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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Kidnostad3

Quote from: ItsOver on February 07, 2017, 04:28:58 PM
;D

A results oriented person would ask how has the Dept. of Educ. Improved the quality of education in this country?  When that person learns that the quality has markedly declined he would ask why the department continues to exist at the taxpayers expense?

I have a friend who was a SES who spent the better part of his career at Educ.  Although he would not go so far as to advocate its dissolution, he did say that it has not fulfilled the goals set forth in its mission statement.  Of course he argues that this failure is due to political meddling and other negative influences.  When I asked him what would happen If the duties and responsibilities reverted to the states he could only answer in generalities.

To me it's a a simple matter of the proof of the pudding and the pudding really sucks.  Maybe the new Secretary has been specifically chosen to oversee the disestablishment of the department.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 08, 2017, 08:16:29 AM
No, I stick with reason, none of which you've ever displayed.  :D

Of course you do son....of course you do.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Justin has two cars now on February 08, 2017, 09:00:25 AM
Of course you do son....of course you do.

Couldn't think of a good comeback again? Sucks to be you!  ;D

albrecht

"(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Meister_000

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 08, 2017, 06:05:50 AM
Perhaps you can tell us . . .perhaps you can diagram-out the trend of quality education . . .
I have designed and executed world-class best-of-breed educational systems, methods, and materials. I am part of the solution. An extreme end-run is almost manditory to get you past (by leaping over) the BS of both left and right -- but even-then it's still a long haul. The point is to git-er-done despite the obstacles, to put yourself in the game, be self-initiating, contribute, truely do the best you can do (=120%), but most importantly to *care enough* in the first place. Some white men _can_ jump. Can you?

Aim high:
The Fluid Dynamics of Spitting: How Archerfish Use Physics to Hunt With Their Spit
https://www.wired.com/2013/11/archerfish-physics/

SciFiAuthor

And the economic engine continues to ramp up as Trump runs around picking the low-hanging economic growth no-brainer fruit that Obama completely missed.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/trump-meets-intel-ceo-brian-krzanich.html

You know, guys, you can bitch and piss and moan all you want in the frenzy of liberal butthurt you're wallowing in. But the fact is, Barack Obama did this to you through a thoroughly inept presidency. A president must do more than just cook up thousands of regulations. He must proactively promote a profitable business environment. He did not, and a shit load of unemployed or under employed people voted for change and the blue wall fell.

Meister_000

Mother Jones cover for March/April 2017


SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 08, 2017, 10:26:01 AM
I have designed and executed world-class best-of-breed educational systems, methods, and materials.

Wow, you're a big deal. You must have many fine leather bound volumes in your library that smells of rich mahogany. Can I get you a foo foo drink with a little umbrella in it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBfXTyzaUfQ

chefist

Good to see Intel completing Fab 42 here in Chandler, AZ. It is an absolutely huge, new factory that was mothballed due to Obama's regulations.

3000 new jobs coming to the area...Intel CEO says Trump's policies are the reason why they are completing the factory and hiring.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 10:43:27 AM
Good to see Intel completing Fab 42 here in Chandler, AZ. It is an absolutely huge, new factory that was mothballed due to Obama's regulations.

3000 new jobs coming to the area...Intel CEO says Trump's policies are the reason why they are completing the factory and hiring.

Heartless. You're just a heartless earth-hating Trumper bastard. You'll poison the planet with unacceptable amounts of silicon just to create 3000 jobs. And, no doubt, the Russians are involved and Bannon will get all of Intel's profits for next year.

chefist

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 08, 2017, 10:51:46 AM
Heartless. You're just a heartless earth-hating Trumper bastard. You'll poison the planet with unacceptable amounts of silicon just to create 3000 jobs. And, no doubt, the Russians are involved and Bannon will get all of Intel's profits for next year.

...and your point is?

Meister_000

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 08, 2017, 10:35:51 AM
Wow, you're a big deal. You must have many fine leather bound volumes in your library that smells of rich mahogany.

Mahogany (smell)?   Mildew, is the smell more commonly associated with such (sooner or later).

Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 10:43:27 AM
Good to see Intel completing Fab 42 here in Chandler, AZ. It is an absolutely huge, new factory that was mothballed due to Obama's regulations.

3000 new jobs coming to the area...Intel CEO says Trump's policies are the reason why they are completing the factory and hiring.

Do you have a quote from the Intel CEO about that? According to these articles, Intel built the factory during a downturn in PC sales and made a business decision to keep it idle until its production was needed. The Arizona Republic quotes Obama as having nothing but praise for the plant, and says nothing about it being closed because of excessive regulations. If there's evidence to the contrary, that apply to this factory in particular, please post it.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/intel-closes-az-chip-factory-before-it-even-opens/

http://archive.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/20140113intel-says-factory-stay-shut-now.html

chefist

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 08, 2017, 11:02:36 AM
Do you have a quote from the Intel CEO about that? According to these articles, Intel built the factory during a downturn in PC sales and made a business decision to keep it idle until its production was needed. The Arizona Republic quotes Obama as having nothing but praise for the plant, and says nothing about it being closed because of excessive regulations. If there's evidence to the contrary, that apply to this factory in particular, please post it.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/intel-closes-az-chip-factory-before-it-even-opens/

http://archive.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/20140113intel-says-factory-stay-shut-now.html

He just said that in a statement from the oval office 15 minutes ago.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/trump-meets-intel-ceo-brian-krzanich.html

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 10:53:17 AM
...and your point is?

I don't need one. All I need is a trigger and some rage.

chefist

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 08, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
I don't need one. All I need is a trigger and some rage.

And salty tears.

SciFiAuthor

Just a heads up for the triggered. There may be more winning in the near future. I'm sure Putin and Bannon set it all up and are keeping the profits.

http://fortune.com/2017/02/08/sharp-foxconn-factory-trump/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 11:05:11 AM
He just said that in a statement from the oval office 15 minutes ago.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/trump-meets-intel-ceo-brian-krzanich.html

More winning! I'm sure the left will go even more nuts now.  ;D

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
And salty tears.

Can't, would violate the regulation against increasing earth's surface localized sodium chloride concentrations listed on page 2,435,072, paragraph 42, section 11, subsection 91 of the EPA's "guidelines for micromanaging everything" enacted by President Obama 40 minutes before he left office.


Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 11:05:11 AM
He just said that in a statement from the oval office 15 minutes ago.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/trump-meets-intel-ceo-brian-krzanich.html

That link doesn't mention anything about regulations, stifling or otherwise, but it does mention this bit about Bannon's former employer: "Intel has been criticized in conservative publications such as Breitbart, for laying off thousands of staffers, despite an influx of visa requests."

Brian Krzanich's statement from today doesn't mention anything about regulations delaying the plant.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-supports-american-innovation-7-billion-investment-next-generation-semiconductor-factory-arizona/

Did you read the Arizona Republic article?


chefist

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 08, 2017, 11:36:14 AM
That link doesn't mention anything about regulations, stifling or otherwise, but it does mention this bit about Bannon's former employer: "Intel has been criticized in conservative publications such as Breitbart, for laying off thousands of staffers, despite an influx of visa requests."

Brian Krzanich's statement from today doesn't mention anything about regulations delaying the plant.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-supports-american-innovation-7-billion-investment-next-generation-semiconductor-factory-arizona/

Did you read the Arizona Republic article?

Watch the statement and listen to what he says. It's quite clear.

Jump to 3:55

https://youtu.be/tZzFUmROFLY

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 08, 2017, 11:36:14 AM
That link doesn't mention anything about regulations, stifling or otherwise, but it does mention this bit about Bannon's former employer: "Intel has been criticized in conservative publications such as Breitbart, for laying off thousands of staffers, despite an influx of visa requests."

Brian Krzanich's statement from today doesn't mention anything about regulations delaying the plant.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-supports-american-innovation-7-billion-investment-next-generation-semiconductor-factory-arizona/

Did you read the Arizona Republic article?

If you'll take the 4 minutes to actually watch the vid you'll hear the words coming right out of his own mouth.  ;)

whoozit

What he actually says isn't important.  It is what the media tells you he said that is important. ;)

Quote from: Chefist on February 08, 2017, 11:39:45 AM
Watch the statement and listen to what he says. It's quite clear.

Jump to 3:55

https://youtu.be/tZzFUmROFLY

It sounds like he's talking about legal and regulatory issues in general and not the Chandler factory. Krzanich has been critical of the general regulatory environment for several years, but if you read the Arizona Republic article I linked, the decision to keep that plant idle for so long was a business decision and it was going to open regardless of who was president. I did you the courtesy of reading your evidence, so please return the favor.

whoozit

I read your articles and there is no quote from the company as to why the plant was never opened.  Only guesses from analysts saying a PC slump is suspected as the cause.  Not sure why you discount what the CEO said.

Edit:

I guess you are talking about waiting until they need 7nm chips and using existing factories to build their predecessors.  The reasons for that decision were never fully fleshed out, probably a business decision based on economic factors, regulation and what is the cheapest way to meet current needs.  Still doesn't discount what the CEO said.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 08, 2017, 11:49:52 AM
It sounds like he's talking about legal and regulatory issues in general and not the Chandler factory. Krzanich has been critical of the general regulatory environment for several years, but if you read the Arizona Republic article I linked, the decision to keep that plant idle for so long was a business decision and it was going to open regardless of who was president. I did you the courtesy of reading your evidence, so please return the favor.

Why are you so desperately looking for an out for Obama? Really, what did he do for you?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: whoozit on February 08, 2017, 11:58:03 AM
I read your articles and there is no quote from the company as to why the plant was never opened.  Only guesses from analysts saying a PC slump is suspected as the cause.  Not sure why you discount what the CEO said.

Because it doesn't fit in with his political agenda, obviously.  ::)

SciFiAuthor

I see we're moving from the blind rage-butthurt stage to the figure-out-ways-to-not-give-any-credit-to-Trump butthurt stage in the Never Trump grieving process. 

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