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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

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Quote from: Jackstar on February 18, 2016, 08:03:07 PM
That's the thingy on his cute little hat. What's the thingy on the wall between them?

I hadn't noticed that. Yep, skull and crossbones. Not unusual for the Catholics and Orthodox to go with macabre imagery.


GravitySucks

Quote from: Jackstar on February 18, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
Look, I'm not going to lie--I'm not really clear on the difference between Catholicism and Christianity. There, I said it.
I guess you would need to understand the Protestant Reformation.

A simple explanation would be Christians are Christian by their belief and faith in Jesus Christ as their savior. A Catholic is a Catholic by baptism, usually as an infant. There are Catholics that are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic.

albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on February 18, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
Look, I'm not going to lie--I'm not really clear on the difference between Catholicism and Christianity. There, I said it.
Geez, as Norry might say, there is catholic and Catholic most, not all, Christians believe in the catholic church but not the situation with the "big C" and it has been a source of many schisms, fighting, doctrinal parsings and study, and intrigue. Even whole Reformations, and Byzantine stuff, as a real thing and as the current usage, various affairs. I have whole volumes just on the internal goings-on during the Reformation and that is just internal between them (hint: they against Popery but can't agree between them!) The Catholic/Christian thing? I guess, generally, Catholics are Christian but, to some Christians, they are misguided, or worse, and he is the anti-Christ.
FTP WATP.  ;)

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 18, 2016, 08:47:06 PM
I guess you would need to understand the Protestant Reformation.

A simple explanation would be Christians are Christian by their belief and faith in Jesus Christ as their savior. A Catholic is a Catholic by baptism, usually as an infant. There are Catholics that are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic.

;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI2AGFKhlYw

Lena

Quote from: Jackstar on February 18, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
Look, I'm not going to lie--I'm not really clear on the difference between Catholicism and Christianity. There, I said it.
Catholics are supposed to regard the Pope as Gods messenger on earth, and as heir of apostle St. Peter, who is infallible.

Protestants are basically people conned by their local lord who wanted the pope out of their hair, the rest if fluff. It's the capitalist/globalist version of Christianity, make it easier for the upper class to exploit people.

Orthodox Christians (Russia, Greece, Eastern Church): Papal Infallibility is rejected. Priests can marry before ordination.

There are many more different things of course. A very complex issue. Look up E Michael Jones on Youtube.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 18, 2016, 06:59:25 PM

When I was a kid, the Catholic Church owned half of the buildings in downtown Chicago. I wonder if that has changed

Edit: looks like the archdiocese if Chicago still has a net worth of over $2 billion (using the value they payed for the properties, nit what they are worth today. Some were purchased 100 years ago). Makes me question the numbers used above.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-2015/The-State-of-the-Archdiocese/
Each Catholic diocese is an independent financial entity with the bishop as the responsible party, as a CEO.  The Pope/Vatican has no ownership or responsibility.  The net worth of the Chicago Archdiocese, or any other in the US, has no bearing on the Vatican's worth.  As for valuation, most of the school properties on the West and South Sides are 50+ years old and couldn't be given away today.  Many are closed due to safety codes, not to mention their lovely neighborhoods.

Quote from: Lena on February 18, 2016, 09:03:06 PM
Catholics are supposed to regard the Pope as Gods messenger on earth, and as heir of apostle St. Peter, who is infallible.

Protestants are basically people conned by their local lord who wanted the pope out of their hair, the rest if fluff. It's the capitalist/globalist version of Christianity, make it easier for the upper class to exploit people.

Orthodox Christians (Russia, Greece, Eastern Church): Papal Infallibility is rejected. Priests can marry before ordination.

There are many more different things of course. A very complex issue. Look up E Michael Jones on Youtube.

If what you say were fact then neither Protestant or Catholic would be Christian.

Quote from: MV on February 18, 2016, 10:21:04 AM
what you really are saying is the establishment is telling you they hate cruz more than trump, and that, i think, should tell you something.

No, he has the record to back my statement up.  He's fought McConnell tooth and nail since he was elected Senator. Provide evidence to the contrary and maybe you will convert me.  So far, such evidence is lacking. 

I respect you, MV, and we will probably both end up supporting Trump in the general if he is the nominee but Cruz is the man who will bring the Constitution back to the fore. I firmly believe this.

GravitySucks

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 19, 2016, 12:16:17 AM
No, he has the record to back my statement up.  He's fought McConnell tooth and nail since he was elected Senator. Provide evidence to the contrary and maybe you will convert me.  So far, such evidence is lacking. 

I respect you, MV, and we will probably both end up supporting Trump in the general if he is the nominee but Cruz is the man who will bring the Constitution back to the fore. I firmly believe this.

My biggest problem with Cruz is his lack of experience managing anything. You can be smart as all get out, but if you can't hire/fire and make management decisions and stand behind those decisions, your ideals are only ideals. I agree he has stood by his ideals in the Senate. I have troubles believing a one term senator would understand what it takes to be President. Trump has the advantage in executive decision making. By far. I voted for Cruz for Senate. And I would again. I'm still wavering between him and Trump though. I think Trump may end up getting my vote.

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 19, 2016, 12:23:11 AM
My biggest problem with Cruz is his lack of experience managing anything. You can be smart as all get out, but if you can't hire/fire and make management decisions and stand behind those decisions, your ideals are only ideals. I agree he has stood by his ideals in the Senate. I have troubles believing a one term senator would understand what it takes to be President. Trump has the advantage in executive decision making. By far. I voted for Cruz for Senate. And I would again. I'm still wavering between him and Trump though. I think Trump may end up getting my vote.

I agree with you.  I would have preferred that Cruz had served in the Senate until he was 50 before running for President.  Senators don't exactly make good presidents, e.g. Obama. However, Kennedy was a young Senator when he ran for President so who knows.

Well, the Pope has decided to infuse himself into our Election.  That is not a way to attract new followers to Catholicism.  He is undoubtedly causing more Catholics to leave the fold. The Pope is a dumb ass.  There, I said it.

No surprise here. Also of interest, note that Trump -- AKA Mr. Militaristic -- gave more to the Clintons over the years than vets:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/donald-trump-s-trolls-unleash-hell-on-veterans.html

WOTR

Quote from: FightTheFuture on February 19, 2016, 12:52:13 AM
No surprise here. Also of interest, note that Trump -- AKA Mr. Militaristic -- gave more to the Clintons over the years than vets:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/donald-trump-s-trolls-unleash-hell-on-veterans.html
Who cares?  The important thing is that he pays lip-service to service men and women.  Having him raise the issue is worth millions in advertising that he would usually charge for.  As a matter of fact, I hope that some of these veterans charities write him a tax receipt for his valuable contribution of bringing up the cause during political debates.  The rules of free enterprise would seem to dictate that he should be able to earn tax credits while earning votes by paying lip-service to vets.

Yorkshire pud

This piss take is in this weeks Private Eye; A satirical magazine in the UK that rips the piss out all politicians, and those who wish to be...I thought it quite funny.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on February 19, 2016, 04:56:26 AM
This piss take is in this weeks Private Eye; A satirical magazine in the UK that rips the piss out all politicians, and those who wish to be...I thought it quite funny.

Thanks YP!  I'm guessing 23 stone is kinda like Falkie?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 19, 2016, 06:12:58 AM
Thanks YP!  I'm guessing 23 stone is kinda like Falkie?

Almost in his bracket: 322 pounds.

Neal Boortz on Trump's NYC condo.

" I was there and it looks like  a bordello."

Pictures please, Neal.

Lena

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBfz0NurrVA
Trump will audit the Fed, according to his former adviser Roger Stone


albrecht

Quote from: Lena on February 19, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBfz0NurrVA
Trump will audit the Fed, according to his former adviser Roger Stone
He might want to consider revoking the SS protection and hire some professional mercenary outfits for his protection.


GravitySucks

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 19, 2016, 03:59:58 PM
That is a bit tasteless, VQ.  I just ate my supper.

More than a bit tasteless in my opinion.


Quote from: VoteQuimby on February 19, 2016, 04:04:16 PM
Why?

I really don't want to watch a video where the President gets his brains splattered.  Show a bit more class.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 19, 2016, 04:07:57 PM
I really don't want to watch a video where the President gets his brains splattered.  Show a bit more class.

::) I don't really care what your interpretation of class is.

GravitySucks

Quote from: VoteQuimby on February 19, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
::) I don't really care what your interpretation of class is.

Really doesn't matter... Check the rules.  No Death pictures.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on February 19, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
::) I don't really care what your interpretation of class is.

You're familiar with good taste, aren't you?  Show some.

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 19, 2016, 04:11:02 PM
Really doesn't matter... Check the rules.  No Death pictures.

::) so what about all the other GIFs on here? That's what you're going to come at me with? Jesus.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 19, 2016, 04:11:22 PM
You're familiar with good taste, aren't you?  Show some.

This is so fucking dumb I don't even know where to begin. So people getting hit by buses and dying horrifyingly funny ways is cool but illustrating a moment in history of what happened to the last President who got interested in the Fed is bad? Grow up.

GravitySucks

Quote from: VoteQuimby on February 19, 2016, 04:12:40 PM
::) so what about all the other GIFs on here? That's what you're going to come at me with? Jesus.

I'm not Jesus.

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