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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

albrecht

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 08:23:26 PM
Trump would have admired Pinochet.  Two evil power hungry psychopaths.
You mean the guy Kissinger supported, you know the Kissinger who was a Clinton mentor and friend and fellow CFR member? So funny the tortuous logic of the left! Now the war mongers and Cold Warriors are the good guys! (Note the rightwing source below!)
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB437/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/hillary-clinton-kissinger-vacation-dominican-republic-de-la-renta

136 or 142

David Harvey ‏@davidharvey  2h2 hours ago
Trump will get a loan from a Mexican bank & hire Mexican workers to build the wall. Then he won't pay the workers & default on the loan.

Jon Favreau ‏@jonfavs  2h2 hours ago
Classic bully: Trump was too weak and cowardly to deliver say any of this to the Mexican president. Real tough behind his podium, though.

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2016, 08:31:38 PM
You mean the guy Kissinger supported, you know the Kissinger who was a Clinton mentor and friend and fellow CFR member? So funny the tortuous logic of the left! Now the war mongers and Cold Warriors are the good guys! (Note the rightwing source below!)
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB437/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/hillary-clinton-kissinger-vacation-dominican-republic-de-la-renta

Yes, and the guy Trump would have supported.  It's hard to determine Trump's views on anything because he's so incoherent, but he seems to be every bit as much of a neo-conservative as the Republicans he complains about.  He lied that he opposed the Iraq War and the military action against Gadhafi.

Given that it's clear Trump is a power mad authoritarian and given the U.S's position in the world, it's hard to see him govern as an authoritarian isolationist.

albrecht

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 08:34:03 PM
David Harvey ‏@davidharvey  2h2 hours ago
Trump will get a loan from a Mexican bank & hire Mexican workers to build the wall. Then he won't pay the workers & default on the loan.
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That would be awesome, and hilarious, if he did that!  :) I think it would be a bit mean to the workers, if they were legal Mexicans working on the project with proper VISAs and tax id no they should be paid.

albrecht

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 08:35:51 PM
Yes, and the guy Trump would have supported.  It's hard to determine Trump's views on anything because he's so incoherent, but he seems to be every bit as much of a neo-conservative as the Republicans he complains about.  He lied that he opposed the Iraq War and the military action against Gadhafi.
Maybe, the neo-cons main things, fundamental, is always about Russia and Israel. If this means taking on Arabs or Muslims or various forays into South America etc so be it. Trump, on the other hand, as you leftist claims has some kind of allegiance of contact with Russia so, even if tangentially true, can't be a neo-con. He also is focued on our borders (neo-cons never did this but often support immigration and even illegal immigration though are very strong on OTHER countries' borders- like Isreal, countries adjacent to Russia or Russian-proxies.) Trump has even go so far as to say we could have friendly relations with Russia and NATO countries 'paying their due' (again hated ideas by the Neo-Cons.) Hillary is way more Neo-Con than Trump, which is why certain Republicans, much  of Wall St, and foreign billionaires support her.

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2016, 08:41:47 PM
Maybe, the neo-cons main things, fundamental, is always about Russia and Israel. If this means taking on Arabs or Muslims or various forays into South America etc so be it. Trump, on the other hand, as you leftist claims has some kind of allegiance of contact with Russia so, even if tangentially true, can't be a neo-con. He also is focued on our borders (neo-cons never did this but often support immigration and even illegal immigration though are very strong on OTHER countries' borders- like Isreal, countries adjacent to Russia or Russian-proxies.) Trump has even go so far as to say we could have friendly relations with Russia and NATO countries 'paying their due' (again hated ideas by the Neo-Cons.) Hillary is way more Neo-Con than Trump, which is why certain Republicans, much  of Wall St, and foreign billionaires support her.

I think the main thing about neo-conservatives is their willingness to use military power to achieve foreign policy aims, as well as using domestic spying to achieve homeland security aims. Those are what I was referring to.

I agree that Trump seems to love Putin, but I don't think that has anything to do with ideology, as much as Trump admires fellow authoritarian psychopaths.

Donald Noory

Don't Trumptards understand that there aren't enough angry white people out there to get Trump elected? Sorry fellas, the math just doesn't add up. The electorate has changed to such a degree that it just isn't possible. Remember this on election day when you lose. Bwahahahaha.

albrecht

Quote from: Donald Noory on August 31, 2016, 08:47:49 PM
Don't Trumptards understand that there aren't enough angry white people out there to get Trump elected? Sorry fellas, the math just doesn't add up. The electorate has changed to such a degree that it just isn't possible. Remember this on election day when you lose. Bwahahahaha.
I think you are likely correct but a lot of odd wild cards have been thrown in the deck this time. The future of the country was determined in '65 and it has been just a relatively slow spiral down the bowel since with some times of hope. There could be, I say could, be a significant number of people who stay home or even cross-over voters for whatever reason that formerly voted for Obama; due to white guilt, being a part of history, anybody but Bush, or due to his race (blacks are the most single-focused voting bloc and almost exclusively vote on racial lines) and are disillusioned or just a certain segment of the electorate who likes reality tv and 'bling.' Heck I'll even take those votes if it keeps Billary out. And one can't eliminate the possibility of some Electors voting for the good of the country, even over the popular vote if it came to it in some States. Rare but possible in some places. It is a whacks race with both Parties putting up candidates with so many negatives.

albrecht

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/entertainment/leonardo-dicaprio-clinton-fundraiser/index.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/leonardo-dicaprio-urged-to-repay-donations-tied-to-massive-malay/
Personally considering the eye-candy I would take DiCaprio's Foundations apparent corruption over the Clinton's (though the Epstein parties might be fun- only with the few legal age 'traveling companions', of course.)

mikuthing01

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2016, 08:54:56 PM
There could be, I say could, be a significant number of people who stay home or even cross-over voters for whatever reason that formerly voted for Obama; due to white guilt, being a part of history

A friend of mine recently admitted to me he voted for Obama twice. He's not a liberal by a long shot he's racist and homophobic and a gun owner. It was the first elections he ever voted in and he does not follow politics i think the media and his g/f pushed him into it. He hates Obama now though after his gun banning schemes so he will either not vote for vote for Trump.

I remember after the elections in 2008 asking me who i voted for and i told him Ron Paul. He looked at me confused because he thought never heard his name only Obama and McCain. I remember him being happy about it like his football team just won and was gloating about it because he picked the winner. He's not so happy about his little football team win anymore now that his health insurance skyrocketed and the dindu tried to take his guns lol

136 or 142

Quote from: albrecht on August 31, 2016, 09:11:03 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/entertainment/leonardo-dicaprio-clinton-fundraiser/index.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/leonardo-dicaprio-urged-to-repay-donations-tied-to-massive-malay/
Personally considering the eye-candy I would take DiCaprio's Foundations apparent corruption over the Clinton's (though the Epstein parties might be fun- only with the few legal age 'traveling companions', of course.)

The accusations of Donald Trump and Epstein committing rape may go to trial.

136 or 142

Quote from: mikuthing01 on August 31, 2016, 09:16:29 PM
A friend of mine recently admitted to me he voted for Obama twice. He's not a liberal by a long shot he's racist and homophobic and a gun owner. It was the first elections he ever voted in and he does not follow politics i think the media and his g/f pushed him into it. He hates Obama now though after his gun banning schemes so he will either not vote for vote for Trump.

I remember after the elections in 2008 asking me who i voted for and i told him Ron Paul. He looked at me confused because he thought never heard his name only Obama and McCain. I remember him being happy about it like his football team just won and was gloating about it because he picked the winner. He's not so happy about his little football team win anymore now that his health insurance skyrocketed and the dindu tried to take his guns lol

For most people health insurance costs have increased at a lower rate post the Affordable Care Act than before it.  Also, Obama did not ban any guns.  Quit trolling.

136 or 142

Good series of articles on how bad the Free Trade investor dispute settlement panels are:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrishamby/super-court?utm_term=.hv0w03rLj#.tnaeJK52N

Let's face it.  Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton both stink to high heaven.  Trump is of questionable character and Hillary's a crook.  That said, the Supreme Court and our rights are at stake.  A Clinton presidency jeopardizes our rights as Americans.  I have no idea if Trump will do what he says he is going to do if he gets the chance to appoint justices to the court.  I can only hope but I know what Hillary will do.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 09:25:45 PM
For most people health insurance costs have increased at a lower rate post the Affordable Care Act than before it.  Also, Obama did not ban any guns.  Quit trolling.

Obamacare is in it's death throws. Most private insurance companies are pulling out of it. The "Affordable"  Health Care Act? What a joke!  LOL. We're paying more now for a lot less coverage.  It's been a "yuuuuge" disaster.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 31, 2016, 09:26:38 PM
Let's face it.  Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton both stink to high heaven.  Trump is of questionable character and Hillary's a crook.  That said, the Supreme Court and our rights are at stake.  A Clinton presidency jeopardizes our rights as Americans.  I have no idea if Trump will do what he says he is going to do if he gets the chance to appoint justices to the court.  I can only hope but I know what Hillary will do.

Trump is one million times the crook that Hillary Clinton is.


136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 31, 2016, 09:30:24 PM
Obamacare is in it's death throws. Most private insurance companies are pulling out of it.  As for the "Affordable"  Health Care, what a joke.  We're paying more now for a lot less coverage.  It's been a "yuuuuge" disaster.

Only in rural areas and small towns/cities.  Most people report they're better off with it than before it. 

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 09:30:49 PM
Trump is one million times the crook that Hillary Clinton is.

That is one person's opinion and you have a right to it.  You're wrong but you have that right.



Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 09:32:06 PM
Only in rural areas and small towns/cities.  Most people report they're better off with it than before it.

Bullshit.  I'm talking from my own personal experience.  Prices have skyrocketed.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 31, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
That is one person's opinion and you have a right to it.  You're wrong but you have that right.

Actually, it's the opinion of nearly everybody with an I.Q over, say, 80.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 31, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
Bullshit.  I'm talking from my own personal experience.  Prices have skyrocketed.


And I'm talking about the aggregate numbers that have been released.

136,  I leave you to ponder your inconsequential political views.  I've got to run.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 31, 2016, 09:35:49 PM
136,  I leave you to ponder your inconsequential political views.  I've got to run.

I was responding to your political views.

mikuthing01

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 09:33:14 PM
That was part of general sanctions against Russia, as the story said.

He cried because he failed multiple times getting "assault weapons" banned here so he banned them from import. Funny part was he thought Molot was part of Kalashnikov Concern and they were not so we still get Veprs  ;D


136 or 142

Quote from: mikuthing01 on August 31, 2016, 09:37:11 PM
He cried because he failed multiple times getting "assault weapons" banned here so he banned them from import. Funny part was he thought Molot was part of Kalashnikov Concern and they were not so we still get Veprs  ;D


Doubtful.  You can still buy semi-automatic weapons and whatever other dangerous toys you stupid little children like buying that you have neither the maturity nor the intelligence to handle safely.

But hey, you're idiot hero Trump will make the whole world great again for you.  Because you're too stupid to start making it great by yourself.

mikuthing01

Quote from: 136 or 142 on August 31, 2016, 09:38:53 PM
Doubtful.  You can still buy semi-automatic weapons and whatever other dangerous toys you stupid little children like buying.

Well America sucked at building AK's because we don't have the tooling to make forged trunnions so we casted them HUGE No-No (the dont hold up). Even shitty Romanian WASR 10's were better than any AK we could make. Russian Saiga's were cheap and well made with forged trunnions and CHF chrome lined barrels. Now that they are banned we can only get Bulgarian, Romanian, Serb/Yugo AK's and that pretty much killed the AK market. Because Bulgarians are expensive Romanians are crude and Yugo's are ugly and use non standard furniture.

But now America is starting to forge trunnions and bolts and carriers so we will probably have some pretty decent AK's but they will cost out the ass. Gone are the days of a $250 Saiga thanks to the dindu king

136 or 142

Quote from: mikuthing01 on August 31, 2016, 09:52:04 PM
Well America sucked at building AK's because we don't have the tooling to make forged trunnions so we casted them HUGE No-No (the dont hold up). Even shitty Romanian WASR 10's were better than any AK we could make. Russian Saiga's were cheap and well made with forged trunnions and CHF chrome lined barrels. Now that they are banned we can only get Bulgarian, Romanian, Serb/Yugo AK's and that pretty much killed the AK market. Because Bulgarians are expensive Romanians are crude and Yugo's are ugly and use non standard furniture.

But now America is starting to forge trunnions and bolts and carriers so we will probably have some pretty decent AK's but they will cost out the ass. Gone are the days of a $250 Saiga thanks to the dindu king

Darn, such a shame.

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