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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Yorkshire pud

Spicer's alternative facts aren't cutting the mustard... I think we can be forgiven for thinking that anything that comes out of the WH is a lie until proven otherwise.  ::)

http://theweek.com/speedreads/678654/sean-spicer-just-got-live-factchecked-by-cnns-communications-team

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on February 07, 2017, 03:40:09 PM
That's an easy bet for you to make, you're bald.  ;)      ;D


I wish! Quite the opposite, too long at the moment.  :(

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on February 07, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
Irrelevant.
You're deflecting & you missed the point.


You're right; that's only the reserve of the Trumpers.  :-[

albrecht

Damn buffering but CSPAN Radio playing the arguments in Wash St v Trump regarding to the Executive Action on visitor/refugees/immigrants from country's with so much terrorism. Some good questions but  9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which often skews very "liberal" and is also very overloaded which is interesting that this escalated so quickly. I saw a good op-ed in the WSJ the other talking about splitting up the 9th for better efficiency- it is waaay too large and is often at grid-lock (and the side-benefit or breaking up one of the often more leftist Courts.)

ps: I also saw some article that Washington, not California, is the real leader on the anti-Trump issues (which is sort of funny because like the country, WA is very divided politically and socially between the "Inland Empire" and the leftist coast.) Also makes the funny points that the left and Democrats might be able to accomplish what formerly the "nutjob" "rightwingers" "conservatives" wanted and are now defending State's Rights, and even like the "bad old days" secession and violence towards people and intimidation and terrorism, etc (well, I guess, technically it was Democrats back then who advocated that.) But still interesting.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on February 07, 2017, 02:22:13 PM
Take a look at the tenth plank and tell me if you see anything familiar.
http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html
>:(

I'd be willing to bet the Manifesto is never mentioned in today's education system.

I've read studied it. It's bullshit and not worth mentioning.  Well, maybe as a cautionary tale.

ItsOver

Quote from: albrecht on February 07, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
Damn buffering but CSPAN Radio playing the arguments in Wash St v Trump regarding to the Executive Action on visitor/refugees/immigrants from country's with so much terrorism. Some good questions but  9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals which often skews very "liberal" and is also very overloaded which is interesting that this escalated so quickly. I saw a good op-ed in the WSJ the other talking about splitting up the 9th for better efficiency- it is waaay too large and is often at grid-lock (and the side-benefit or breaking up one of the often more leftist Courts.)

ps: I also saw some article that Washington, not California, is the real leader on the anti-Trump issues (which is sort of funny because like the country, WA is very divided politically and socially between the "Inland Empire" and the leftist coast.) Also makes the funny points that the left and Democrats might be able to accomplish what formerly the "nutjob" "rightwingers" "conservatives" wanted and are now defending State's Rights, and even like the "bad old days" secession and violence towards people and intimidation and terrorism, etc (well, I guess, technically it was Democrats back then who advocated that.) But still interesting.
Ah, yes.  Washington state.  One of the places where the dreaded California locusta likes to invade and decimate.

http://www.rsir.com/blog/2015/09/evergreen-dreaming-californians-continue-to-flock-to-washington-state-rsir-brokers-offer-specialized-service/


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 07, 2017, 02:06:42 PM



What kind of qualifications do you need to disestablish the DOE?  All she needs to do is hang a sign on the door that says.  CLOSED BY POPULAR DEMAND

ItsOver

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 07, 2017, 04:27:32 PM

What kind of qualifications do you need to disestablish the DOE?  All she needs to do is hang a sign on the door that says.  CLOSED BY POPULAR DEMAND
;D

albrecht

Quote from: ItsOver on February 07, 2017, 04:27:26 PM
Ah, yes.  Washington state.  One of the places where the dreaded California locusta likes to invade and decimate.

http://www.rsir.com/blog/2015/09/evergreen-dreaming-californians-continue-to-flock-to-washington-state-rsir-brokers-offer-specialized-service/


We have a subset of the same species, California locusta, Texana, unfortunately over the past decades.

ItsOver

Quote from: albrecht on February 07, 2017, 04:32:15 PM
We have a subset of the same species, California locusta, Texana, unfortunately over the past decades.
Yes, they're quite the pest.  Persistent, destructive, and migratory.  Wreak havoc and destruction and then move on to the next victims.


Jackstar

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 07, 2017, 02:55:53 PM
Americans deserve leaders who are capable of disseminating accurate information to the public


I redpilled a nurse at my doctor's office today. I asked her the usual, and she responded with, "I thought he killed himself?"

I love being me. Seriously.

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on February 07, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
I also saw some article that Washington, not California, is the real leader on the anti-Trump issues (which is sort of funny

Seattle is the hub of all corruption on the West Coast north of Lima.

I've been drinking raw eggs every morning for months.

starrmtn001

President Trump: ‘I Can’t Believe’ We Have To Fight In Court To Protect Nation | NBC News.  2.7.17.

https://youtu.be/O5O9w-MWeq8


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 07, 2017, 05:03:09 PM
President Trump: ‘I Can’t Believe’ We Have To Fight In Court To Protect Nation | NBC News.  2.7.17.



He isn't; he's fighting in court to establish if the EO written by President Bannon is actually lawful. Trump facts are not facts...You should know that by now; why don't you?  ::)

starrmtn001

LIVE Stream: Senate VOTE on Confirmation of Jeff Sessions for Attorney General (2/7/2017).

https://youtu.be/7OM_K-UXg1Q

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 07, 2017, 01:02:08 PM
Thanks for info, RGG.  Maybe something needs to be done about the committees that set the curriculum.  Perhaps the governors should have a say about who gets on the committees.  Definitely something that needs to be looked into.  I'm not saying there is an easy solution but something needs to be done.  I don't envy the job that you had to do.

The only way curriculum committees will succeed is if the members can put aside their political, religious, and philosophical differences and agree on the best way to teach children the essential skills they'll need later in life. That starts with putting an emphasis on literacy and reading skills, and basic math, which shouldn't be controversial. Science and history will always be a problem because differences in religion and politics will always influence them. I doubt those issues will ever be completely resolved.

Putting state governors in charge of selection members of curriculum committees is a really bad idea any way you cut it, though. Unfortunately, any selection process is going to meet vehement opposition from one quarter or another, and I don't see an easy solution to that.

starrmtn001

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 07, 2017, 05:24:14 PM
LIVE Stream: Senate VOTE on Confirmation of Jeff Sessions for Attorney General (2/7/2017).

https://youtu.be/7OM_K-UXg1Q
OMG!  Can't believe what the Democrap circus clowns are trying to do now.  Just, wow. ::)

Don't ask what.  Go see for yourself.  It's STILL going on.

albrecht

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 07, 2017, 05:32:22 PM
The only way curriculum committees will succeed is if the members can put aside their political, religious, and philosophical differences and agree on the best way to teach children the essential skills they'll need later in life. That starts with putting an emphasis on literacy and reading skills, and basic math, which shouldn't be controversial. Science and history will always be a problem because differences in religion and politics will always influence them. I doubt those issues will ever be completely resolved.

Putting state governors in charge of selection members of curriculum committees is a really bad idea any way you cut it, though. Unfortunately, any selection process is going to meet vehement opposition from one quarter or another, and I don't see an easy solution to that.
I think there could be some "common-core," (ha see what I did there,) standards on a State or National level but it is better thing to allow independent school districts, states, etc operate their school systems. Experiment with different options, funding, methods, and ideas (totally public, charters, home-schooling, vouchers, one room school houses, prep schools, private, parochial, vocational, military, etc.) A 'top-down' solution, like in many things, is likely not a solution- especially in a country so large, so diverse, and becoming even more diverse and therefore fractured. Also a more independent system would, possibly, save the whole where as if the "central planning" system fails than everybody fails. And the various States, localities, schools, etc could learn by, and from, each other as to what system works. Certain things, could be agreed upon, or mandated- say civics with our Founding Documents and laws taught. Though these, of course, could be taught in different perspectives but source documents. The Western Canon, logic, rhetoric, grammar, math, science, history, etc should be taught but people could have different methods on how, and when/age, etc? Second languages (or more, likewise.) But the DOE mandating/controlling, or funding, it all would be a bad idea, I think.

albrecht

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 07, 2017, 06:11:27 PM
OMG!  Can't believe what the Democrap circus clowns are trying to do now.  Just, wow. ::)

Don't ask what.  Go see for yourself.  It's STILL going on.
I can't believe you can still watch. I listened, a bit, to the 'fake Indian' Warren when she came on, but only because the legal questioning was over for the Washington v Trump immigration/refugee thing and CSPAN radio switched over, it was pitiful but a bit amusing. I think I even heard some fake tears! But stopped to watch hockey because getting so ridiculous.

starrmtn001

Quote from: albrecht on February 07, 2017, 06:31:12 PM
I can't believe you can still watch. I listened, a bit, to the 'fake Indian' Warren when she came on, but only because the legal questioning was over for the Washington v Trump immigration/refugee thing and CSPAN radio switched over, it was pitiful but a bit amusing. I think I even heard some fake tears! But stopped to watch hockey because getting so ridiculous.

I know, right?  It's like watching a train wreck.  Ya wanna look away, but ya can't.

It appears the Democraps are trying to parse Rule 19 to death.  I missed the part when PokeHer Hontus was on the floor.

starrmtn001

One of the senators just said, other countries' parliaments sometimes wind up throwing chairs and punches at each other.  We are flirting with doing just that. 

WW Smackdown DC style.  YIKES!

albrecht

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 07, 2017, 06:44:33 PM
I know, right?  It's like watching a train wreck.  Ya wanna look away, but ya can't.

It appears the Democraps are trying to parse Rule 19 to death.  I missed the part when PokeHer Hontus was on the floor.
She was upset when some rules of parliamentary procedure and/or Senate rule was invoked that precluded her from reading some tripe.

albrecht

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 07, 2017, 06:54:45 PM
One of the senators just said, other countries' parliaments sometimes wind up throwing chairs and punches at each other.  We are flirting with doing just that. 

WW Smackdown DC style.  YIKES!
Worse has been done before here, of course. And look where it led?  :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: Jackstar© on February 07, 2017, 04:47:33 PM

I redpilled a nurse at my doctor's office today. I asked her the usual, and she responded with, "I thought he killed himself?"

I love being me. Seriously.

It's good to hear you're under the care of a doctor, Jackstar. I hope you were able to get your meds refilled.  ;)

Lt.Uhura

 I have a great compromise solution for the ongoing ACA repeal/repeal delay issue:

Repeal the ACA in the Red States as soon as possible. Let us know how it's working out in about 90 days, if successful, roll it out..

Win-Win!

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 07, 2017, 07:35:48 PM
I have a great compromise solution for the ongoing ACA repeal/repeal delay issue:

Repeal the ACA in the Red States as soon as possible. Let us know how it's working out in about 90 days, if successful, roll it out..

Win-Win!
A win-win. When that Hydrocodone and Oxy withdrawl gets going the illegals and their cartels will be there to fulfill the demand instantly! More seriously though I don't see why they kick all, well much of it always is, to the States and let them experiment. Sure there will be hardship: what, life is supposed to be free and easy? But maybe new ideas or methods of management and delivery would result? Our country is very big and very diverse. Why treat it like there is only one solution for every problem or decision? I'm not saying, like the Leftists, to break it up or secession of certain States but, maybe, some devolution or, like originally intended? Certain things, taken care of on a national basis but other left to individuals, States, Counties, cities, churches, communities, etc? Hell most of Europe and the world have small, functioning (or semi-functioning) countries. Why couldn't California, or Texas, or even Vermont or RI manage themselves more?

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: albrecht on February 07, 2017, 07:46:38 PM
A win-win. When that Hydrocodone and Oxy withdrawl gets going the illegals and their cartels will be there to fulfill the demand instantly! More seriously though I don't see why they kick all, well much of it always is, to the States and let them experiment. Sure there will be hardship: what, life is supposed to be free and easy? But maybe new ideas or methods of management and delivery would result? Our country is very big and very diverse. Why treat it like there is only one solution for every problem or decision? I'm not saying, like the Leftists, to break it up or secession of certain States but, maybe, some devolution or, like originally intended? Certain things, taken care of on a national basis but other left to individuals, States, Counties, cities, churches, communities, etc? Hell most of Europe and the world have small, functioning (or semi-functioning) countries. Why couldn't California, or Texas, or even Vermont or RI manage themselves more?
It's hard to believe the R critics of 'OBAMAcare' don't have an alternative in place. They've had 6 years to work on it, WTH? I suspect the hold up might have to do with a$$uring the insurance companies and Big Pharma their profit margins won't take a hit.

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 07, 2017, 07:52:08 PM
It's hard to believe the R critics of 'OBAMAcare' don't have an alternative in place. They've had 6 years to work on it, WTH? I suspect the hold up might have to do with a$$uring the insurance companies and Big Pharma their profit margins won't take a hit.
It really is amazing. But not surprising with politicians, most of whom (at least these days) focus on crazy non-existent issues, in both Parties for different reasons, on this stuff (example: all the tranny and BLTYQ stuff and lockerrooms, bathrooms, etc when even Obama's administration CDC survey said less than ~6% of population is one- and if you drive down to numbers that is high for those who 'self-identify' etc in the age groups in most questions.) ACA was almost written by the Insurance Industry and not even read by our great public servants when voted upon. Remember that. Again for various motivations, simple graft, ideas that a system that wouldn't work so something larger could be brought in, for reason to get around State regulation of Insurance Companies in general, etc. I have no genius solution(s) but clearly something needs to be done. I much prefer some system that is more efficient and takes out the profits, public and private and legal, and doesn't cause so much inflation or fraud in healthcare costs and provides appropriate coverage for people. But what? Experiment at the State level more, maybe? Like single-payer in some States, health savings plans or charitable deductions in others, more tele-medicine in others, tort reform, tax break incentives for good health and lifestyles, more 'sin-taxes,' more restrictions of the type of meals provided for free by schools and government programs, more sports and activity required in schools, etc? I imagine there will be no perfect system.

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