, is he ever smart. Boy is he smart. Smart, smart, smart.

Our taxes have been paying for his casinos for twenty years. Meanwhile his tax plan is a giveaway to himself.

Lt.Uhura

I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to leak his taxes.  It certainly seems as if it was someone who had full access to his tax information. They only leaked three pages from one year to provide such dramatic insight into his tax status. Maximum damage from a minimum of information.  An IRS employee?  A hacker?

Times reporter Susanne Craig received the documents, which the paper describes as “three pages from what appeared to be Mr. Trump’s 1995 tax returns,” in the mail from an unknown source. The documents were sent last month and postmarked New York City, with a return address of Trump Tower -- the real estate mogul’s headquarters.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-tax-records-new-york-times-229012#ixzz4LuSzAmUV

starrmtn001

Full Speech: Donald Trump Holds Rally in Manheim, PA 10/1/16.

https://youtu.be/HyR7Yu-mn5M

Lt.Uhura

This WP article from September 21st seemed to suggest yesterday's bombshell disclosure.  There is an informative Q&A from tax experts and former IRS employees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/09/21/this-is-why-donald-trumps-tax-returns-havent-been-leaked/

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on October 02, 2016, 01:04:20 AM
This WP article from September 21st seemed to suggest yesterday's bombshell disclosure.  There is an informative Q&A from tax experts and former IRS employees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/09/21/this-is-why-donald-trumps-tax-returns-havent-been-leaked/

Good article, thanks. My first thought is that the leaker would be someone who managed to get unauthorized access, not a hacker necessarily but maybe someone who got into the files somehow. Trump himself must keep copies of his returns, on paper or on a PC.

Value Of Pi

On further reflection, maybe his housekeeper (Miss Housekeeping?) did it. Tired of getiing called names.

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