President Donald J. Trump

[Dr. MD MD]

Ludwig Von Mises and the Mises Institute actually have little in common.  Von Mises was a member of the Austrian School, but was a fairly respected though rather obscure relatively mainstream economist.  I've asked a couple economists why the loony libertarians chose Von Mises to worship and they both told me it's one of the things that economists consider to be truly bizarre.

Can you say what's loony about them? 

[136 or 142]

Can you say what's loony about them? 

Worshiping Von Mises when he didn't actually back up their arguments for one.

[Dr. MD MD]

Worshiping Von Mises for one.

Well, that's not very helpful to those not familiar. Can you not articulate your thoughts about libertarians? 

[136 or 142]

Well, that's not very helpful to those not familiar. Can you not articulate your thoughts about libertarians? 

Loony libertarians =/ all libertarians are loony.

[Spy]

Anthony Scaramucci's vulgar New Yorker interview is beyond words

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/27/anthony-scaramuccis-new-yorker-interview-is-beyond-words/?utm_term=.8b01aa50b675

Anthony Scaramucci Called Me to Unload About White House Leakers, Reince Priebus, and Steve Bannon

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/anthony-scaramucci-called-me-to-unload-about-white-house-leakers-reince-priebus-and-steve-bannon

[Dr. MD MD]

Loony libertarians =/ all libertarians are loony.

A tautology. That and ad hominem insults are all you're capable of. You can't say why you think they're loony because you know you're full of shit and don't really know what you're talking about.  :

[136 or 142]

A tautology. That and ad hominem insults are all you're capable of. You can't say why you think they're loony because you know you're full of shit and don't really know what you're talking about.  :

You asked for my why I thought libertarians are loony and I replied that I didn't think most libertarians are loony.

1.If you don't think that it's loony to worship a person who doesn't actually back up your views,  I don't know what would be loony then.

2.For libertarians who are libertarians because of economic issues: the Gold Standard is loony (I've written on that on bellgab previously), loony libertarians have no solutions to market failures and the idea that externalities (one example of market failure) can be solved by treating it as a property rights issue in the courts is either loony or an outright lie.

Loony libertarians also reject the Keynesian notion that governments should address recessions, but should just 'let the market solve itself.'  That may or may not be loony by itself, but it's hardly a practical solution to the tens of millions of people who suffer through a recession.  These people are essentially more concerned with useless abstract principles than real life human problems.

As to my alleged use of Ad Homs, 1.you're hardly one to complain about that, 2.Call a Waaaaaaaaaaaaambulance, snowflake.

[Dr. MD MD]

You asked for my why I thought libertarians are loony and I replied that I didn't think most libertarians are loony.

1.If you don't think that it's loony to worship a person who doesn't actually back up your views,  I don't know what would be loony then.

2.For libertarians who are libertarians because of economic issues: the Gold Standard is loony (I've written on that on bellgab previously), loony libertarians have no solutions to market failures and the idea that externalities (one example of market failure) can be solved treating it as a property rights issue in the courts is either loony or an outright lie.

As to my alleged use of Ad Homs, 1.you're hardly one to complain about that, 2.Call a Waaaaaaaaaaaaambulance, snowflake.

Still, no real answer. You just keep repeating the word loony. Seriously, that's your strategy?! 

Also Libertarianism isn't a religion, you stupid tit.  : 

[136 or 142]

Still, no real answer. You just keep repeating the word loony. Seriously, that's your strategy?! 

Also Libertarianism isn't a religion, you stupid tit.  : 

If you were familiar with the concepts, you'd understand my reply.  That you don't is not my problem and it's not my job to explain them to you.  If I did, I suspect you'd be among the first to complain about my lengthy posts.

[Dr. MD MD]

If you were familiar with the concepts, you'd understand my reply.  That you don't is not my problem and it's not my job to explain them to you.  If I did, I suspect you'd be among the first to complain about my lengthy posts.

Oh, I understand the concepts. I just wanted to point out to everyone here that you don't. 

[136 or 142]

Oh, I understand the concepts. I just wanted to point out to everyone here that you don't. 

I doubt that as I don't believe you understand much of anything.

Here is a site with a partial explanation though I doubt you'll understand any of it either.  Still, it's from rationalwiki, so it's good and snarky.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Austrian_school

From the article:
"The issue with Austrian economists, and libertarianism in general, has always been their sense of 'outcome ambivalence'. They don't believe in "public goods." They don't believe in nations (even their own). What they do believe in is a set of rules. Whatever happens to us because of those rules is irrelevant to them and is seen as part of 'le grand experiment'."

Which is a more generalized way of saying what I wrote about the loony libertarian views on recessions.  Of course, I don't necessarily agree with them on their views on libertarianism in general.  A lot of libertarians are just 'let me smoke pot' or 'don't tax me' types.  Maybe cranky, but not necessary loony.

[chefist]

Wow, 136 is back from it's self imposed exile of Hill's embarrassing loss...will Donald Noory return next? Stay tuned...

[136 or 142]

Wow, 136 is back from it's self imposed exile of Hill's embarrassing loss...will Donald Noory return next? Stay tuned...

I've posted here for around 1 month I think after Hillary Clinton was defeated.  Then I briefly came back three or so months ago but I think I was temporarily banned from posting over something, so I left again.

I also left here for several months prior to the 2016 election.  Like several people here I come and go depending on what else I'm doing.

[136 or 142]

I suspect 'Dr' M.D M.D has left here to look up 'externalities' and 'market failures' so he can falsely claim he knew what those terms are and the concepts behind them all along.

[3OctaveFart]

No of course not.  It was the same fruits and nuts that now reside in CA only now a great many of them have undergone gender reassignment.

Risk-takers and dreamers, not conservatives, blazed the trail to the West.

You can tell when P*B gets really hot and bothered that he'll let fly a gay slur. I don't care either way, but it's funny to watch.

[Kidnostad3]

You asked for my why I thought libertarians are loony and I replied that I didn't think most libertarians are loony.

1.If you don't think that it's loony to worship a person who doesn't actually back up your views,  I don't know what would be loony then.

2.For libertarians who are libertarians because of economic issues: the Gold Standard is loony (I've written on that on bellgab previously), loony libertarians have no solutions to market failures and the idea that externalities (one example of market failure) can be solved by treating it as a property rights issue in the courts is either loony or an outright lie.

Loony libertarians also reject the Keynesian notion that governments should address recessions, but should just 'let the market solve itself.'  That may or may not be loony by itself, but it's hardly a practical solution to the tens of millions of people who suffer through a recession.  These people are essentially more concerned with useless abstract principles than real life human problems.

As to my alleged use of Ad Homs, 1.you're hardly one to complain about that, 2.Call a Waaaaaaaaaaaaambulance, snowflake.

So how do you gauge degrees of suffering and how would you prevent or mitigate a recession. 

[Kidnostad3]

I've posted here for around 1 month I think after Hillary Clinton was defeated.  Then I briefly came back three or so months ago but I think I was temporarily banned from posting over something, so I left again.

I also left here for several months prior to the 2016 election.  Like several people here I come and go depending on what else I'm doing.

Uh huh. 

[Kidnostad3]

Wow, 136 is back from it's self imposed exile of Hill's embarrassing loss...will Donald Noory return next? Stay tuned...

Isn't Donald Noory the one who is obsessed with and collects female feces or is that another freak who frequents BelGab?  It's hard to keep them straight. 

[PB the Deplorable]

The WH threatens an entire state via it's senator to remove beneficial arrangements already agreed, because the senator refuses to vote in favour of a motion that: a) has no framework b) had no debate c) would likely be detrimental to her constituents and that's just 'politics'. It's bullying.

Call it whatever you want, its how votes get lined up.

I really wish our politicians were as cordial and reasonable as yours, that all votes were based on commons sense the way they are in the UK, that the bureaucrats here were as helpful and efficient as those in the UK, but we aren't quite there yet.  Based on your Pollyanna posts, we're not even close.

[PB the Deplorable]

So just let people die? And kids who are born with illness die too? Hey, that's the land of the free.

You ought to get a job with the Fake News Media.  No really - you have an aptitude for it

[Dr. MD MD]

I doubt that as I don't believe you understand much of anything.

Here is a site with a partial explanation though I doubt you'll understand any of it either.  Still, it's from rationalwiki, so it's good and snarky.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Austrian_school

From the article:
"The issue with Austrian economists, and libertarianism in general, has always been their sense of 'outcome ambivalence'. They don't believe in "public goods." They don't believe in nations (even their own). What they do believe in is a set of rules. Whatever happens to us because of those rules is irrelevant to them and is seen as part of 'le grand experiment'."

Which is a more generalized way of saying what I wrote about the loony libertarian views on recessions.  Of course, I don't necessarily agree with them on their views on libertarianism in general.  A lot of libertarians are just 'let me smoke pot' or 'don't tax me' types.  Maybe cranky, but not necessary loony.

Wow! You can cut and paste. Impressive! You still can't seem to simply form and organize your own thoughts on the subject though...or probably any subject. :

[PaulAtreides]

The picture of male virility.

No, it's a picture of tidy whities and thread bare gym shorts. 

[Kidnostad3]

Risk-takers and dreamers, not conservatives, blazed the trail to the West.

You can tell when P*B gets really hot and bothered that he'll let fly a gay slur. I don't care either way, but it's funny to watch.

They may have been risk-takers and dreamers but most were rock-ribbed Christians and, as imperfect as they were, they put a lot of stock in honesty, independence and self reliance, all of which are foreign concepts to leftists.

[21st Century Man]

Isn't Donald Noory the one who is obsessed with and collects female feces or is that another freak who frequents BelGab?  It's hard to keep them straight.

That was gnooryblows.  Donald Noory is a leftist nutjob sort of like Meister.  Cardmember of the IWW and gives blowjobs to Karl Marx's ghost.

[136 or 142]

Wow! You can cut and paste. Impressive! You still can't seem to simply form and organize your own thoughts on the subject..or probably any subject. :

You spent most of last night pasting stupid memes. 

[PaulAtreides]

The WH threatens an entire state via it's senator to remove beneficial arrangements already agreed, because the senator refuses to vote in favour of a motion that: a) has no framework b) had no debate c) would likely be detrimental to her constituents and that's just 'politics'. It's bullying.

It's not really bullying because no one in the Senate is afraid of Trump.  Or the obscene rants of Mooch.

[PB the Deplorable]

Actually no. The USA has consistently had more expensive health care than the rest of the civilised world for decades. A long time before ACA. Because the insurance companies decide the cost. The pharma companies decide the cost. The GOP position is no gov intervention so in a free market economy, no-one can stop the costs rising, because to do so smacks of communism, right?

Sitting in Yorkshire, Pud knows what's best for us.  Better than the people who deal with life here every day.  He knows someone in Georgia and someone else in SF from home who support what he reads in the UK Fake News Media.  I'm sure instead of knee-jerk reactions and simply assuming what they knew from growing up in England is best, they've taken the time to understood their new home and have carefully weighed the issues before insisting they know what's best here as well.

Never mind that Pud's ideas are ideological, and he has zero first hand experience.  Perhaps some day he'll respond to a request regarding why he has so much faith in government officials and bureaucrats, and so little in a free market economy and individual companies.  Perhaps he could start with all the inventions the government has been involved with, and all the industries and companies (and jobs) it's built, vs that of individuals in the free market.

[Dr. MD MD]

That was gnooryblows.  Donald Noory is a leftist nutjob sort of like Meister.  Cardmember of the IWW and gives blowjobs to Karl Marx's ghost.

They all seem to fit the same psychological profile: Angry, hysterical, irrational and humorless.

[136 or 142]

So how do you gauge degrees of suffering and how would you prevent or mitigate a recession.

Why do I need to gauge degrees of suffering? 

Mitigating a recession is done by implementing the pump priming policies of Keynes: lower interest rates and increase government spending.  Of course, this isn't so easy in the United States anyway given that the debt is so high and interest rates are already very low.  However, that is a problem for a future recession.

Preventing a recession is done through adopting policies that address long run growth by adding to productive capacity, but that is a much longer discussion.

[Kidnostad3]

That was gnooryblows.  Donald Noory is a leftist nutjob sort of like Meister.  Cardmember of the IWW and gives blowjobs to Karl Marx's ghost.

Okay, I remember now.  Thanks.